Re: [PHP] Re: Converting tables into forms
Bastien Koert wrote: > On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 8:53 AM, Bob McConnell wrote: >> From: Ashley Sheridan >> >>> On Tue, 2009-10-27 at 21:07 -0700, ben...@gmail.com wrote: >>> I am trying to take MySQL tables and use the table structure to >> create HTML/PHP forms in as few steps as possible for further development. I have a project that has hundreds of tables and requires hundreds of forms to be created and don't want to do so field by field by hand. On Tuesday, October 27, 2009, Allen McCabe >> wrote: > Please explain with much greater detail. > > On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 6:12 PM, ben...@gmail.com >> wrote: > Does anyone have a quick way of converting tables into forms? > >>> >>> There is still the issue of exactly what db fields will translate >> into. >>> Where is a good time to use radio buttons instead of select lists, or >>> checkboxes instead of select-multiple lists? What about text fields in >>> the db? Should they be textareas or text inputs? Do all the db fields >>> need to be translated as visible fields? Should you hide ID fields? >>> >>> There are so many questions, that you might be better off rolling your >>> own, as a one-size-fits-all will not always work for everyone. >> >> I have a feeling in the pit of my stomach that your project is going to >> create a support nightmare. Either you will have to hand code forms for >> each table, or find a framework that dynamically creates the forms from >> schema and create suitable maps for each form. In either case, it will >> take weeks or months to complete and be nearly impossible to maintain >> when tables are changed or added. >> >> If your solution requires you to create hundreds of forms, which could >> take months to code, you need to take another look at the problem. I >> don't believe you have thought it through very well. >> >> Bob McConnell >> >> -- >> PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) >> To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php >> >> > > symfony might be another option, but it will take you some time to > sort out the yaml config. > > Recent versions of symfony (at least >= 1.0) can create the schema.yml from an existing database structure or a .sql file. Cheers -- David Robley This building is so high, the elevator shows movies. Today is Sweetmorn, the 14th day of The Aftermath in the YOLD 3175. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Re: Converting tables into forms
Hi, > What are aiming to do that something like PHPMyAdmin doesn't do? Perhaps the forms are for users. And users being able to drop databases isn't my idea of a good time. And setting up and maintaining multiple database users is far too much work - I prefer not to provide the interface in the first place. -- Richard Heyes HTML5 graphing: RGraph - www.rgraph.net (updated 25th October) Lots of PHP and Javascript code - http://www.phpguru.org -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: [PHP] Re: Converting tables into forms
[snip]What are aiming to do that something like PHPMyAdmin doesn't do?[/snip] The OP never really answered this, but I don't think you can use PHPMyAdmin to automate the generation of forms from every table in a database. You could use the function I supplied in a loop to read each table and spit out a form (either write a file or do it on the fly) for those tables. The original intent of my function was to never have to worry about table structure ever again, just read the table info and generate a form on the fly. Never would a form have to be hard coded again. The basis for this script was begun 10 years ago, the one I provided to the list was last updated in 2006 as a generic handler that really needed much more work. It could be used as a stand-alone function or as part of a class. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Re: Converting tables into forms
Apologies for semi-hijacking, but I am confused. What are aiming to do that something like PHPMyAdmin doesn't do? 2009/10/28 ben...@gmail.com > Jay, > > What function do you have? Thanks to everyone for their feedback. > > Best, > > Ben > > On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 9:17 AM, Jay Blanchard >wrote: > > > [snip]If your solution requires you to create hundreds of forms, which > > could > > take months to code, you need to take another look at the problem. I > > don't believe you have thought it through very well.[/snip] > > > > Actually you could use the function I provided to do this on the fly or > > have the function write out a file for each table involved. > > >
Re: [PHP] Re: Converting tables into forms
Jay, What function do you have? Thanks to everyone for their feedback. Best, Ben On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 9:17 AM, Jay Blanchard wrote: > [snip]If your solution requires you to create hundreds of forms, which > could > take months to code, you need to take another look at the problem. I > don't believe you have thought it through very well.[/snip] > > Actually you could use the function I provided to do this on the fly or > have the function write out a file for each table involved. >
RE: [PHP] Re: Converting tables into forms
[snip]If your solution requires you to create hundreds of forms, which could take months to code, you need to take another look at the problem. I don't believe you have thought it through very well.[/snip] Actually you could use the function I provided to do this on the fly or have the function write out a file for each table involved. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Re: Converting tables into forms
On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 8:53 AM, Bob McConnell wrote: > From: Ashley Sheridan > >> On Tue, 2009-10-27 at 21:07 -0700, ben...@gmail.com wrote: >> >>> I am trying to take MySQL tables and use the table structure to > create >>> HTML/PHP forms in as few steps as possible for further development. I >>> have a project that has hundreds of tables and requires hundreds of >>> forms to be created and don't want to do so field by field by hand. >>> >>> On Tuesday, October 27, 2009, Allen McCabe > wrote: >>> > Please explain with much greater detail. >>> > >>> > On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 6:12 PM, ben...@gmail.com > wrote: >>> > Does anyone have a quick way of converting tables into forms? >>> > >> >> There is still the issue of exactly what db fields will translate > into. >> Where is a good time to use radio buttons instead of select lists, or >> checkboxes instead of select-multiple lists? What about text fields in >> the db? Should they be textareas or text inputs? Do all the db fields >> need to be translated as visible fields? Should you hide ID fields? >> >> There are so many questions, that you might be better off rolling your >> own, as a one-size-fits-all will not always work for everyone. > > I have a feeling in the pit of my stomach that your project is going to > create a support nightmare. Either you will have to hand code forms for > each table, or find a framework that dynamically creates the forms from > schema and create suitable maps for each form. In either case, it will > take weeks or months to complete and be nearly impossible to maintain > when tables are changed or added. > > If your solution requires you to create hundreds of forms, which could > take months to code, you need to take another look at the problem. I > don't believe you have thought it through very well. > > Bob McConnell > > -- > PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > > symfony might be another option, but it will take you some time to sort out the yaml config. -- Bastien Cat, the other other white meat -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: [PHP] Re: Converting tables into forms
From: Ashley Sheridan > On Tue, 2009-10-27 at 21:07 -0700, ben...@gmail.com wrote: > >> I am trying to take MySQL tables and use the table structure to create >> HTML/PHP forms in as few steps as possible for further development. I >> have a project that has hundreds of tables and requires hundreds of >> forms to be created and don't want to do so field by field by hand. >> >> On Tuesday, October 27, 2009, Allen McCabe wrote: >> > Please explain with much greater detail. >> > >> > On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 6:12 PM, ben...@gmail.com wrote: >> > Does anyone have a quick way of converting tables into forms? >> > > > There is still the issue of exactly what db fields will translate into. > Where is a good time to use radio buttons instead of select lists, or > checkboxes instead of select-multiple lists? What about text fields in > the db? Should they be textareas or text inputs? Do all the db fields > need to be translated as visible fields? Should you hide ID fields? > > There are so many questions, that you might be better off rolling your > own, as a one-size-fits-all will not always work for everyone. I have a feeling in the pit of my stomach that your project is going to create a support nightmare. Either you will have to hand code forms for each table, or find a framework that dynamically creates the forms from schema and create suitable maps for each form. In either case, it will take weeks or months to complete and be nearly impossible to maintain when tables are changed or added. If your solution requires you to create hundreds of forms, which could take months to code, you need to take another look at the problem. I don't believe you have thought it through very well. Bob McConnell -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] Re: Converting tables into forms
ben...@gmail.com wrote: > I am trying to take MySQL tables and use the table structure to create > HTML/PHP forms in as few steps as possible for further development. I > have a project that has hundreds of tables and requires hundreds of > forms to be created and don't want to do so field by field by hand. > > Thanks, > > Ben > > On Tuesday, October 27, 2009, Allen McCabe wrote: >> Please explain with much greater detail. >> >> On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 6:12 PM, ben...@gmail.com wrote: >> Does anyone have a quick way of converting tables into forms? Use the CakePHP framework. Run a script, type in your database info and it will scan all your tables and generate the forms and the list, update, delete code for each table. It should be fully functional then and you can tweak to your needs to add table relations etc. -- Thanks! -Shawn http://www.spidean.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Re: Converting tables into forms
On Tue, 2009-10-27 at 21:07 -0700, ben...@gmail.com wrote: > I am trying to take MySQL tables and use the table structure to create > HTML/PHP forms in as few steps as possible for further development. I > have a project that has hundreds of tables and requires hundreds of > forms to be created and don't want to do so field by field by hand. > > Thanks, > > Ben > > On Tuesday, October 27, 2009, Allen McCabe wrote: > > Please explain with much greater detail. > > > > On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 6:12 PM, ben...@gmail.com wrote: > > Does anyone have a quick way of converting tables into forms? > > > > -- > > ** > > The content of this e-mail message and any attachments are > > confidential and may be legally privileged, intended solely for the > > addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, be advised that any > > use, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this e-mail is > > strictly prohibited. If you receive this message in error, please > > notify the sender immediately by reply email and destroy the message > > and its attachments. > > * > > > > -- > > PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) > > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > > > > > > > > -- > ** > The content of this e-mail message and any attachments are > confidential and may be legally privileged, intended solely for the > addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, be advised that any > use, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this e-mail is > strictly prohibited. If you receive this message in error, please > notify the sender immediately by reply email and destroy the message > and its attachments. > * > There is still the issue of exactly what db fields will translate into. Where is a good time to use radio buttons instead of select lists, or checkboxes instead of select-multiple lists? What about text fields in the db? Should they be textareas or text inputs? Do all the db fields need to be translated as visible fields? Should you hide ID fields? There are so many questions, that you might be better off rolling your own, as a one-size-fits-all will not always work for everyone. Thanks, Ash http://www.ashleysheridan.co.uk
Re: [PHP] Re: Converting tables into forms
ben...@gmail.com wrote: I am trying to take MySQL tables and use the table structure to create HTML/PHP forms in as few steps as possible for further development. I have a project that has hundreds of tables and requires hundreds of forms to be created and don't want to do so field by field by hand. With hundreds of tables, if you don't find an existing solution that meets your needs, it sounds like it would be a good idea to design your own anyways. Cheers, Rob. -- http://www.interjinn.com Application and Templating Framework for PHP -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Re: Converting tables into forms
On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 2:37 PM, ben...@gmail.com wrote: > I am trying to take MySQL tables and use the table structure to create > HTML/PHP forms in as few steps as possible for further development. I > have a project that has hundreds of tables and requires hundreds of > forms to be created and don't want to do so field by field by hand. With a little coding, Zend_Form should do what you need. http://framework.zend.com/manual/en/zend.form.html Cheers, James -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] Re: Converting tables into forms
I am trying to take MySQL tables and use the table structure to create HTML/PHP forms in as few steps as possible for further development. I have a project that has hundreds of tables and requires hundreds of forms to be created and don't want to do so field by field by hand. Thanks, Ben On Tuesday, October 27, 2009, Allen McCabe wrote: > Please explain with much greater detail. > > On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 6:12 PM, ben...@gmail.com wrote: > Does anyone have a quick way of converting tables into forms? > > -- > ** > The content of this e-mail message and any attachments are > confidential and may be legally privileged, intended solely for the > addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, be advised that any > use, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this e-mail is > strictly prohibited. If you receive this message in error, please > notify the sender immediately by reply email and destroy the message > and its attachments. > * > > -- > PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > > > -- ** The content of this e-mail message and any attachments are confidential and may be legally privileged, intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, be advised that any use, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this e-mail is strictly prohibited. If you receive this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply email and destroy the message and its attachments. * -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
