Re: [PHP] Re: Generating CRUD code for normalized db
On Mar 13, 2013 1:52 PM, Ashley Sheridan a...@ashleysheridan.co.uk wrote: On Wed, 2013-03-13 at 19:24 +0100, Marco Behnke wrote: Am 13.03.13 12:57, schrieb Gary: ma...@behnke.biz wrote: Do us all a favor abnd stay away from open source if you do not honor the work us wannabes put into it. As I said before I wasn't aware you would feel that the cap fitted. If you do feel that, then perhaps instead of complaining at me for pointing it out, you would be better off employing that time increasing the quality of what you produce. So you said you tried Yii. But have you wasted some of your precious time trying out the extension that extends Yii in a way, that creating models and views with Gii get proper SELECT Boxes and stuff for relations? If I understood you correct, this is what you were looking for? At this point I don't think he's looking for an actual solution, but merely wants to moan about open source. OSS has flaws, of course, but even someone so narrow minded would have a hard time arguing in earnest that it suffered from too little choice and a lack of solutions to a problem. Thanks, Ash http://www.ashleysheridan.co.uk And isn't the point of OSS exactly that if it doesn't work for your needs, you enhance it? Whingeing about it seems a sure-fire way to not get any help.
[PHP] Re: Generating CRUD code for normalized db
On 3/13/2013 7:57 AM, Gary wrote: ma...@behnke.biz wrote: Do us all a favor abnd stay away from open source if you do not honor the work us wannabes put into it. As I said before I wasn't aware you would feel that the cap fitted. If you do feel that, then perhaps instead of complaining at me for pointing it out, you would be better off employing that time increasing the quality of what you produce. YOU ARE JUST NOT A NICE PERSON! Please go away until you learn to act like an adult. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Re: Generating CRUD code for normalized db
Am 13.03.13 12:57, schrieb Gary: ma...@behnke.biz wrote: Do us all a favor abnd stay away from open source if you do not honor the work us wannabes put into it. As I said before I wasn't aware you would feel that the cap fitted. If you do feel that, then perhaps instead of complaining at me for pointing it out, you would be better off employing that time increasing the quality of what you produce. So you said you tried Yii. But have you wasted some of your precious time trying out the extension that extends Yii in a way, that creating models and views with Gii get proper SELECT Boxes and stuff for relations? If I understood you correct, this is what you were looking for? -- Marco Behnke Dipl. Informatiker (FH), SAE Audio Engineer Diploma Zend Certified Engineer PHP 5.3 Tel.: 0174 / 9722336 e-Mail: ma...@behnke.biz Softwaretechnik Behnke Heinrich-Heine-Str. 7D 21218 Seevetal http://www.behnke.biz signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [PHP] Re: Generating CRUD code for normalized db
On Wed, 2013-03-13 at 19:24 +0100, Marco Behnke wrote: Am 13.03.13 12:57, schrieb Gary: ma...@behnke.biz wrote: Do us all a favor abnd stay away from open source if you do not honor the work us wannabes put into it. As I said before I wasn't aware you would feel that the cap fitted. If you do feel that, then perhaps instead of complaining at me for pointing it out, you would be better off employing that time increasing the quality of what you produce. So you said you tried Yii. But have you wasted some of your precious time trying out the extension that extends Yii in a way, that creating models and views with Gii get proper SELECT Boxes and stuff for relations? If I understood you correct, this is what you were looking for? At this point I don't think he's looking for an actual solution, but merely wants to moan about open source. OSS has flaws, of course, but even someone so narrow minded would have a hard time arguing in earnest that it suffered from too little choice and a lack of solutions to a problem. Thanks, Ash http://www.ashleysheridan.co.uk
Re: [PHP] Re: Generating CRUD code for normalized db
On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 2:55 PM, Ashley Sheridan a...@ashleysheridan.co.uk wrote: On Wed, 2013-03-13 at 19:24 +0100, Marco Behnke wrote: Am 13.03.13 12:57, schrieb Gary: ma...@behnke.biz wrote: Do us all a favor abnd stay away from open source if you do not honor the work us wannabes put into it. As I said before I wasn't aware you would feel that the cap fitted. If you do feel that, then perhaps instead of complaining at me for pointing it out, you would be better off employing that time increasing the quality of what you produce. So you said you tried Yii. But have you wasted some of your precious time trying out the extension that extends Yii in a way, that creating models and views with Gii get proper SELECT Boxes and stuff for relations? If I understood you correct, this is what you were looking for? At this point I don't think he's looking for an actual solution, but merely wants to moan about open source. OSS has flaws, of course, but even someone so narrow minded would have a hard time arguing in earnest that it suffered from too little choice and a lack of solutions to a problem. Thanks, Ash http://www.ashleysheridan.co.uk Two minutes with google got me this: http://www.codegravity.com/programming/orm-object-relational-mapping-frameworks-php It seems that propel ( http://www.propelorm.org/ ) and CoughPHP ( http://coughphp.com/ ) both offer code generation -- Bastien Cat, the other other white meat -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Re: Generating CRUD code for normalized db
Gary listgj-phpgene...@yahoo.co.uk hat am 11. März 2013 um 15:51 geschrieben: I and others have pointed you towards open source solutions, the fact you don't want to put any effort in to make them work for you is not because of the state of open source software. If you think that solutions are things which do not work, following precisely the instructions on those solutions' websites, then I feel sorry for you. I really feel sorry that I wasted my time and answered you request the first time. Do us all a favor abnd stay away from open source if you do not honor the work us wannabes put into it. -- Marco Behnke Dipl. Informatiker (FH), SAE Audio Engineer Diploma Zend Certified Engineer PHP 5.3 Tel.: 0174 / 9722336 e-Mail: ma...@behnke.biz Softwaretechnik Behnke Heinrich-Heine-Str. 7D 21218 Seevetal http://www.behnke.biz -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Re: Generating CRUD code for normalized db
Gary listgj-phpgene...@yahoo.co.uk hat am 11. März 2013 um 10:10 geschrieben: ma...@behnke.biz wrote: FLOW3 might be worth a look. TYPO3 with inline relational records. Seems to be in a similar state to yii as regards usability and documentation. = composer create-project --dev --keep-vcs typo3/flow-base-distribution Quickstart 2.0.0 [InvalidArgumentException] Could not find package typo3/flow-base-distribution with version 2.0.0. Works for me? Mysterious. If you simply need this relation crud stuff you can also check out PHP Maker :) -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Re: Generating CRUD code for normalized db
Gary listgj-phpgene...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Ashley Sheridan wrote: In any case, you could probably take something you like from another framework if you have the time/inclination/capability. I honestly think I am simply going to write the shit myself. The CRUD pages, I mean. I see no reason to keep searching for what, for me, is very very basic functionaility. The inadequacies of so much Free Open Source Shit never ceases to amaze me. Too many wannabes doing it who overestimate their own capabilities and have no clue what is really required in the real world. Well, you don't really help yourself with a reply like that to the very people helping you. I and others have pointed you towards open source solutions, the fact you don't want to put any effort in to make them work for you is not because of the state of open source software. Your behaviour though makes me less-inclined to offer help in the future. Thanks, Ash http://www.ashleysheridan.co.uk -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Re: Generating CRUD code for normalized db
On 3/11/2013 10:14 AM, Ashley Sheridan wrote: Gary listgj-phpgene...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Ashley Sheridan wrote: In any case, you could probably take something you like from another framework if you have the time/inclination/capability. I honestly think I am simply going to write the shit myself. The CRUD pages, I mean. I see no reason to keep searching for what, for me, is very very basic functionaility. The inadequacies of so much Free Open Source Shit never ceases to amaze me. Too many wannabes doing it who overestimate their own capabilities and have no clue what is really required in the real world. Well, you don't really help yourself with a reply like that to the very people helping you. I and others have pointed you towards open source solutions, the fact you don't want to put any effort in to make them work for you is not because of the state of open source software. Your behaviour though makes me less-inclined to offer help in the future. Thanks, Ash http://www.ashleysheridan.co.uk egg-zactly! With comments like these, why would he ever expect a 'courtesy' reply?? -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Re: Generating CRUD code for normalized db
If you don't appreciate Open Source solutions, why are you losing time on a Open Source Project Mailing List? Go pay (a lot) for a handholding framework and be happy =), just don't demotivate the ones who bring free software to reality, even if the free software is not as good as you would like. On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 11:51 AM, Gary listgj-phpgene...@yahoo.co.ukwrote: Ashley Sheridan wrote: Gary listgj-phpgene...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: The inadequacies of so much Free Open Source Shit never ceases to amaze me. Too many wannabes doing it who overestimate their own capabilities and have no clue what is really required in the real world. Well, you don't really help yourself with a reply like that to the very people helping you. I wasn't aware you would feel that the cap fitted. I and others have pointed you towards open source solutions, the fact you don't want to put any effort in to make them work for you is not because of the state of open source software. If you think that solutions are things which do not work, following precisely the instructions on those solutions' websites, then I feel sorry for you. -- GaryPlease do NOT send me 'courtesy' replies off-list. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] Re: Generating CRUD code for normalized db
Gary, Until I read this post of yours I never knew what CRUD stood for, let alone knew that such an acronym was even needed in the world. If you are complaining about not being able to find software written to handle Creating, Reading, Updating and Deleting data in a table or tables that works to your satisfaction, remember the adage you get what you pay for? On the other hand, why would you expect such basic software to be pre-written to your satisfaction? Have you ever known a programmer that was completely happy with someone else's software? And on the third hand, what kind of a programmer looks for such software? Haven't you already written your own CRUD lines yet? Perhaps you just need to begin this day over again and try to be nicer. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
