Re: [PHP] hiding php

2002-12-03 Thread Serge A.
 Because its better to have someone waste time trying known hacks for a
 platform I don't have than to have the same person not know the platform
and
 start spending time figuring out what it is right off the bat.


That will not work.. try the following:

telnet yourserve 80

and than type GET / HTTP1.0 and press Enter twice

You'll see the server response which will tell anybody that the server is
Apache and even the operation system it runs at.

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Serge



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Re: [PHP] hiding php

2002-12-03 Thread Dan Hardiker
Actually..

You can turn off header responses in both apache and php. Inside the
php.ini you will find:

[ expose_php = Off ]

In the ini-dist its even switched off by default.
In the apache httpd.conf file you can set the following:

[ ServerSignature On ]

I believe you may also find some help in mod_headers.

In short you can do alot with the configuration to mask what you are
running on what platform. If you are running FreeBSD you can even get it
to emulate the SYN packets (used for TCP operating system fingerprinting)
of alternative OS's (eg: Red Hat [why you would want people to think
you'd run RH, to I dont know] / Solaris).

Questions?

 Because its better to have someone waste time trying known hacks for a
 platform I don't have than to have the same person not know the
 platform and
 start spending time figuring out what it is right off the bat.

 That will not work.. try the following:

 telnet yourserve 80

 and than type GET / HTTP1.0 and press Enter twice

 You'll see the server response which will tell anybody that the server
 is Apache and even the operation system it runs at.


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RE: [PHP] hiding php

2002-12-03 Thread Ford, Mike [LSS]
 -Original Message-
 From: Larry Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: 03 December 2002 07:02
 
 Because its better to have someone waste time trying known hacks for a
 platform I don't have than to have the same person not know 
 the platform and
 start spending time figuring out what it is right off the bat.

Well, if you *really* wnat to get hem going, you could send .jsp and .cfm (and any 
others you can think of) through PHP as well!!

Cheers!

Mike

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RE: [PHP] hiding php

2002-12-03 Thread Dan Hardiker
 [Larry Brown]
 Because its better to have someone waste time trying known hacks for a
 platform I don't have than to have the same person not know
 the platform and
 start spending time figuring out what it is right off the bat.

 [Mike Ford]
 Well, if you *really* wnat to get hem going, you could send .jsp and
 .cfm (and any others you can think of) through PHP as well!!

If your gong down that road, you could use an arbitrary extension to pipe
through php so that at the simplist level (the URL) the technology isnt
misinformed (eg: .cfm as cold fusion), but at a blank completely, eg:

http://your-server.com/some.script

With .script being parsed by php, but the outside world not knowing what
technology you are using behind the scenes. Very simple, yet very
effective way of blindfolding the end user.


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[PHP] hiding php

2002-12-02 Thread Larry Brown
This should bump up my popularity here...can you run asp on apache?  The
reason I ask is that I understand you can use a php option to hide the fact
that you are running php.  This sounds like a good idea to keep people
guessing, but I also want to use .asp extensions and have them parsed for
the php tags.  I thought this would be nice if someone wanted to screw with
a site they wouldn't even be trying tools that would apply.  However, if you
can't run asp on apache nobody would be fooled.  Any thoughts?

Larry S. Brown
Dimension Networks, Inc.
(727) 723-8388




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RE: [PHP] hiding php

2002-12-02 Thread Peter Houchin
yes look around for sum thing like chilli soft from sun microsystems, but
it's not free.. i dunno if there is a free one..

 -Original Message-
 From: Larry Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, 3 December 2002 4:13 PM
 To: PHP List
 Subject: [PHP] hiding php


 This should bump up my popularity here...can you run asp on apache?  The
 reason I ask is that I understand you can use a php option to
 hide the fact
 that you are running php.  This sounds like a good idea to keep people
 guessing, but I also want to use .asp extensions and have them parsed for
 the php tags.  I thought this would be nice if someone wanted to
 screw with
 a site they wouldn't even be trying tools that would apply.
 However, if you
 can't run asp on apache nobody would be fooled.  Any thoughts?

 Larry S. Brown
 Dimension Networks, Inc.
 (727) 723-8388




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Re: [PHP] hiding php

2002-12-02 Thread Rasmus Lerdorf
So change your Apache server string to say IIS instead.  Why tell them you
are using Apache?

On Tue, 3 Dec 2002, Larry Brown wrote:

 This should bump up my popularity here...can you run asp on apache?  The
 reason I ask is that I understand you can use a php option to hide the fact
 that you are running php.  This sounds like a good idea to keep people
 guessing, but I also want to use .asp extensions and have them parsed for
 the php tags.  I thought this would be nice if someone wanted to screw with
 a site they wouldn't even be trying tools that would apply.  However, if you
 can't run asp on apache nobody would be fooled.  Any thoughts?

 Larry S. Brown
 Dimension Networks, Inc.
 (727) 723-8388




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Re: [PHP] hiding php

2002-12-02 Thread Justin French
Why not just make up an extension, like your initials (.lsb) or your
business name (.dim or .dni), and set-up apache to pipe all those files
through PHP...??

That way they'll have no clue at all (if used in conjunction with the hide
PHP stuff, etc etc).


Justin

on 03/12/02 4:13 PM, Larry Brown ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

 This should bump up my popularity here...can you run asp on apache?  The
 reason I ask is that I understand you can use a php option to hide the fact
 that you are running php.  This sounds like a good idea to keep people
 guessing, but I also want to use .asp extensions and have them parsed for
 the php tags.  I thought this would be nice if someone wanted to screw with
 a site they wouldn't even be trying tools that would apply.  However, if you
 can't run asp on apache nobody would be fooled.  Any thoughts?
 
 Larry S. Brown
 Dimension Networks, Inc.
 (727) 723-8388
 
 
 

Justin French

http://Indent.com.au
Web Development  
Graphic Design



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RE: [PHP] hiding php

2002-12-02 Thread Larry Brown
Because its better to have someone waste time trying known hacks for a
platform I don't have than to have the same person not know the platform and
start spending time figuring out what it is right off the bat.

Larry S. Brown
Dimension Networks, Inc.
(727) 723-8388

-Original Message-
From: Justin French [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2002 12:39 AM
To: Larry Brown; PHP List
Subject: Re: [PHP] hiding php

Why not just make up an extension, like your initials (.lsb) or your
business name (.dim or .dni), and set-up apache to pipe all those files
through PHP...??

That way they'll have no clue at all (if used in conjunction with the hide
PHP stuff, etc etc).


Justin

on 03/12/02 4:13 PM, Larry Brown ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

 This should bump up my popularity here...can you run asp on apache?  The
 reason I ask is that I understand you can use a php option to hide the
fact
 that you are running php.  This sounds like a good idea to keep people
 guessing, but I also want to use .asp extensions and have them parsed for
 the php tags.  I thought this would be nice if someone wanted to screw
with
 a site they wouldn't even be trying tools that would apply.  However, if
you
 can't run asp on apache nobody would be fooled.  Any thoughts?

 Larry S. Brown
 Dimension Networks, Inc.
 (727) 723-8388




Justin French

http://Indent.com.au
Web Development 
Graphic Design




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Re: [PHP] hiding php

2002-12-02 Thread Jason Wong
On Tuesday 03 December 2002 15:01, Larry Brown wrote:
 Because its better to have someone waste time trying known hacks for a
 platform I don't have than to have the same person not know the platform
 and start spending time figuring out what it is right off the bat.

In response to your original question, yes you can run asp on apache. 

google - asp apache would have told you the answer is less than 1 second.

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Re: [PHP] Hiding php Code

2001-03-01 Thread Rene Maldonado



That's the problem, I don't want the web server user or administrator to see
the code.

Rene


Kath wrote:

 You might be able to limit who the file is readable by to just the web
 server user.

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 From: "Rene Maldonado" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: "Lista PHP" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2001 4:02 PM
 Subject: [PHP] Hiding php Code

  Hi all, I need to hide the php code, on the server.
 
  I know that php is not compiled, so, is there a way to do this??
 
  Thanks
 
  Rene
 
 
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RE: [PHP] Hiding php Code

2001-03-01 Thread Hoover, Josh

If you don't want the admin or web server user to see your code, you may
want to consider Zend's Encode product
(http://www.zend.com/zend/products.php#encoder) which encodes your PHP code
for you.  BUT, this can be rather expensive (depending on your use) and you
probably still need your Administrator to install it for you, so I'm not
sure if this does you any good or not.

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 That's the problem, I don't want the web server user or 
 administrator to see
 the code.
 
 Rene



[PHP] hiding .php

2001-02-26 Thread MaD dUCK

hi,
i would like to set up a script "forum" such that you can call a url

http://www.server.com/forum/general

and it will php-parse forum and pass /general as PATH_INFO. it's easy
to get done as http://www.server.com/forum.php/general, but i would
like to disclose the script name for reasons of obscurity.

in fact, i would really like every request to be fed through something
like /index.php, where the actual relative URI of the site is passed
as PATH_INFO. so something of the form

http://www.server.com/url/to/a/page

would call /index.php with PATH_INFO=/url/to/a/page, and index.php
could take care of whatever needs to be done to display that
information. this can easily be done with a 404.php script, but i'd
much rather do it transparently without this sort of abuse of the 404
feature.

thanks,
martin

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Re: [PHP] hiding .php

2001-02-26 Thread MaD dUCK

also sprach Fredrik Arild Takle (on Mon, 26 Feb 2001 10:34:11PM +0100):
 did you get answers to your problem?

not from the list. but i found two solutions, both of which require
modification of httpd.conf, and both of which are ergo
apache-specific:

http://www.zend.com/tips/tips.php?id=145single=1
http://www.zend.com/tips/tips.php?id=147single=1

i will be using the first one because it provides greater flexibility.

martin

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