Re: [PHP] Alternative to phpMyAdmin

2001-07-16 Thread root

Yea, I do mean SSH. Oops.







On Saturday 14 July 2001 18:29, you wrote:
 You probably mean SSH tunnel, which is quite feasable--  Hank Marquardt
 posted this earlier to the list:

 --- BEGIN QUOTE ---

 Works just fine ... as does postgres --

 ssh -N -2 -f -C -c blowfish -L3306:yourdatabase.server.here:3306
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 or the other usual tricks work too ... like going through a firewall
 (fyi ... clear text on the *other* side of the firewall):

 ssh -N -2 -f -C -c blowfish -L3306:db_behind_thefirewall:3306
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 The only oddity is that you will have to use the local host *address*
 127.0.0.1 to connect from the mysql client as it normally looks for a
 local socket if you use 'localhost', so your connection will be:

 mysql -h 127.0.0.1

 for postgres examples, change the port numbers (3306) to 5432

 --- END QUOTE ---

 -Original Message-
 From: Evan Nemerson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2001 6:02 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [PHP] Alternative to phpMyAdmin


 What if you were to open an SSL tunnel to the DB host, then connect
 through
 that???

  like you said... as long as the database provider accepts connections
  from outside, you can administer it from anywhere.
 
  if the provider doesn't accept incoming connections, no amount of
  tools and software will work for you.
 
   -Original Message-
   From: Alexander Skwar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
   Subject: RE: [PHP] Alternative to phpMyAdmin
  
if you install mysql on a windoze machine then you can administer
ANY 
  
   mysql database going through the socket.
  
   Okay, for a development this may be fine, but I still fail to see
   how a tool that runs on your own computer (no matter if it's a
   Windows tool, or a Linux tool) can help you administer databases
   which are not on the same computer (unless the mysql database on the
  
   providers server can be contacted from any machine and not just from
  
   localhost).

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Re: [PHP] Alternative to phpMyAdmin

2001-07-14 Thread Evan Nemerson

What if you were to open an SSL tunnel to the DB host, then connect through 
that???

 like you said... as long as the database provider accepts
 connections from outside, you can administer it from anywhere.

 if the provider doesn't accept incoming connections, no amount
 of tools and software will work for you.

  -Original Message-
  From: Alexander Skwar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
  Subject: RE: [PHP] Alternative to phpMyAdmin
 
   if you install mysql on a windoze machine then you can administer ANY 
 
  mysql database going through the socket.
 
  Okay, for a development this may be fine, but I still fail to see how a
  tool that runs on your own computer (no matter if it's a Windows tool, or
  a Linux tool) can help you administer databases which are not on the same
  computer (unless the mysql database on the providers server can be
  contacted from any machine and not just from localhost).
 


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RE: [PHP] Alternative to phpMyAdmin

2001-07-14 Thread Matthew Loff


You probably mean SSH tunnel, which is quite feasable--  Hank Marquardt
posted this earlier to the list:

--- BEGIN QUOTE ---

Works just fine ... as does postgres --

ssh -N -2 -f -C -c blowfish -L3306:yourdatabase.server.here:3306
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

or the other usual tricks work too ... like going through a firewall
(fyi ... clear text on the *other* side of the firewall):

ssh -N -2 -f -C -c blowfish -L3306:db_behind_thefirewall:3306
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

The only oddity is that you will have to use the local host *address*
127.0.0.1 to connect from the mysql client as it normally looks for a
local socket if you use 'localhost', so your connection will be:

mysql -h 127.0.0.1

for postgres examples, change the port numbers (3306) to 5432

--- END QUOTE ---

-Original Message-
From: Evan Nemerson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2001 6:02 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [PHP] Alternative to phpMyAdmin


What if you were to open an SSL tunnel to the DB host, then connect
through 
that???

 like you said... as long as the database provider accepts connections 
 from outside, you can administer it from anywhere.

 if the provider doesn't accept incoming connections, no amount of 
 tools and software will work for you.

  -Original Message-
  From: Alexander Skwar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
  Subject: RE: [PHP] Alternative to phpMyAdmin
 
   if you install mysql on a windoze machine then you can administer 
   ANY 
 
  mysql database going through the socket.
 
  Okay, for a development this may be fine, but I still fail to see 
  how a tool that runs on your own computer (no matter if it's a 
  Windows tool, or a Linux tool) can help you administer databases 
  which are not on the same computer (unless the mysql database on the

  providers server can be contacted from any machine and not just from

  localhost).
 


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RE: [PHP] Alternative to phpMyAdmin

2001-07-13 Thread Steve Brett

if you install mysql on a windoze machine then you can administer ANY mysql
database going through the socket.

i do it all the time.


Steve

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 To: Matthew Loff
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 Subject: Re: [PHP] Alternative to phpMyAdmin
 
 
 So sprach »Matthew Loff« am 2001-07-12 um 14:07:16 -0400 :
  
  I second that recommendation-- MySQL-Front is downright excellent!
  
  http://www.mysqlfront.de/
 
 Well, but how is that going to work, if Steph wants to manage his
 databases on his providers server?
 
 Besides, mysqlfront is a Windows program...
 
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RE: [PHP] Alternative to phpMyAdmin

2001-07-13 Thread Alexander Skwar

 if you install mysql on a windoze machine then you can administer ANY  mysql 
database going through the socket.

Okay, for a development this may be fine, but I still fail to see how a tool that runs 
on your own computer (no matter if it's a Windows tool, or a Linux tool) can help you 
administer databases which are not on the same computer (unless the mysql database on 
the providers server can be contacted from any machine and not just from localhost).

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RE: [PHP] Alternative to phpMyAdmin

2001-07-13 Thread Steve Brett

i'm sorry but i seem to be completely missing your point.

mysql accepts incoming requests on a specific socket (can't remember which
one, but postgresql is 5432) and therefore where you are is not an issue.

i administer databases via a modem connection that sit on servers somewhere
in the states.
i install mysql and php in windows and then develop at home, then i update
the live db throught mysql-front.

Steve

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 Sent: 13 July 2001 10:15
 To: Steve Brett; Alexander Skwar; Matthew Loff; Steve Brett; 'Steph';
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 Subject: RE: [PHP] Alternative to phpMyAdmin
 
 
  if you install mysql on a windoze machine then you can 
 administer ANY  mysql database going through the socket.
 
 Okay, for a development this may be fine, but I still fail to 
 see how a tool that runs on your own computer (no matter if 
 it's a Windows tool, or a Linux tool) can help you administer 
 databases which are not on the same computer (unless the 
 mysql database on the providers server can be contacted from 
 any machine and not just from localhost).
 
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RE: [PHP] Alternative to phpMyAdmin

2001-07-13 Thread Alexander Skwar

 i'm sorry but i seem to be completely missing your point.
 
 mysql accepts incoming requests on a specific socket (can't remember 

You mean port, don't you?

 one, but postgresql is 5432) and therefore where you are is not an
 issue.

Well, the issue is, that normally, connects to mysql are NOT allowed from any 
arbitrary host.  Normally, in safe setups, network connections to mysql are not 
possible.  And if they are, you need to specify a ip from which connects are allowed.

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RE: [PHP] Alternative to phpMyAdmin

2001-07-13 Thread Alexander Skwar

 i'm sorry but i seem to be completely missing your point.

Yeah, seems like so :)

 
 mysql accepts incoming requests on a specific socket (can't remember 

You mean port, don't you?

 one, but postgresql is 5432) and therefore where you are is not an
 issue.

Well, the issue is, that normally, connects to mysql are NOT allowed from any 
arbitrary host.  Normally, in safe setups, network connections to mysql are not 
possible.  And if they are, you need to specify a ip from which connects are allowed.

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Re: [PHP] Alternative to phpMyAdmin

2001-07-13 Thread Steve Brett

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 Sent: 13 July 2001 10:57

 To: Steve Brett; Alexander Skwar; Steve Brett; Matthew Loff; Steve

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  i'm sorry but i seem to be completely missing your point.

 

  mysql accepts incoming requests on a specific socket (can't

 remember



 You mean port, don't you?



i do indeed. gess who's psending most of his time at the minute socket
programming :-)

  one, but postgresql is 5432) and therefore where you are is not an

  issue.



 Well, the issue is, that normally, connects to mysql are NOT

 allowed from any arbitrary host. Normally, in safe setups,

 network connections to mysql are not possible. And if they

 are, you need to specify a ip from which connects are allowed.



this should be set up by your isp though so as part of a mysql package you'd
get this type of access to your db's

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  i'm sorry but i seem to be completely missing your point.

 Yeah, seems like so :)

 
  mysql accepts incoming requests on a specific socket (can't remember

 You mean port, don't you?

  one, but postgresql is 5432) and therefore where you are is not an
  issue.

 Well, the issue is, that normally, connects to mysql are NOT allowed from
any arbitrary host.  Normally, in safe setups, network connections to mysql
are not possible.  And if they are, you need to specify a ip from which
connects are allowed.

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Re: [PHP] Alternative to phpMyAdmin

2001-07-13 Thread Egan

On Fri, 13 Jul 2001 11:15:52 +0100, Steve Brett
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one of the guys i work for has an account with a service provider that gives
mysql databases as part of his package. he has an account and password that
is supplied when using mysql-front to connect to his database.

Does mysql-front encrypt the password before it travels the net?




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RE: [PHP] Alternative to phpMyAdmin

2001-07-13 Thread Matthew Loff


Unfortunately, it doesn't -- you bring up a good point. 

It does support the compressed client/server protocol, which would make
it harder to intercept-- but encryption is not an option yet on the
client.

I don't suppose there's any way on Win32 to use an SSH tunnel, is there?


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Sent: Friday, July 13, 2001 10:06 AM
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On Fri, 13 Jul 2001 11:15:52 +0100, Steve Brett
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

one of the guys i work for has an account with a service provider that 
gives mysql databases as part of his package. he has an account and 
password that is supplied when using mysql-front to connect to his 
database.

Does mysql-front encrypt the password before it travels the net?




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RE: [PHP] Alternative to phpMyAdmin

2001-07-13 Thread scott [gts]

like you said... as long as the database provider accepts
connections from outside, you can administer it from anywhere.

if the provider doesn't accept incoming connections, no amount
of tools and software will work for you.

 -Original Message-
 From: Alexander Skwar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
 Subject: RE: [PHP] Alternative to phpMyAdmin


  if you install mysql on a windoze machine then you can administer ANY 
 mysql database going through the socket.

 Okay, for a development this may be fine, but I still fail to see how a
 tool that runs on your own computer (no matter if it's a Windows tool, or
 a Linux tool) can help you administer databases which are not on the same
 computer (unless the mysql database on the providers server can be
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RE: [PHP] Alternative to phpMyAdmin

2001-07-12 Thread Steve Brett

mysql front is by far my favourite

available from mysql download section.

Steve

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 Sent: 12 July 2001 05:01
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 Subject: [PHP] Alternative to phpMyAdmin
 
 
 Hi all! I love phpMyAdmin, just makes life so easy :) But I 
 just moved my site, and phpMyAdmin isnt working on my server 
 yet, so does any one have any solid alternatives that I can install??
 
 Thanks, Steph
 

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Re: [PHP] Alternative to phpMyAdmin

2001-07-12 Thread Henrik Hansen

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steve Brett) wrote:

  mysql front is by far my favourite
  
  available from mysql download section.

or mysqlfront.de

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RE: [PHP] Alternative to phpMyAdmin

2001-07-12 Thread Matthew Loff


I second that recommendation-- MySQL-Front is downright excellent!

http://www.mysqlfront.de/


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Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2001 6:47 AM
To: Steph; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [PHP] Alternative to phpMyAdmin


mysql front is by far my favourite

available from mysql download section.

Steve

 -Original Message-
 From: Steph [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: 12 July 2001 05:01
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [PHP] Alternative to phpMyAdmin
 
 
 Hi all! I love phpMyAdmin, just makes life so easy :) But I
 just moved my site, and phpMyAdmin isnt working on my server 
 yet, so does any one have any solid alternatives that I can install??
 
 Thanks, Steph
 

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Re: [PHP] Alternative to phpMyAdmin

2001-07-12 Thread Clayton Dukes

I'd like to cast my vote for Webmin :-)
www.webmin.com


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 I second that recommendation-- MySQL-Front is downright excellent!

 http://www.mysqlfront.de/


 -Original Message-
 From: Steve Brett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2001 6:47 AM
 To: Steph; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [PHP] Alternative to phpMyAdmin


 mysql front is by far my favourite

 available from mysql download section.

 Steve

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  From: Steph [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: 12 July 2001 05:01
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: [PHP] Alternative to phpMyAdmin
 
 
  Hi all! I love phpMyAdmin, just makes life so easy :) But I
  just moved my site, and phpMyAdmin isnt working on my server
  yet, so does any one have any solid alternatives that I can install??
 
  Thanks, Steph
 

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Re: [PHP] Alternative to phpMyAdmin

2001-07-12 Thread Alexander Skwar

So sprach »Matthew Loff« am 2001-07-12 um 14:07:16 -0400 :
 
 I second that recommendation-- MySQL-Front is downright excellent!
 
 http://www.mysqlfront.de/

Well, but how is that going to work, if Steph wants to manage his
databases on his providers server?

Besides, mysqlfront is a Windows program...

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RE: [PHP] Alternative to phpMyAdmin

2001-07-12 Thread Steph

After a little investigation, I figured out what was wrong - for whatever
reason the server is requiring /index.php as part of the url. But thanks
guys, I'll definitely look into MYSQL- Front!!

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I second that recommendation-- MySQL-Front is downright excellent!

http://www.mysqlfront.de/


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To: Steph; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [PHP] Alternative to phpMyAdmin


mysql front is by far my favourite

available from mysql download section.

Steve

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 Sent: 12 July 2001 05:01
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 Subject: [PHP] Alternative to phpMyAdmin


 Hi all! I love phpMyAdmin, just makes life so easy :) But I
 just moved my site, and phpMyAdmin isnt working on my server
 yet, so does any one have any solid alternatives that I can install??

 Thanks, Steph


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RE: [PHP] Alternative to phpMyAdmin

2001-07-12 Thread scott [gts]

i manage the production mysql database on a linux server
from my windows desktop at work

it's an extremely nice program.  :)

many compliments to the authour, if he reads this list.

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 So sprach »Matthew Loff« am 2001-07-12 um 14:07:16 -0400 :
 
  I second that recommendation-- MySQL-Front is downright excellent!
 
  http://www.mysqlfront.de/

 Well, but how is that going to work, if Steph wants to manage his
 databases on his providers server?

 Besides, mysqlfront is a Windows program...

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RE: [PHP] Alternative to phpMyAdmin

2001-07-12 Thread Matthew Loff


Same here... I run MySQL on Win2k as well as Linux machines, and use
Mysql-Front for things like table creation, user management, etc.  

It's also a great tool for EXPLAINing massive queries to find the most
efficient.



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To: php
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i manage the production mysql database on a linux server
from my windows desktop at work

it's an extremely nice program.  :)

many compliments to the authour, if he reads this list.

 -Original Message-
 From: Alexander Skwar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2001 2:15 PM
 To: Matthew Loff
 Cc: 'Steve Brett'; 'Steph'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [PHP] Alternative to phpMyAdmin


 So sprach »Matthew Loff« am 2001-07-12 um 14:07:16 -0400 :
 
  I second that recommendation-- MySQL-Front is downright excellent!
 
  http://www.mysqlfront.de/

 Well, but how is that going to work, if Steph wants to manage his 
 databases on his providers server?

 Besides, mysqlfront is a Windows program...

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Re: [PHP] Alternative to phpMyAdmin

2001-07-11 Thread Andras Kende

Steph,

This one is cgi based and works well too..
http://www.gossamer-threads.com/scripts/mysqlman/index.htm

Why phpMyAdmin doesn't work on the new server? maybe you need newer
development versions?


Andras

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Subject: [PHP] Alternative to phpMyAdmin


Hi all! I love phpMyAdmin, just makes life so easy :) But I just moved my
site, and phpMyAdmin isnt working on my server yet, so does any one have any
solid alternatives that I can install??

Thanks, Steph



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Re: [PHP] Alternative to phpMyAdmin

2001-07-11 Thread Steph

Andrea ,

Thanks for the feedback. Actually it doesnt work as far as how my host set
it up. I just get page cannot be displayed, and have been told by my host
that they dont have it working on the server yet. But Chris Lott (fellow PHP
lister) suggested I install it myself, which I may just go ahead and try.
thanks Chris

Steph

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From: Andras Kende [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2001 10:52 PM
Subject: Re: [PHP] Alternative to phpMyAdmin


 Steph,

 This one is cgi based and works well too..
 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/scripts/mysqlman/index.htm

 Why phpMyAdmin doesn't work on the new server? maybe you need newer
 development versions?


 Andras

 - Original Message -
 From: Steph [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2001 9:00 PM
 Subject: [PHP] Alternative to phpMyAdmin


 Hi all! I love phpMyAdmin, just makes life so easy :) But I just moved my
 site, and phpMyAdmin isnt working on my server yet, so does any one have
any
 solid alternatives that I can install??

 Thanks, Steph




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