Re: [PHP] Cool PHP Tricks/Features ?
No, that's not a problem either! snip from manual Before ob_gzhandler() actually sends compressed data, it determines what type of content encoding the browser will accept (gzip, deflate or none at all) and will return it's output accordingly. All browsers are supported since it's up to the browser to send the correct header saying that it accepts compressed web pages. /snip from manual HTH Danny. - Original Message - From: Sqlcoders.com Programming Dept [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 1:25 PM Subject: Re: [PHP] Cool PHP Tricks/Features ? Just remember that not every browser understands gzip compression, but also remember that a probably larger percentage of visitors have ECMAScript (JavaScript) switched off. You takes your chances, you makes your choice... -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Cool PHP Tricks/Features ?
Ummm, This output compression sounded cool to me when I came across it, but I wasn't sure it really helped or was appropriate for us to use: 1. My biggest concern is the slowest user i.e. at the end of a modem on the other side of the planet. I thought they would almost certainly have modem compression so doing our own compression doesn't really help them at all i.e. actual download speeds stay the same, it's just we/they do the work rather than the modems. 2. I was surprised when I got ISDN dial-up that it didn't seem to have automatic compression on the line, but assumed that was going to change. Am I too hopeful? 3. But surely, ASDL, cable, the backbone and decent intranets must all do hardware compression, don't they? Or are they secretly not very keen on decreasing network traffic? 4. Finally, if the network hardware isn't handling compression for us, I would have thought it was a good job for a web server. I guess I'd have to ask the Apache guys, but I would guess this can be really neatly done with some fancy mod_rewrite, custom extension or whatever. In summary, I can't agree more that all pages should be compressed, but don't feel it should be our job. Maybe I'm wrong and this is another case of the poor old application developer having to do all the * work, just because the rest of the computing industry is too busy counting its profits to do its own job properly ;). What's everyone else think? George Sqlcoders.Com Programming Dept wrote: I've seen real-life examples of 100k pages going down to around 30k, considering that decrease in size, when you remember that CPU time is relatively cheap compared to bandwidth, it's worth the processing overhead in my opinion. Small (20k) pages probably aren't worth it, for anything larger then as it's been mentioned, even if visitors have no idea the pages are smaller, if they load in 1/3 of the time it's useful, wanted, and definitely cool. Just remember that not every browser understands gzip compression, but also remember that a probably larger percentage of visitors have ECMAScript (JavaScript) switched off. You takes your chances, you makes your choice... William. - Original Message - From: SP [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Girish Nath' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: May 14 2002 06:29 PM Subject: RE: [PHP] Cool PHP Tricks/Features ? Well if his normal page is 100k and he can cut the size down to 50k with gzip then instead of having a monthly transfer of 100 GB for example, he would only be paying for 50 GB. Seems like it's useful for extremely large sites. -Original Message- From: John Holmes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: May 14, 2002 6:43 PM To: 'Girish Nath'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [PHP] Cool PHP Tricks/Features ? Why do you think this is useful to you? I remember reading an article on this and its conclusion was that zipping the output was only beneficial for large data between fast computers over a slow pipe. You have to look at who your clients are and if it's beneficial to have their machine use up extra time (processing power) unzipping things or not. Also, you're using more processing time on your computer having to do the zipping for every request, too. ---John Holmes... -Original Message- From: Girish Nath [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 9:28 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [PHP] Cool PHP Tricks/Features ? Hi I've been using PHP for about 2 years now but only just discovered ob_gzhandler and gzip/compressing http output. It's something i wish i'd found out about earlier because even though it's a simple concept the result blew me away :) Anyway, i just wanted to know of any other cool tricks/features that you guys are using that others could have overlooked. Thanks Girish -- www.girishnath.co.uk -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.361 / Virus Database: 199 - Release Date: 07/05/02 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.361 / Virus Database: 199 - Release Date: 07/05/02 -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: [PHP] Cool PHP Tricks/Features ?
It's quite some time since I dealt directly with modems and packets moving over networks per se so some of this may well prove wrong - feel free to point it out if I am someone. 3. But surely, ASDL, cable, the backbone and decent intranets must all do hardware compression, don't they? Or are they secretly not very keen on decreasing network traffic? Perhaps there's an element of confusion in technologies. A modem is an analogue device. It converts a digital signal into an analogue one to transfer it over a phone line as audio. As such, it is capable of being compressed due to the nature of the signal (being audio and all). A digital network link (which includes ISDN, ADSL and the backbone link stuff) is just that - a digital link. No conversion to analogue takes place. On a digital link you're moving packets of data. I doubt there's much scope of a packet of data that would typically be under 1k in size (going purely from memory here and quite happy to be told otherwise). Different technologies involve different concepts basically. CYA, Dave -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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Modem compression will only affect data between the modem and the ISP. A point you don't appear to have considered is that by compressing at the server a host can significantly reduce outgoing bandwidth (i.e. the stuff they pay for) - the less you use, the less you pay. Compressing pages is very lightweight on a cpu and i'd advise enabling compression by default, only disabling it if there is a noticable decrease in server performance. Processing power is probably cheaper today than bandwidth is. HTH. Danny. - Original Message - From: George Whiffen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sqlcoders.Com Programming Dept [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 1:24 PM Subject: Re: [PHP] Cool PHP Tricks/Features ? Ummm, This output compression sounded cool to me when I came across it, but I wasn't sure it really helped or was appropriate for us to use: 1. My biggest concern is the slowest user i.e. at the end of a modem on the other side of the planet. I thought they would almost certainly have modem compression so doing our own compression doesn't really help them at all i.e. actual download speeds stay the same, it's just we/they do the work rather than the modems. 2. I was surprised when I got ISDN dial-up that it didn't seem to have automatic compression on the line, but assumed that was going to change. Am I too hopeful? 3. But surely, ASDL, cable, the backbone and decent intranets must all do hardware compression, don't they? Or are they secretly not very keen on decreasing network traffic? 4. Finally, if the network hardware isn't handling compression for us, I would have thought it was a good job for a web server. I guess I'd have to ask the Apache guys, but I would guess this can be really neatly done with some fancy mod_rewrite, custom extension or whatever. In summary, I can't agree more that all pages should be compressed, but don't feel it should be our job. Maybe I'm wrong and this is another case of the poor old application developer having to do all the * work, just because the rest of the computing industry is too busy counting its profits to do its own job properly ;). What's everyone else think? George Sqlcoders.Com Programming Dept wrote: I've seen real-life examples of 100k pages going down to around 30k, considering that decrease in size, when you remember that CPU time is relatively cheap compared to bandwidth, it's worth the processing overhead in my opinion. Small (20k) pages probably aren't worth it, for anything larger then as it's been mentioned, even if visitors have no idea the pages are smaller, if they load in 1/3 of the time it's useful, wanted, and definitely cool. Just remember that not every browser understands gzip compression, but also remember that a probably larger percentage of visitors have ECMAScript (JavaScript) switched off. You takes your chances, you makes your choice... William. - Original Message - From: SP [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Girish Nath' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: May 14 2002 06:29 PM Subject: RE: [PHP] Cool PHP Tricks/Features ? Well if his normal page is 100k and he can cut the size down to 50k with gzip then instead of having a monthly transfer of 100 GB for example, he would only be paying for 50 GB. Seems like it's useful for extremely large sites. -Original Message- From: John Holmes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: May 14, 2002 6:43 PM To: 'Girish Nath'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [PHP] Cool PHP Tricks/Features ? Why do you think this is useful to you? I remember reading an article on this and its conclusion was that zipping the output was only beneficial for large data between fast computers over a slow pipe. You have to look at who your clients are and if it's beneficial to have their machine use up extra time (processing power) unzipping things or not. Also, you're using more processing time on your computer having to do the zipping for every request, too. ---John Holmes... -Original Message- From: Girish Nath [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 9:28 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [PHP] Cool PHP Tricks/Features ? Hi I've been using PHP for about 2 years now but only just discovered ob_gzhandler and gzip/compressing http output. It's something i wish i'd found out about earlier because even though it's a simple concept the result blew me away :) Anyway, i just wanted to know of any other cool tricks/features that you guys are using that others could have overlooked. Thanks Girish -- www.girishnath.co.uk -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Cool PHP Tricks/Features ?
George Whiffen wrote: 1. My biggest concern is the slowest user i.e. at the end of a modem on the other side of the planet. I thought they would almost certainly have modem compression so doing our own compression doesn't really help them at all i.e. actual download speeds stay the same, it's just we/they do the work rather than the modems. Have you tried it? In summary, I can't agree more that all pages should be compressed, but don't feel it should be our job. Maybe I'm wrong and this is another case of the poor old application developer having to do all the * work, just because the rest of the computing industry is too busy counting its profits to do its own job properly ;). Apache isn't making any profits directly from its technology, but there is a mod_gzip module for Apache. Why is it so hard to put in *one line* of code (probably in an include file?) Why do you consider this all the work? You probably spend more time fiddling with TABLE CELLPADDING than you would on putting this line in one place, but you seem to think it's *another burden*. I look at it the other way - I love having more things under my control, and regardless of whether a webserver has configured outgoing compression or not, I can control it. What's everyone else think? See above. :) Michael Kimsal http://www.logicreate.com 734-480-9961 -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Cool PHP Tricks/Features ?
Danny Shepherd wrote: No, that's not a problem either! snip from manual Before ob_gzhandler() actually sends compressed data, it determines what type of content encoding the browser will accept (gzip, deflate or none at all) and will return it's output accordingly. All browsers are supported since it's up to the browser to send the correct header saying that it accepts compressed web pages. /snip from manual It is a problem if you're bothering to support NS4 users, because they can't handle it properly. NS has a useful habit of re-requesting a 'page' from the server under many conditions (used to be even when resizing the window). Currently, the browser will issue another GET against the same URL, even if the page had been POSTed. It will not bring back the same info, so VIEWSOURCE and PRINTing are already messed up. But even PRINTing a regular page that is gzipped is hosed, because NS tells the server it can handle zipped data, but it doesn't unzip before printing, so you'll be printing out compressed data to your printer. Don't even bother flaming me about x% of your users still use NS4 and it's a great browser and IE sucks etc. Michael Kimsal http://www.logicreate.com 734-480-9961 -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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On Wed, 15 May 2002, George Whiffen wrote: 1. My biggest concern is the slowest user i.e. at the end of a modem on the other side of the planet. I thought they would almost certainly have modem compression so doing our own compression doesn't really help them at all i.e. actual download speeds stay the same, it's just we/they do the work rather than the modems. The modem is only part of the route. All the people between you and the modem are paying for that bandwidth, and the costs are getting passed along somehow. 2. I was surprised when I got ISDN dial-up that it didn't seem to have automatic compression on the line, but assumed that was going to change. Am I too hopeful? Probably. 3. But surely, ASDL, cable, the backbone and decent intranets must all do hardware compression, don't they? Or are they secretly not very keen on decreasing network traffic? None of the above routinely do compression on data. Imagine backbone routers trying to compress data! The poor things run white-hot just trying to deal with packet headers. If they actually had to look at the data and do complicated transforms on it, that'd be the end of the internet. 4. Finally, if the network hardware isn't handling compression for us, I would have thought it was a good job for a web server. I guess I'd have to ask the Apache guys, but I would guess this can be really neatly done with some fancy mod_rewrite, custom extension or whatever. There is a module for Apache that does gzip compression. It's called - wait for it - mod_gzip. We use it and it seems to work great. Cuts our bandwidth bills down. I think the web server is a very reasonable place to do this compression. It divides the work so that it's in direct proportion to the volume of generated data. This is both fair and easy to manage. miguel -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: [PHP] Cool PHP Tricks/Features ?
HI Girish, I'm pretty new to php, using for about 8 months now, I haven't heard of these, can you go into some detail for me? Thanks, Steve -Original Message- From: Girish Nath [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 9:28 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [PHP] Cool PHP Tricks/Features ? Hi I've been using PHP for about 2 years now but only just discovered ob_gzhandler and gzip/compressing http output. It's something i wish i'd found out about earlier because even though it's a simple concept the result blew me away :) Anyway, i just wanted to know of any other cool tricks/features that you guys are using that others could have overlooked. Thanks Girish -- www.girishnath.co.uk -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Cool PHP Tricks/Features ?
Hi Steve http://www.php.net/manual/en/function.ob-gzhandler.php http://www.devshed.com/Server_Side/PHP/OutputBuffering/page8.html Basically it allows output to be compressed with gzip encoding as it's sent to the browser. I had a webpage that was part of an admin section of a website, it was 153K in size and getting a lot of hits. The result now is the page gets compressed to 17K and therefore uses less bandwidth/faster to download, this all happens transparently from the visitors point of view. Regards Girish -- www.girishnath.co.uk Steve Bradwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message 57A1618E7109D311A97D0008C7EBB3A1CBB31E@KITCHENER">news:57A1618E7109D311A97D0008C7EBB3A1CBB31E@KITCHENER... HI Girish, I'm pretty new to php, using for about 8 months now, I haven't heard of these, can you go into some detail for me? Thanks, Steve -Original Message- From: Girish Nath [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 9:28 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [PHP] Cool PHP Tricks/Features ? Hi I've been using PHP for about 2 years now but only just discovered ob_gzhandler and gzip/compressing http output. It's something i wish i'd found out about earlier because even though it's a simple concept the result blew me away :) Anyway, i just wanted to know of any other cool tricks/features that you guys are using that others could have overlooked. Thanks Girish -- www.girishnath.co.uk -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: [PHP] Cool PHP Tricks/Features ?
Why do you think this is useful to you? I remember reading an article on this and its conclusion was that zipping the output was only beneficial for large data between fast computers over a slow pipe. You have to look at who your clients are and if it's beneficial to have their machine use up extra time (processing power) unzipping things or not. Also, you're using more processing time on your computer having to do the zipping for every request, too. ---John Holmes... -Original Message- From: Girish Nath [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 9:28 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [PHP] Cool PHP Tricks/Features ? Hi I've been using PHP for about 2 years now but only just discovered ob_gzhandler and gzip/compressing http output. It's something i wish i'd found out about earlier because even though it's a simple concept the result blew me away :) Anyway, i just wanted to know of any other cool tricks/features that you guys are using that others could have overlooked. Thanks Girish -- www.girishnath.co.uk -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: [PHP] Cool PHP Tricks/Features ?
Well if his normal page is 100k and he can cut the size down to 50k with gzip then instead of having a monthly transfer of 100 GB for example, he would only be paying for 50 GB. Seems like it's useful for extremely large sites. -Original Message- From: John Holmes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: May 14, 2002 6:43 PM To: 'Girish Nath'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [PHP] Cool PHP Tricks/Features ? Why do you think this is useful to you? I remember reading an article on this and its conclusion was that zipping the output was only beneficial for large data between fast computers over a slow pipe. You have to look at who your clients are and if it's beneficial to have their machine use up extra time (processing power) unzipping things or not. Also, you're using more processing time on your computer having to do the zipping for every request, too. ---John Holmes... -Original Message- From: Girish Nath [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 9:28 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [PHP] Cool PHP Tricks/Features ? Hi I've been using PHP for about 2 years now but only just discovered ob_gzhandler and gzip/compressing http output. It's something i wish i'd found out about earlier because even though it's a simple concept the result blew me away :) Anyway, i just wanted to know of any other cool tricks/features that you guys are using that others could have overlooked. Thanks Girish -- www.girishnath.co.uk -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.361 / Virus Database: 199 - Release Date: 07/05/02 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.361 / Virus Database: 199 - Release Date: 07/05/02 -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: [PHP] Cool PHP Tricks/Features ?
Yes, it can be useful. I don't dispute that. All I'm saying is that it's not the save-all or whatever. Look at how much traffic it's going to save you, look at how much extra processing power you're taking from your CPU, look at the connections and computers of your clients, etc. Maybe it's not that big of a deal, but I just don't want some newbie seeing this and thinking that it's going to be the answer to all of their problems. I may even look into it for a couple large pages that I have. You can control it on a page-by-page basis, right? ---John Holmes... -Original Message- From: SP [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 9:29 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Girish Nath'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [PHP] Cool PHP Tricks/Features ? Well if his normal page is 100k and he can cut the size down to 50k with gzip then instead of having a monthly transfer of 100 GB for example, he would only be paying for 50 GB. Seems like it's useful for extremely large sites. -Original Message- From: John Holmes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: May 14, 2002 6:43 PM To: 'Girish Nath'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [PHP] Cool PHP Tricks/Features ? Why do you think this is useful to you? I remember reading an article on this and its conclusion was that zipping the output was only beneficial for large data between fast computers over a slow pipe. You have to look at who your clients are and if it's beneficial to have their machine use up extra time (processing power) unzipping things or not. Also, you're using more processing time on your computer having to do the zipping for every request, too. ---John Holmes... -Original Message- From: Girish Nath [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 9:28 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [PHP] Cool PHP Tricks/Features ? Hi I've been using PHP for about 2 years now but only just discovered ob_gzhandler and gzip/compressing http output. It's something i wish i'd found out about earlier because even though it's a simple concept the result blew me away :) Anyway, i just wanted to know of any other cool tricks/features that you guys are using that others could have overlooked. Thanks Girish -- www.girishnath.co.uk -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.361 / Virus Database: 199 - Release Date: 07/05/02 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.361 / Virus Database: 199 - Release Date: 07/05/02 -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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I've seen real-life examples of 100k pages going down to around 30k, considering that decrease in size, when you remember that CPU time is relatively cheap compared to bandwidth, it's worth the processing overhead in my opinion. Small (20k) pages probably aren't worth it, for anything larger then as it's been mentioned, even if visitors have no idea the pages are smaller, if they load in 1/3 of the time it's useful, wanted, and definitely cool. Just remember that not every browser understands gzip compression, but also remember that a probably larger percentage of visitors have ECMAScript (JavaScript) switched off. You takes your chances, you makes your choice... William. - Original Message - From: SP [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Girish Nath' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: May 14 2002 06:29 PM Subject: RE: [PHP] Cool PHP Tricks/Features ? Well if his normal page is 100k and he can cut the size down to 50k with gzip then instead of having a monthly transfer of 100 GB for example, he would only be paying for 50 GB. Seems like it's useful for extremely large sites. -Original Message- From: John Holmes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: May 14, 2002 6:43 PM To: 'Girish Nath'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [PHP] Cool PHP Tricks/Features ? Why do you think this is useful to you? I remember reading an article on this and its conclusion was that zipping the output was only beneficial for large data between fast computers over a slow pipe. You have to look at who your clients are and if it's beneficial to have their machine use up extra time (processing power) unzipping things or not. Also, you're using more processing time on your computer having to do the zipping for every request, too. ---John Holmes... -Original Message- From: Girish Nath [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 9:28 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [PHP] Cool PHP Tricks/Features ? Hi I've been using PHP for about 2 years now but only just discovered ob_gzhandler and gzip/compressing http output. It's something i wish i'd found out about earlier because even though it's a simple concept the result blew me away :) Anyway, i just wanted to know of any other cool tricks/features that you guys are using that others could have overlooked. Thanks Girish -- www.girishnath.co.uk -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.361 / Virus Database: 199 - Release Date: 07/05/02 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.361 / Virus Database: 199 - Release Date: 07/05/02 -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Cool PHP Tricks/Features ?
Hi John You *can* control on a a page-by-page basis as i'm doing now. I have some pages admin pages that are getting a lot of hits and i'm using the compression to reduce them from 52K to 7K and 153K to 17K! The majority of the users are accessing via 56K modem/ISDN so i'm willing to trade a tiny bit of cpu usage on a lightly loaded machine and save a lot of bandwidth in the process. Your customers may have access to T1 lines so won't see the difference, however my 56K customers noticed the difference without me even telling them about it. Regards Girish - Original Message - From: John Holmes [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'SP' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Girish Nath' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 3:18 AM Subject: RE: [PHP] Cool PHP Tricks/Features ? Yes, it can be useful. I don't dispute that. All I'm saying is that it's not the save-all or whatever. Look at how much traffic it's going to save you, look at how much extra processing power you're taking from your CPU, look at the connections and computers of your clients, etc. Maybe it's not that big of a deal, but I just don't want some newbie seeing this and thinking that it's going to be the answer to all of their problems. I may even look into it for a couple large pages that I have. You can control it on a page-by-page basis, right? ---John Holmes... -Original Message- From: SP [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 9:29 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Girish Nath'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [PHP] Cool PHP Tricks/Features ? Well if his normal page is 100k and he can cut the size down to 50k with gzip then instead of having a monthly transfer of 100 GB for example, he would only be paying for 50 GB. Seems like it's useful for extremely large sites. -Original Message- From: John Holmes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: May 14, 2002 6:43 PM To: 'Girish Nath'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [PHP] Cool PHP Tricks/Features ? Why do you think this is useful to you? I remember reading an article on this and its conclusion was that zipping the output was only beneficial for large data between fast computers over a slow pipe. You have to look at who your clients are and if it's beneficial to have their machine use up extra time (processing power) unzipping things or not. Also, you're using more processing time on your computer having to do the zipping for every request, too. ---John Holmes... -Original Message- From: Girish Nath [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 9:28 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [PHP] Cool PHP Tricks/Features ? Hi I've been using PHP for about 2 years now but only just discovered ob_gzhandler and gzip/compressing http output. It's something i wish i'd found out about earlier because even though it's a simple concept the result blew me away :) Anyway, i just wanted to know of any other cool tricks/features that you guys are using that others could have overlooked. Thanks Girish -- www.girishnath.co.uk -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.361 / Virus Database: 199 - Release Date: 07/05/02 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.361 / Virus Database: 199 - Release Date: 07/05/02 -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
