Re: [PHP] Eliminatimg PHP UTF-8 BOM in a returned stream to a Mobile App
2011/4/12 Eli Orr eli@logodial.com: Dear PHP Gurus, I would like to Eliminate the 3 UTF-8 BOM enforced on my returned BLOB: The PHP server adds utf-8 BOM (UTF-8 Byte Order Mark - in the beginning of UTF-8 files) which consists of three bytes: EF BB BF. The Mobile App served by the server Does not need that. How can I eliminate it?? Thanks. UTF-8 Byte Order Mark – BOM: http://unicode.org/faq/utf_bom.html#BOM Best Regards, Eli Orr CTO Founder Mimmage.com My virtual vCard LogoDial Ltd. M:+972-54-7379604 O:+972-74-703-2034 F: +972-77-3379604 Plaut 10, Rehovot, Israel Email: eli@logodial.com Skype: eliorr.com - -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php Can you show us the PHP script that DOES output the BOM? Normally, PHP doesn't do this automatically (AFAIK). The main reason being is that it is often the case that the BOM appears in the source code file before the ?php opening tag, so would block headers (session cookie for example). If a BOM is being issued by PHP, it is being done programmatically, or is being missed due to the initial source code file having the BOM set. See http://docs.php.net/manual/en/function.session-start.php#102431, http://docs.php.net/manual/en/function.header.php#95864, etc. Now. Having said all of that, you may find you are using some sort of output buffering and that is setting the BOM after the headers are sent. But, as it stands, PHP will not be generating the BOM for you. -- Richard Quadling Twitter : EE : Zend @RQuadling : e-e.com/M_248814.html : bit.ly/9O8vFY -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: [PHP] Eliminatimg PHP UTF-8 BOM in a returned stream to a Mobile App
Hi Richard, Thanks. Indeed, that is the case - I've included a code that has UTF-8 string contants -so I guess the PHP parser set the UTF-8 mode to ON so that the returned string to the client has the UTF-8 BOM. It is not a big issue as the mobile app guys aware of this and make the proper 3 bytes offset. Anyhow I was looking for a service to control that behaviour. Thanks Eli -Original Message- From: Richard Quadling [mailto:rquadl...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2011 12:45 PM To: Eli Orr Cc: php-general@lists.php.net Subject: Re: [PHP] Eliminatimg PHP UTF-8 BOM in a returned stream to a Mobile App 2011/4/12 Eli Orr eli@logodial.com: Dear PHP Gurus, I would like to Eliminate the 3 UTF-8 BOM enforced on my returned BLOB: The PHP server adds utf-8 BOM (UTF-8 Byte Order Mark - in the beginning of UTF-8 files) which consists of three bytes: EF BB BF. The Mobile App served by the server Does not need that. How can I eliminate it?? Thanks. UTF-8 Byte Order Mark – BOM: http://unicode.org/faq/utf_bom.html#BOM Best Regards, Eli Orr CTO Founder Mimmage.com My virtual vCard LogoDial Ltd. M:+972-54-7379604 O:+972-74-703-2034 F: +972-77-3379604 Plaut 10, Rehovot, Israel Email: eli@logodial.com Skype: eliorr.com - -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php Can you show us the PHP script that DOES output the BOM? Normally, PHP doesn't do this automatically (AFAIK). The main reason being is that it is often the case that the BOM appears in the source code file before the ?php opening tag, so would block headers (session cookie for example). If a BOM is being issued by PHP, it is being done programmatically, or is being missed due to the initial source code file having the BOM set. See http://docs.php.net/manual/en/function.session-start.php#102431, http://docs.php.net/manual/en/function.header.php#95864, etc. Now. Having said all of that, you may find you are using some sort of output buffering and that is setting the BOM after the headers are sent. But, as it stands, PHP will not be generating the BOM for you. -- Richard Quadling Twitter : EE : Zend @RQuadling : e-e.com/M_248814.html : bit.ly/9O8vFY -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Eliminatimg PHP UTF-8 BOM in a returned stream to a Mobile App
On 12 April 2011 11:59, Eli Orr eli@logodial.com wrote: Hi Richard, Thanks. Indeed, that is the case - I've included a code that has UTF-8 string contants -so I guess the PHP parser set the UTF-8 mode to ON so that the returned string to the client has the UTF-8 BOM. It is not a big issue as the mobile app guys aware of this and make the proper 3 bytes offset. Anyhow I was looking for a service to control that behaviour. Thanks Eli -Original Message- From: Richard Quadling [mailto:rquadl...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2011 12:45 PM To: Eli Orr Cc: php-general@lists.php.net Subject: Re: [PHP] Eliminatimg PHP UTF-8 BOM in a returned stream to a Mobile App 2011/4/12 Eli Orr eli@logodial.com: Dear PHP Gurus, I would like to Eliminate the 3 UTF-8 BOM enforced on my returned BLOB: The PHP server adds utf-8 BOM (UTF-8 Byte Order Mark - in the beginning of UTF-8 files) which consists of three bytes: EF BB BF. The Mobile App served by the server Does not need that. How can I eliminate it?? Thanks. UTF-8 Byte Order Mark – BOM: http://unicode.org/faq/utf_bom.html#BOM Best Regards, Eli Orr CTO Founder Mimmage.com My virtual vCard LogoDial Ltd. M:+972-54-7379604 O:+972-74-703-2034 F: +972-77-3379604 Plaut 10, Rehovot, Israel Email: eli@logodial.com Skype: eliorr.com - -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php Can you show us the PHP script that DOES output the BOM? Normally, PHP doesn't do this automatically (AFAIK). The main reason being is that it is often the case that the BOM appears in the source code file before the ?php opening tag, so would block headers (session cookie for example). If a BOM is being issued by PHP, it is being done programmatically, or is being missed due to the initial source code file having the BOM set. See http://docs.php.net/manual/en/function.session-start.php#102431, http://docs.php.net/manual/en/function.header.php#95864, etc. Now. Having said all of that, you may find you are using some sort of output buffering and that is setting the BOM after the headers are sent. But, as it stands, PHP will not be generating the BOM for you. -- Richard Quadling Twitter : EE : Zend @RQuadling : e-e.com/M_248814.html : bit.ly/9O8vFY -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php No. The parser does not _ADD_ the BOM. The bom already exists in your source code. Nothing to do with PHP. The file you included that has the UTF-8 constants has the BOM. You need to edit that file and remove the BOM. The actions you need to take will depend upon your editor. -- Richard Quadling Twitter : EE : Zend @RQuadling : e-e.com/M_248814.html : bit.ly/9O8vFY -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Eliminatimg PHP UTF-8 BOM in a returned stream to a Mobile App
On 12 April 2011 12:50, Richard Quadling rquadl...@gmail.com wrote: On 12 April 2011 11:59, Eli Orr eli@logodial.com wrote: Hi Richard, Thanks. Indeed, that is the case - I've included a code that has UTF-8 string contants -so I guess the PHP parser set the UTF-8 mode to ON so that the returned string to the client has the UTF-8 BOM. It is not a big issue as the mobile app guys aware of this and make the proper 3 bytes offset. Anyhow I was looking for a service to control that behaviour. Thanks Eli -Original Message- From: Richard Quadling [mailto:rquadl...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2011 12:45 PM To: Eli Orr Cc: php-general@lists.php.net Subject: Re: [PHP] Eliminatimg PHP UTF-8 BOM in a returned stream to a Mobile App 2011/4/12 Eli Orr eli@logodial.com: Dear PHP Gurus, I would like to Eliminate the 3 UTF-8 BOM enforced on my returned BLOB: The PHP server adds utf-8 BOM (UTF-8 Byte Order Mark - in the beginning of UTF-8 files) which consists of three bytes: EF BB BF. The Mobile App served by the server Does not need that. How can I eliminate it?? Thanks. UTF-8 Byte Order Mark – BOM: http://unicode.org/faq/utf_bom.html#BOM Best Regards, Eli Orr CTO Founder Mimmage.com My virtual vCard LogoDial Ltd. M:+972-54-7379604 O:+972-74-703-2034 F: +972-77-3379604 Plaut 10, Rehovot, Israel Email: eli@logodial.com Skype: eliorr.com - -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php Can you show us the PHP script that DOES output the BOM? Normally, PHP doesn't do this automatically (AFAIK). The main reason being is that it is often the case that the BOM appears in the source code file before the ?php opening tag, so would block headers (session cookie for example). If a BOM is being issued by PHP, it is being done programmatically, or is being missed due to the initial source code file having the BOM set. See http://docs.php.net/manual/en/function.session-start.php#102431, http://docs.php.net/manual/en/function.header.php#95864, etc. Now. Having said all of that, you may find you are using some sort of output buffering and that is setting the BOM after the headers are sent. But, as it stands, PHP will not be generating the BOM for you. -- Richard Quadling Twitter : EE : Zend @RQuadling : e-e.com/M_248814.html : bit.ly/9O8vFY -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php No. The parser does not _ADD_ the BOM. The bom already exists in your source code. Nothing to do with PHP. The file you included that has the UTF-8 constants has the BOM. You need to edit that file and remove the BOM. The actions you need to take will depend upon your editor. -- Richard Quadling Twitter : EE : Zend @RQuadling : e-e.com/M_248814.html : bit.ly/9O8vFY To be a bit more specific... The BOM is the 3 bytes you correctly identified earlier. Most editors won't show these when you edit the files. But, for the sake of argument, let's just pretend they are visible and look like ... #@ In the php script that contains some UTF-8 constants, the file would look like ... #@php echo '￦'; // The Fullwidth Won sign. ? As PHP will only actually parse the content between ?php and ?, the #@ string (the BOM) is simply sent straight through to the web server - the client with no interruption. Now, if your code was ... #@php session_start(); ? you would see the headers already sent error message, as the BOM tells the webserver that data is now being received and to send any headers it already has. So when the session_start() wants to send the session cookie (which is done as a HTTP Header), PHP already knows some content has gone (the BOM) and reports the error. To iterate, PHP is NOT generating the BOM. You already did that in your code. Well, the editor did it for you. Ideally, you want to turn off the BOM in your editor. -- Richard Quadling Twitter : EE : Zend @RQuadling : e-e.com/M_248814.html : bit.ly/9O8vFY -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: [PHP] Eliminatimg PHP UTF-8 BOM in a returned stream to a Mobile App
Thanks Richard, Do you know a technique to mirror all the echo strings into a file for debugging ? Eli -Original Message- From: Richard Quadling [mailto:rquadl...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2011 2:51 PM To: Eli Orr Cc: php-general@lists.php.net Subject: Re: [PHP] Eliminatimg PHP UTF-8 BOM in a returned stream to a Mobile App On 12 April 2011 11:59, Eli Orr eli@logodial.com wrote: Hi Richard, Thanks. Indeed, that is the case - I've included a code that has UTF-8 string contants -so I guess the PHP parser set the UTF-8 mode to ON so that the returned string to the client has the UTF-8 BOM. It is not a big issue as the mobile app guys aware of this and make the proper 3 bytes offset. Anyhow I was looking for a service to control that behaviour. Thanks Eli -Original Message- From: Richard Quadling [mailto:rquadl...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2011 12:45 PM To: Eli Orr Cc: php-general@lists.php.net Subject: Re: [PHP] Eliminatimg PHP UTF-8 BOM in a returned stream to a Mobile App 2011/4/12 Eli Orr eli@logodial.com: Dear PHP Gurus, I would like to Eliminate the 3 UTF-8 BOM enforced on my returned BLOB: The PHP server adds utf-8 BOM (UTF-8 Byte Order Mark - in the beginning of UTF-8 files) which consists of three bytes: EF BB BF. The Mobile App served by the server Does not need that. How can I eliminate it?? Thanks. UTF-8 Byte Order Mark – BOM: http://unicode.org/faq/utf_bom.html#BOM Best Regards, Eli Orr CTO Founder Mimmage.com My virtual vCard LogoDial Ltd. M:+972-54-7379604 O:+972-74-703-2034 F: +972-77-3379604 Plaut 10, Rehovot, Israel Email: eli@logodial.com Skype: eliorr.com - -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php Can you show us the PHP script that DOES output the BOM? Normally, PHP doesn't do this automatically (AFAIK). The main reason being is that it is often the case that the BOM appears in the source code file before the ?php opening tag, so would block headers (session cookie for example). If a BOM is being issued by PHP, it is being done programmatically, or is being missed due to the initial source code file having the BOM set. See http://docs.php.net/manual/en/function.session-start.php#102431, http://docs.php.net/manual/en/function.header.php#95864, etc. Now. Having said all of that, you may find you are using some sort of output buffering and that is setting the BOM after the headers are sent. But, as it stands, PHP will not be generating the BOM for you. -- Richard Quadling Twitter : EE : Zend @RQuadling : e-e.com/M_248814.html : bit.ly/9O8vFY -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php No. The parser does not _ADD_ the BOM. The bom already exists in your source code. Nothing to do with PHP. The file you included that has the UTF-8 constants has the BOM. You need to edit that file and remove the BOM. The actions you need to take will depend upon your editor. -- Richard Quadling Twitter : EE : Zend @RQuadling : e-e.com/M_248814.html : bit.ly/9O8vFY -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: [PHP] Eliminatimg PHP UTF-8 BOM in a returned stream to a Mobile App
Hi Richard, Thanks. I've already got a solution to simply use Notes++ and save the PHP script with Save As encoding set to ANSI (It was UTF-8 indeed that creates the BOM...). Thanks again Eli -Original Message- From: Richard Quadling [mailto:rquadl...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2011 2:59 PM To: Eli Orr Cc: php-general@lists.php.net Subject: Re: [PHP] Eliminatimg PHP UTF-8 BOM in a returned stream to a Mobile App On 12 April 2011 12:50, Richard Quadling rquadl...@gmail.com wrote: On 12 April 2011 11:59, Eli Orr eli@logodial.com wrote: Hi Richard, Thanks. Indeed, that is the case - I've included a code that has UTF-8 string contants -so I guess the PHP parser set the UTF-8 mode to ON so that the returned string to the client has the UTF-8 BOM. It is not a big issue as the mobile app guys aware of this and make the proper 3 bytes offset. Anyhow I was looking for a service to control that behaviour. Thanks Eli -Original Message- From: Richard Quadling [mailto:rquadl...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2011 12:45 PM To: Eli Orr Cc: php-general@lists.php.net Subject: Re: [PHP] Eliminatimg PHP UTF-8 BOM in a returned stream to a Mobile App 2011/4/12 Eli Orr eli@logodial.com: Dear PHP Gurus, I would like to Eliminate the 3 UTF-8 BOM enforced on my returned BLOB: The PHP server adds utf-8 BOM (UTF-8 Byte Order Mark - in the beginning of UTF-8 files) which consists of three bytes: EF BB BF. The Mobile App served by the server Does not need that. How can I eliminate it?? Thanks. UTF-8 Byte Order Mark – BOM: http://unicode.org/faq/utf_bom.html#BOM Best Regards, Eli Orr CTO Founder Mimmage.com My virtual vCard LogoDial Ltd. M:+972-54-7379604 O:+972-74-703-2034 F: +972-77-3379604 Plaut 10, Rehovot, Israel Email: eli@logodial.com Skype: eliorr.com - -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php Can you show us the PHP script that DOES output the BOM? Normally, PHP doesn't do this automatically (AFAIK). The main reason being is that it is often the case that the BOM appears in the source code file before the ?php opening tag, so would block headers (session cookie for example). If a BOM is being issued by PHP, it is being done programmatically, or is being missed due to the initial source code file having the BOM set. See http://docs.php.net/manual/en/function.session-start.php#102431, http://docs.php.net/manual/en/function.header.php#95864, etc. Now. Having said all of that, you may find you are using some sort of output buffering and that is setting the BOM after the headers are sent. But, as it stands, PHP will not be generating the BOM for you. -- Richard Quadling Twitter : EE : Zend @RQuadling : e-e.com/M_248814.html : bit.ly/9O8vFY -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php No. The parser does not _ADD_ the BOM. The bom already exists in your source code. Nothing to do with PHP. The file you included that has the UTF-8 constants has the BOM. You need to edit that file and remove the BOM. The actions you need to take will depend upon your editor. -- Richard Quadling Twitter : EE : Zend @RQuadling : e-e.com/M_248814.html : bit.ly/9O8vFY To be a bit more specific... The BOM is the 3 bytes you correctly identified earlier. Most editors won't show these when you edit the files. But, for the sake of argument, let's just pretend they are visible and look like ... #@ In the php script that contains some UTF-8 constants, the file would look like ... #@php echo '￦'; // The Fullwidth Won sign. ? As PHP will only actually parse the content between ?php and ?, the #@ string (the BOM) is simply sent straight through to the web server - the client with no interruption. Now, if your code was ... #@php session_start(); ? you would see the headers already sent error message, as the BOM tells the webserver that data is now being received and to send any headers it already has. So when the session_start() wants to send the session cookie (which is done as a HTTP Header), PHP already knows some content has gone (the BOM) and reports the error. To iterate, PHP is NOT generating the BOM. You already did that in your code. Well, the editor did it for you. Ideally, you want to turn off the BOM in your editor. -- Richard Quadling Twitter : EE : Zend @RQuadling : e-e.com/M_248814.html : bit.ly/9O8vFY -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Eliminatimg PHP UTF-8 BOM in a returned stream to a Mobile App
On 12 April 2011 13:29, Eli Orr eli@logodial.com wrote: Hi Richard, Thanks. I've already got a solution to simply use Notes++ and save the PHP script with Save As encoding set to ANSI (It was UTF-8 indeed that creates the BOM...). Thanks again Eli -Original Message- From: Richard Quadling [mailto:rquadl...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2011 2:59 PM To: Eli Orr Cc: php-general@lists.php.net Subject: Re: [PHP] Eliminatimg PHP UTF-8 BOM in a returned stream to a Mobile App On 12 April 2011 12:50, Richard Quadling rquadl...@gmail.com wrote: On 12 April 2011 11:59, Eli Orr eli@logodial.com wrote: Hi Richard, Thanks. Indeed, that is the case - I've included a code that has UTF-8 string contants -so I guess the PHP parser set the UTF-8 mode to ON so that the returned string to the client has the UTF-8 BOM. It is not a big issue as the mobile app guys aware of this and make the proper 3 bytes offset. Anyhow I was looking for a service to control that behaviour. Thanks Eli -Original Message- From: Richard Quadling [mailto:rquadl...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2011 12:45 PM To: Eli Orr Cc: php-general@lists.php.net Subject: Re: [PHP] Eliminatimg PHP UTF-8 BOM in a returned stream to a Mobile App 2011/4/12 Eli Orr eli@logodial.com: Dear PHP Gurus, I would like to Eliminate the 3 UTF-8 BOM enforced on my returned BLOB: The PHP server adds utf-8 BOM (UTF-8 Byte Order Mark - in the beginning of UTF-8 files) which consists of three bytes: EF BB BF. The Mobile App served by the server Does not need that. How can I eliminate it?? Thanks. UTF-8 Byte Order Mark – BOM: http://unicode.org/faq/utf_bom.html#BOM Best Regards, Eli Orr CTO Founder Mimmage.com My virtual vCard LogoDial Ltd. M:+972-54-7379604 O:+972-74-703-2034 F: +972-77-3379604 Plaut 10, Rehovot, Israel Email: eli@logodial.com Skype: eliorr.com - -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php Can you show us the PHP script that DOES output the BOM? Normally, PHP doesn't do this automatically (AFAIK). The main reason being is that it is often the case that the BOM appears in the source code file before the ?php opening tag, so would block headers (session cookie for example). If a BOM is being issued by PHP, it is being done programmatically, or is being missed due to the initial source code file having the BOM set. See http://docs.php.net/manual/en/function.session-start.php#102431, http://docs.php.net/manual/en/function.header.php#95864, etc. Now. Having said all of that, you may find you are using some sort of output buffering and that is setting the BOM after the headers are sent. But, as it stands, PHP will not be generating the BOM for you. -- Richard Quadling Twitter : EE : Zend @RQuadling : e-e.com/M_248814.html : bit.ly/9O8vFY -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php No. The parser does not _ADD_ the BOM. The bom already exists in your source code. Nothing to do with PHP. The file you included that has the UTF-8 constants has the BOM. You need to edit that file and remove the BOM. The actions you need to take will depend upon your editor. -- Richard Quadling Twitter : EE : Zend @RQuadling : e-e.com/M_248814.html : bit.ly/9O8vFY To be a bit more specific... The BOM is the 3 bytes you correctly identified earlier. Most editors won't show these when you edit the files. But, for the sake of argument, let's just pretend they are visible and look like ... #@ In the php script that contains some UTF-8 constants, the file would look like ... #@php echo '￦'; // The Fullwidth Won sign. ? As PHP will only actually parse the content between ?php and ?, the #@ string (the BOM) is simply sent straight through to the web server - the client with no interruption. Now, if your code was ... #@php session_start(); ? you would see the headers already sent error message, as the BOM tells the webserver that data is now being received and to send any headers it already has. So when the session_start() wants to send the session cookie (which is done as a HTTP Header), PHP already knows some content has gone (the BOM) and reports the error. To iterate, PHP is NOT generating the BOM. You already did that in your code. Well, the editor did it for you. Ideally, you want to turn off the BOM in your editor. -- Richard Quadling Twitter : EE : Zend @RQuadling : e-e.com/M_248814.html : bit.ly/9O8vFY -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php Hmmm. You really want to save the code as UTF-8 without BOM. What is the editor? The references for Notes++ I can find is for a post-it notes app. -- Richard Quadling Twitter : EE : Zend @RQuadling :
