Re: [PHP] Multiple browser instances - is it possible to determine which browser?
You may consider the use of Javascript to control the parent and child windows and frames of your application. /dkm - Original Message - From: Neil Kimber [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 04, 2002 9:51 AM Subject: [PHP] Multiple browser instances - is it possible to determine which browser? We have an application framework that tidies up application session variables as you traverse from page to page. It works really nicely - until a user opens up 2 instances of a browser. Our code cannot distinguish between different browser instances, so browser instance 2 causes our application session vars for browser instance 1 to be cleared out. We've toyed with many ideas and short of forcing a unique hidden value to be 'POST'ed to every page from every page we don't have an elegant solution. Is there any other way that we could do this? Neil -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: [PHP] Multiple browser instances - is it possible to determine which browser?
We've considered using javascript but cannot think of a way that would work. Take a simple example, 2 browsers - opened separately, pointing at different pages. We thought that we could set some property of each instance of the browser to a unique value (i.e. the window name). We would only need to do it once, when entering the site. But, when a new page is loaded there is no way from PHP to grab this unique value, unless it has been sent to the loaded page as a GET or POST variable. This would mean that we would have to pass this value to every page as a GET or POST variable. GETs are problematic, leaving us with POSTs only. But POSTING to every page is a pain. Is there any other way? -Original Message- From: Dennis Moore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 04 March 2002 15:28 To: Neil Kimber; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [PHP] Multiple browser instances - is it possible to determine which browser? You may consider the use of Javascript to control the parent and child windows and frames of your application. /dkm - Original Message - From: Neil Kimber [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 04, 2002 9:51 AM Subject: [PHP] Multiple browser instances - is it possible to determine which browser? We have an application framework that tidies up application session variables as you traverse from page to page. It works really nicely - until a user opens up 2 instances of a browser. Our code cannot distinguish between different browser instances, so browser instance 2 causes our application session vars for browser instance 1 to be cleared out. We've toyed with many ideas and short of forcing a unique hidden value to be 'POST'ed to every page from every page we don't have an elegant solution. Is there any other way that we could do this? Neil -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: [PHP] Multiple browser instances - is it possible to determine which browser
Create a frame set. if your page opens without frameset the did something wrong, at least not allowed. (like open in a new window) If the main page, containing the frameset is loaded, the page is opened in a new window or they pressed f5(reload). === We've considered using javascript but cannot think of a way that would work. Take a simple example, 2 browsers - opened separately, pointing at different pages. We thought that we could set some property of each instance of the browser to a unique value (i.e. the window name). We would only need to do it once, when entering the site. But, when a new page is loaded there is no way from PHP to grab this unique value, unless it has been sent to the loaded page as a GET or POST variable. This would mean that we would have to pass this value to every page as a GET or POST variable. GETs are problematic, leaving us with POSTs only. But POSTING to every page is a pain. Is there any other way? -Original Message- From: Dennis Moore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 04 March 2002 15:28 To: Neil Kimber; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [PHP] Multiple browser instances - is it possible to determine which browser? You may consider the use of Javascript to control the parent and child windows and frames of your application. /dkm - Original Message - From: Neil Kimber [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 04, 2002 9:51 AM Subject: [PHP] Multiple browser instances - is it possible to determine which browser? We have an application framework that tidies up application session variables as you traverse from page to page. It works really nicely - until a user opens up 2 instances of a browser. Our code cannot distinguish between different browser instances, so browser instance 2 causes our application session vars for browser instance 1 to be cleared out. We've toyed with many ideas and short of forcing a unique hidden value to be 'POST'ed to every page from every page we don't have an elegant solution. Is there any other way that we could do this? Neil -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php _ Meld je aan bij de grootste e-mailservice wereldwijd met MSN Hotmail: http://www.hotmail.com/nl -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: [PHP] Multiple browser instances - is it possible to determine which browser
How would that help directly in PHP? PHP cannot interrogate framesets or other attributes of the browser. I could see this working if we had javascript that wanted to keep track of which browser instance is being handled. But from PHP I don't see how this could work. PHP can interrogate the browser to some extent (i.e. to ask for the browser name/version etc..), I guess that what we are looking for is some property of the browser that we can set that PHP can also pickup, or some unique id for a browser instance. -Original Message- From: LuC . [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 04 March 2002 15:46 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [PHP] Multiple browser instances - is it possible to determine which browser Create a frame set. if your page opens without frameset the did something wrong, at least not allowed. (like open in a new window) If the main page, containing the frameset is loaded, the page is opened in a new window or they pressed f5(reload). === We've considered using javascript but cannot think of a way that would work. Take a simple example, 2 browsers - opened separately, pointing at different pages. We thought that we could set some property of each instance of the browser to a unique value (i.e. the window name). We would only need to do it once, when entering the site. But, when a new page is loaded there is no way from PHP to grab this unique value, unless it has been sent to the loaded page as a GET or POST variable. This would mean that we would have to pass this value to every page as a GET or POST variable. GETs are problematic, leaving us with POSTs only. But POSTING to every page is a pain. Is there any other way? -Original Message- From: Dennis Moore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 04 March 2002 15:28 To: Neil Kimber; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [PHP] Multiple browser instances - is it possible to determine which browser? You may consider the use of Javascript to control the parent and child windows and frames of your application. /dkm - Original Message - From: Neil Kimber [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 04, 2002 9:51 AM Subject: [PHP] Multiple browser instances - is it possible to determine which browser? We have an application framework that tidies up application session variables as you traverse from page to page. It works really nicely - until a user opens up 2 instances of a browser. Our code cannot distinguish between different browser instances, so browser instance 2 causes our application session vars for browser instance 1 to be cleared out. We've toyed with many ideas and short of forcing a unique hidden value to be 'POST'ed to every page from every page we don't have an elegant solution. Is there any other way that we could do this? Neil -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php _ Meld je aan bij de grootste e-mailservice wereldwijd met MSN Hotmail: http://www.hotmail.com/nl -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: [PHP] Multiple browser instances - is it possible to determine which browser
I am looking for exactly the same thing. There must be a way to handle this problem from php. Doing it from javascript makes sense only if you have a simple website. Besides I don't use frames, so even with javascript I can't solve the problem. Maybe there's a way to find a browser's unique id! Any ideaswould be helpful!!! -Original Message- From: Neil Kimber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 04 March 2002 16:02 To: LuC .; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [PHP] Multiple browser instances - is it possible to determine which browser How would that help directly in PHP? PHP cannot interrogate framesets or other attributes of the browser. I could see this working if we had javascript that wanted to keep track of which browser instance is being handled. But from PHP I don't see how this could work. PHP can interrogate the browser to some extent (i.e. to ask for the browser name/version etc..), I guess that what we are looking for is some property of the browser that we can set that PHP can also pickup, or some unique id for a browser instance. -Original Message- From: LuC . [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 04 March 2002 15:46 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [PHP] Multiple browser instances - is it possible to determine which browser Create a frame set. if your page opens without frameset the did something wrong, at least not allowed. (like open in a new window) If the main page, containing the frameset is loaded, the page is opened in a new window or they pressed f5(reload). === We've considered using javascript but cannot think of a way that would work. Take a simple example, 2 browsers - opened separately, pointing at different pages. We thought that we could set some property of each instance of the browser to a unique value (i.e. the window name). We would only need to do it once, when entering the site. But, when a new page is loaded there is no way from PHP to grab this unique value, unless it has been sent to the loaded page as a GET or POST variable. This would mean that we would have to pass this value to every page as a GET or POST variable. GETs are problematic, leaving us with POSTs only. But POSTING to every page is a pain. Is there any other way? -Original Message- From: Dennis Moore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 04 March 2002 15:28 To: Neil Kimber; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [PHP] Multiple browser instances - is it possible to determine which browser? You may consider the use of Javascript to control the parent and child windows and frames of your application. /dkm - Original Message - From: Neil Kimber [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 04, 2002 9:51 AM Subject: [PHP] Multiple browser instances - is it possible to determine which browser? We have an application framework that tidies up application session variables as you traverse from page to page. It works really nicely - until a user opens up 2 instances of a browser. Our code cannot distinguish between different browser instances, so browser instance 2 causes our application session vars for browser instance 1 to be cleared out. We've toyed with many ideas and short of forcing a unique hidden value to be 'POST'ed to every page from every page we don't have an elegant solution. Is there any other way that we could do this? Neil -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php _ Meld je aan bij de grootste e-mailservice wereldwijd met MSN Hotmail: http://www.hotmail.com/nl -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
