RE: RE: [PHP] the state of the PHP community
From: Per Jessen Bob McConnell wrote: In chronological order - Languages: [snip] C++ (Still don't understand the purpose of objects or classes). Two words - encapsulation and abstraction. Both of which are euphemisms that simply mean obfuscation. I learned very early in my professional career to eschew obfuscation, so they don't impress me at all. In addition, I really don't do abstraction well. I have trouble when I have to deal with more than two levels of indirection. Having written and debugged a _lot_ of real-time applications and device drivers, in both assembler and C, I am much more comfortable with the concrete, like managing I/O registers, interrupt controllers and circular buffers. Unfortunately, there aren't many of those jobs left. That's one of the primary reasons I am looking forward to retiring. I still believe that OOP is as much of a fad as Structured Programming and Top-Down Programming were. They all can be used to solve certain classes of problems, but none of them are a silver bullet for software development. OOP will eventually learn its place in the overall scheme of programming, but it will never be universally applicable. Bob McConnell -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: RE: [PHP] the state of the PHP community
Bob McConnell wrote: From: Per Jessen Bob McConnell wrote: In chronological order - Languages: [snip] C++ (Still don't understand the purpose of objects or classes). Two words - encapsulation and abstraction. Both of which are euphemisms that simply mean obfuscation. Certainly not. All structured languages have abstraction and encapsulation. The minute you write a function or procedure, you are abstracting and encapsulating. C++ (Smalltalk, Eiffel et al) are just very focused on those to concepts. I learned very early in my professional career to eschew obfuscation, so they don't impress me at all. In addition, I really don't do abstraction well. I have trouble when I have to deal with more than two levels of indirection. Having written and debugged a _lot_ of real-time applications and device drivers, in both assembler and C, I am much more comfortable with the concrete, like managing I/O registers, interrupt controllers and circular buffers. I used to write system software for StorageTek (HSC, VTCS, Librarystation), been there, done that. It doesn't mean I can't appreciate the qualities in encapsulation and abstraction. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (20.6°C) -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
