Re: [PHP] Bounce messages
David McGlone wrote: And Yes tamouse ... it's having to replace a block of return addresses with just the list address to tidy things up. A long list of addresses can build up when everyone uses 'reply all' where as many other lists just need 'reply' so nowadays I only use reply - and hopefully remember to change to the the list address:) I use reply to mailing list in Kontact. I have looked ;) But importing 12+Gb of past history going back to 1998 was not practical. ONE of these days I will get all the important stuff archived in my PHP based contact management system but it's still on the TODO pile while I waste time re-working the code to make it compliant with the lasted 'vision' of PHP :) But YES that is a button that all email clients would benefit from! -- Lester Caine - G8HFL - Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk Rainbow Digital Media - http://rainbowdigitalmedia.co.uk -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Bounce messages
Op 21 sep. 2012 09:41 schreef Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk het volgende: I know that the php list are one of the 'reply to sender' email handling camp rather than reply to list. I can cope with that now and handle the multiple reply address problem this end so I ONLY reply to list. BUT is there no way of cleaning up the bounce emails we all get when posting to the list(s)? What exactly is your problem? I don't get it and I still don't see a problem here..
[PHP] Re: PHP Bounce messages
On 21 Sep 2012 at 08:40, Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk wrote: I know that the php list are one of the 'reply to sender' email handling camp rather than reply to list. I don't understand this. I reply (not that I mail that often) just to the list, if possible. Why would I do anything else? -- Cheers -- Tim -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Bounce messages
On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 08:40:23AM +0100, Lester Caine wrote: I know that the php list are one of the 'reply to sender' email handling camp rather than reply to list. I can cope with that now and handle the multiple reply address problem this end so I ONLY reply to list. BUT is there no way of cleaning up the bounce emails we all get when posting to the list(s)? ( Waits to delete all the bounce messages for this post :) ) Not seeing bounce messages here. Paul -- Paul M. Foster http://noferblatz.com http://quillandmouse.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Bounce messages
On 09/21/2012 12:40 AM, Lester Caine wrote: I know that the php list are one of the 'reply to sender' email handling camp rather than reply to list. I can cope with that now and handle the multiple reply address problem this end so I ONLY reply to list. BUT is there no way of cleaning up the bounce emails we all get when posting to the list(s)? ( Waits to delete all the bounce messages for this post :) ) Doing a little checking on your IP address, I have found that your mail server IP is listed on a black list. Check the link below. http://mxtoolbox.com/SuperTool.aspx?action=blacklist%3a213.123.20.127 This could be the source of your bounce messages. -- Jim Lucas http://www.cmsws.com/ http://www.cmsws.com/examples/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Bounce messages
On Fri, 2012-09-21 at 09:56 -0700, Jim Lucas wrote: On 09/21/2012 12:40 AM, Lester Caine wrote: I know that the php list are one of the 'reply to sender' email handling camp rather than reply to list. I can cope with that now and handle the multiple reply address problem this end so I ONLY reply to list. BUT is there no way of cleaning up the bounce emails we all get when posting to the list(s)? ( Waits to delete all the bounce messages for this post :) ) Doing a little checking on your IP address, I have found that your mail server IP is listed on a black list. Check the link below. http://mxtoolbox.com/SuperTool.aspx?action=blacklist%3a213.123.20.127 This could be the source of your bounce messages. -- Jim Lucas http://www.cmsws.com/ http://www.cmsws.com/examples/ I sporadically get a lot of messages that appear as bounces where people on the list filter out replies and make you sign up to some web service to prove you're a real person. Is that the sort of bounce you're talking about? -- Thanks, Ash http://www.ashleysheridan.co.uk
RE: [PHP] Bounce messages
Hi, I don't know if this is specifically what he is referring to when he says, the 'reply to sender' email handling camp , but I know that when I just click Reply it goes to the individual whose post I am commenting on. I need to click on Reply All and several emails are in the blanks and I need to delete them all and move the list email address from the CC: box to the TO: box. If I am not paying attention and don't do this little email musical chairs process, sometimes I will get out of office replies from some of the email addresses in the reply. Is this 'bouncing'? Jeff -Original Message- From: Ashley Sheridan [mailto:a...@ashleysheridan.co.uk] Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 2:56 PM To: Jim Lucas Cc: Lester Caine; php-general@lists.php.net Subject: Re: [PHP] Bounce messages On Fri, 2012-09-21 at 09:56 -0700, Jim Lucas wrote: On 09/21/2012 12:40 AM, Lester Caine wrote: I know that the php list are one of the 'reply to sender' email handling camp rather than reply to list. I can cope with that now and handle the multiple reply address problem this end so I ONLY reply to list. BUT is there no way of cleaning up the bounce emails we all get when posting to the list(s)? ( Waits to delete all the bounce messages for this post :) ) Doing a little checking on your IP address, I have found that your mail server IP is listed on a black list. Check the link below. http://mxtoolbox.com/SuperTool.aspx?action=blacklist%3a213.123.20.127 This could be the source of your bounce messages. -- Jim Lucas http://www.cmsws.com/ http://www.cmsws.com/examples/ I sporadically get a lot of messages that appear as bounces where people on the list filter out replies and make you sign up to some web service to prove you're a real person. Is that the sort of bounce you're talking about? -- Thanks, Ash http://www.ashleysheridan.co.uk -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Bounce messages
On 09/21/2012 12:22 PM, Jeff Burcher wrote: Hi, I don't know if this is specifically what he is referring to when he says, the 'reply to sender' email handling camp , but I know that when I just click Reply it goes to the individual whose post I am commenting on. I need to click on Reply All and several emails are in the blanks and I need to delete them all and move the list email address from the CC: box to the TO: box. If I am not paying attention and don't do this little email musical chairs process, sometimes I will get out of office replies from some of the email addresses in the reply. Is this 'bouncing'? Technically, it is called back scatter. And SPAMers can use it to send SPAM to unsuspecting servers. And http://www.backscatterer.org loves to block mail servers that have auto responders turned on. Jeff -Original Message- From: Ashley Sheridan [mailto:a...@ashleysheridan.co.uk] Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 2:56 PM To: Jim Lucas Cc: Lester Caine; php-general@lists.php.net Subject: Re: [PHP] Bounce messages On Fri, 2012-09-21 at 09:56 -0700, Jim Lucas wrote: On 09/21/2012 12:40 AM, Lester Caine wrote: I know that the php list are one of the 'reply to sender' email handling camp rather than reply to list. I can cope with that now and handle the multiple reply address problem this end so I ONLY reply to list. BUT is there no way of cleaning up the bounce emails we all get when posting to the list(s)? ( Waits to delete all the bounce messages for this post :) ) Doing a little checking on your IP address, I have found that your mail server IP is listed on a black list. Check the link below. http://mxtoolbox.com/SuperTool.aspx?action=blacklist%3a213.123.20.127 This could be the source of your bounce messages. -- Jim Lucas http://www.cmsws.com/ http://www.cmsws.com/examples/ I sporadically get a lot of messages that appear as bounces where people on the list filter out replies and make you sign up to some web service to prove you're a real person. Is that the sort of bounce you're talking about? -- Thanks, Ash http://www.ashleysheridan.co.uk -- Jim Lucas http://www.cmsws.com/ http://www.cmsws.com/examples/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Re: PHP Bounce messages
On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 4:17 AM, Tim Streater t...@clothears.org.uk wrote: On 21 Sep 2012 at 08:40, Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk wrote: I know that the php list are one of the 'reply to sender' email handling camp rather than reply to list. I don't understand this. I reply (not that I mail that often) just to the list, if possible. Why would I do anything else? I believe Lester is referring to the behaviour of the Reply-To: field sent by the list serv, which is the sender's address. Some other listservs put the list reply address in Reply-To: -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Bounce messages
Ashley Sheridan wrote: On 09/21/2012 12:40 AM, Lester Caine wrote: I know that the php list are one of the 'reply to sender' email handling camp rather than reply to list. I can cope with that now and handle the multiple reply address problem this end so I ONLY reply to list. BUT is there no way of cleaning up the bounce emails we all get when posting to the list(s)? ( Waits to delete all the bounce messages for this post :) ) Doing a little checking on your IP address, I have found that your mail server IP is listed on a black list. Check the link below. http://mxtoolbox.com/SuperTool.aspx?action=blacklist%3a213.123.20.127 This could be the source of your bounce messages. Well that is BT Internet ;) Not a lot I can do about that ... I sporadically get a lot of messages that appear as bounces where people on the list filter out replies and make you sign up to some web service to prove you're a real person. Is that the sort of bounce you're talking about? Yes ... I posted a reply earlier, and got three 'spam' warnings as well as the copy of my post. Actually it's not as bad as it has been ... I was expecting a few more after I posted the comment. And Yes tamouse ... it's having to replace a block of return addresses with just the list address to tidy things up. A long list of addresses can build up when everyone uses 'reply all' where as many other lists just need 'reply' so nowadays I only use reply - and hopefully remember to change to the the list address :) -- Lester Caine - G8HFL - Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk Rainbow Digital Media - http://rainbowdigitalmedia.co.uk -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] Re: PHP Re: PHP Bounce messages
On 21 Sep 2012 at 20:56, tamouse mailing lists tamouse.li...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 4:17 AM, Tim Streater t...@clothears.org.uk wrote: On 21 Sep 2012 at 08:40, Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk wrote: I know that the php list are one of the 'reply to sender' email handling camp rather than reply to list. I don't understand this. I reply (not that I mail that often) just to the list, if possible. Why would I do anything else? I believe Lester is referring to the behaviour of the Reply-To: field sent by the list serv, which is the sender's address. Some other listservs put the list reply address in Reply-To: Thanks, I'm with you now. And I also do the To: cc: musical chairs. -- Cheers -- Tim -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Bounce messages
On Friday, September 21, 2012 11:31:36 PM Lester Caine wrote: Ashley Sheridan wrote: On 09/21/2012 12:40 AM, Lester Caine wrote: I know that the php list are one of the 'reply to sender' email handling camp rather than reply to list. I can cope with that now and handle the multiple reply address problem this end so I ONLY reply to list. BUT is there no way of cleaning up the bounce emails we all get when posting to the list(s)? ( Waits to delete all the bounce messages for this post :) ) Doing a little checking on your IP address, I have found that your mail server IP is listed on a black list. Check the link below. http://mxtoolbox.com/SuperTool.aspx?action=blacklist%3a213.123.20.127 This could be the source of your bounce messages. Well that is BT Internet ;) Not a lot I can do about that ... I sporadically get a lot of messages that appear as bounces where people on the list filter out replies and make you sign up to some web service to prove you're a real person. Is that the sort of bounce you're talking about? Yes ... I posted a reply earlier, and got three 'spam' warnings as well as the copy of my post. Actually it's not as bad as it has been ... I was expecting a few more after I posted the comment. And Yes tamouse ... it's having to replace a block of return addresses with just the list address to tidy things up. A long list of addresses can build up when everyone uses 'reply all' where as many other lists just need 'reply' so nowadays I only use reply - and hopefully remember to change to the the list address :) I use reply to mailing list in Kontact. -- David M. David's Webhosting and consulting.
