Re: [PHP] Cannot send a hyperlink (resent)
On Nov 16, 2007, at 9:15 AM, Scott Wilcox wrote: I personally think many, many mail servers will block any mail with X-Mailer containing PHP. Purely because there are an insane number of chances that its going to be spam. This is purely based on my opinion though, I'd expect others on the list to share it or be similar in viewpoint though. I'd personally not use that header. That is of course just my two cents though! Scott. Speaking as someone who runs a mail server, I don't specifically look for that kind of stuff... I have RBL lists, greylisting/delaying, Penalty Boxes, and a content scanner which I don't have active right now. I look more for forged helo's, and rbl failures to block my spam... Surprisingly, about 80 percent of my spam is simply blocked by greylisting... Easy and simple :) All you have to do to beat it, is try and resend the mail which mail servers do automatically anyway if they are setup right :) But that's just me... If you want some real info on it, I'd suggest the postfix mailing list. Lots of people on there, and lots of people at big companies there looking for stuff. -- Jason Pruim Raoset Inc. Technology Manager MQC Specialist 3251 132nd ave Holland, MI, 49424 www.raoset.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: [PHP] Cannot send a hyperlink (resent)
2007. 11. 16, péntek keltezéssel 09.09-kor tedd ezt írta: At 7:29 PM +0100 11/15/07, Per Jessen wrote: Brad wrote: Why is php refusing to parse as html? Here your code cut down to what you need: $headers = From: \.$fromname.\ .$fromaddress..$eol; $headers .= X-Mailer: PHP .phpversion().$eol; $headers .= MIME-Version: 1.0\r\n; $headers .= Content-Type: text/html; charset=\iso-8859-1\\r\n; $headers .= Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit.$eol; $body = a href=\http://www.zoneofsuccessclub.com\;link /a\n; mail($email, $subject, $body, $headers); I've been told that using: $headers .= X-Mailer: PHP .phpversion().$eol; is a good way to get stuck in a spam filter -- what do you think? I think there are spam filters out there which mark messages with X-Mailer: PHP as spam because many incorrectly coded php mail forms have been already abused by spammers... but also there are a lot of spam filters which mark messages without X-Mailer header as spam... so I tend to use a custom X-Mailer header for my applications, containing application name and version number and similar info greets Zoltán Németh Cheers, tedd -- --- http://sperling.com http://ancientstones.com http://earthstones.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Cannot send a hyperlink (resent)
On Nov 16, 2007 9:15 AM, Scott Wilcox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I personally think many, many mail servers will block any mail with X-Mailer containing PHP. Purely because there are an insane number of chances that its going to be spam. This is purely based on my opinion though, I'd expect others on the list to share it or be similar in viewpoint though. I'd personally not use that header. That is of course just my two cents though! Scott. tedd wrote: At 7:29 PM +0100 11/15/07, Per Jessen wrote: Brad wrote: Why is php refusing to parse as html? Here your code cut down to what you need: $headers = From: \.$fromname.\ .$fromaddress..$eol; $headers .= X-Mailer: PHP .phpversion().$eol; $headers .= MIME-Version: 1.0\r\n; $headers .= Content-Type: text/html; charset=\iso-8859-1\\r\n; $headers .= Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit.$eol; $body = a href=\http://www.zoneofsuccessclub.com\;link /a\n; mail($email, $subject, $body, $headers); I've been told that using: $headers .= X-Mailer: PHP .phpversion().$eol; is a good way to get stuck in a spam filter -- what do you think? Cheers, tedd There are some SMTP servers that rely on the X-Mailer header to determine whether or not a message is SPAM, and can decide in either favor, in part, on that information. However, keep in mind that X-Mailer is also non-Internet standard. In fact, it's even listed in RFC 2076 (gotta' love the RFCs!) as such. -- Daniel P. Brown [office] (570-) 587-7080 Ext. 272 [mobile] (570-) 766-8107 If at first you don't succeed, stick to what you know best so that you can make enough money to pay someone else to do it for you. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: [PHP] Cannot send a hyperlink (resent)
At 7:29 PM +0100 11/15/07, Per Jessen wrote: Brad wrote: Why is php refusing to parse as html? Here your code cut down to what you need: $headers = From: \.$fromname.\ .$fromaddress..$eol; $headers .= X-Mailer: PHP .phpversion().$eol; $headers .= MIME-Version: 1.0\r\n; $headers .= Content-Type: text/html; charset=\iso-8859-1\\r\n; $headers .= Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit.$eol; $body = a href=\http://www.zoneofsuccessclub.com\;link /a\n; mail($email, $subject, $body, $headers); I've been told that using: $headers .= X-Mailer: PHP .phpversion().$eol; is a good way to get stuck in a spam filter -- what do you think? Cheers, tedd -- --- http://sperling.com http://ancientstones.com http://earthstones.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Cannot send a hyperlink (resent)
I personally think many, many mail servers will block any mail with X-Mailer containing PHP. Purely because there are an insane number of chances that its going to be spam. This is purely based on my opinion though, I'd expect others on the list to share it or be similar in viewpoint though. I'd personally not use that header. That is of course just my two cents though! Scott. tedd wrote: At 7:29 PM +0100 11/15/07, Per Jessen wrote: Brad wrote: Why is php refusing to parse as html? Here your code cut down to what you need: $headers = From: \.$fromname.\ .$fromaddress..$eol; $headers .= X-Mailer: PHP .phpversion().$eol; $headers .= MIME-Version: 1.0\r\n; $headers .= Content-Type: text/html; charset=\iso-8859-1\\r\n; $headers .= Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit.$eol; $body = a href=\http://www.zoneofsuccessclub.com\;link /a\n; mail($email, $subject, $body, $headers); I've been told that using: $headers .= X-Mailer: PHP .phpversion().$eol; is a good way to get stuck in a spam filter -- what do you think? Cheers, tedd
RE: [PHP] Cannot send a hyperlink (resent)
tedd wrote: I've been told that using: $headers .= X-Mailer: PHP .phpversion().$eol; is a good way to get stuck in a spam filter -- what do you think? It wouldn't get you stuck in our filters. Personally I never add an X-Mailer when generating emails with PHP or bash or whatever - what's the added value? /Per Jessen, Zürich -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: [PHP] Cannot send a hyperlink (resent)
Hi gang: I didn't catch it and I'm too lazy to look it up, but someone in this thread provided this reference: http://www.bath.ac.uk/bucs/email/anatomy.shtml There was a similar thread going on a different list and I was told: Or RFCs 2821 and 2822 (the URL above refers to RFC 822, which has been obsoleted by 2822 for about six years or so). Basing the construction of an email message on some guide on how to read message headers is likely to deliver non-optimal results. It's more detailed than I normally think, but it might be of use to someone here. Cheers, tedd -- --- http://sperling.com http://ancientstones.com http://earthstones.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Cannot send a hyperlink (resent)
Scott Wilcox wrote: I personally think many, many mail servers will block any mail with X-Mailer containing PHP. Purely because there are an insane number of chances that its going to be spam. No sane mailserver or mailserver admin will block an email purely based on an X-Mailer: header. /Per Jessen, Zürich -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: [PHP] Cannot send a hyperlink (resent)
Brad wrote: Why is php refusing to parse as html? Here your code cut down to what you need: $headers = From: \.$fromname.\ .$fromaddress..$eol; $headers .= X-Mailer: PHP .phpversion().$eol; $headers .= MIME-Version: 1.0\r\n; $headers .= Content-Type: text/html; charset=\iso-8859-1\\r\n; $headers .= Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit.$eol; $body = a href=\http://www.zoneofsuccessclub.com\;link /a\n; mail($email, $subject, $body, $headers); /Per Jessen, Zürich -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
