Re: [PHP] Next Book

2001-07-08 Thread rick

I started off with a Core PHP4 book and quickly outgrew it.  I find that
most of the books don't get much past the basics either, so I find myself
sticking to www.php.net and it's wonderful searchable documentation.

I have read Web Application Development with PHP4.0
(http://www.phpwizard.net), which I enjoyed.  While it does go into some
more advanced PHP syntax, it mostly discusses application development
concepts -- stuff that would be boring for any experienced programmer of
other languages.  I think it's geared at the people who picked PHP up as
their first language (me included).

I'd be interested in some good PHP books as well, I feel like I'm in a rut.
At first, PHP was all new, and I was learning s much... but now if I
think up a task I can visualize how to do it in PHP pretty easily.  I know I
have a LOT to learn, but I think my problem is I don't know proper
programming techniques...

Has anyone tried to expand into other languages?  I like perl due to its
heavy similarity to PHP, but I like to focus on web stuff.

rick

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 Finished with Beginning PHP from Wrox. Am eyeing Advanced PHP from Wrox.
 Other good books I should think about? Recommendations? Reviews? I know
the
 PHP FAQ has pointers to books, but I am looking for recommendations on
what
 I SHOULD get as I transition from a Cold Fusion person to a PHP devotee :)

 Also looking for a good book on MySQL. The MySQL/MSQL book from O'Reilly
is
 pretty dated.

 c


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Re: [PHP] Next Book

2001-07-08 Thread Zak Greant

Rick wrote:
[...]
 I'd be interested in some good PHP books as well, I feel like I'm in a
rut.
 At first, PHP was all new, and I was learning s much... but now if I
 think up a task I can visualize how to do it in PHP pretty easily.  I know
I
 have a LOT to learn, but I think my problem is I don't know proper
 programming techniques...

I would recommend the PHP Developer's Dictionary - it is high-quality,
practical and covers a lot of ground - from basic PHP to advanced PHP to
building your own PHP extension.

Disclosure: I reviewed the manuscript for the author (as a favor :)

[...]

--zak


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Re: [PHP] Next Book

2001-07-08 Thread eschmid+sic

On Sat, Jul 07, 2001 at 10:23:58PM -0800, Chris Lott wrote:

 Also looking for a good book on MySQL. The MySQL/MSQL book from O'Reilly is
 pretty dated.

Please read MySQL from Paul DuBois. Some Reviewers are on the last day
on the LinuxDays in Stuttgart, Germany.

-Egon

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Re: [PHP] Next Book

2001-07-08 Thread Chris Lambert - WhiteCrown Networks

Good books for advanced topics are:
PHP4 Developer's Guide (Schwendiman)
PHP Developer's Cookbook (Hughes)
Web Application Development for PHP 4.0 (Ratschiller, Gerken)

And for MySQL,
Surprisingly, O'Reilly's version is weak, but Dubois' MySQL for New Riders
is very comprehensive. NuSphere hired Dubois as a tech writer for them a few
months back, too... :-)

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Subject: [PHP] Next Book


| Finished with Beginning PHP from Wrox. Am eyeing Advanced PHP from Wrox.
| Other good books I should think about? Recommendations? Reviews? I know
the
| PHP FAQ has pointers to books, but I am looking for recommendations on
what
| I SHOULD get as I transition from a Cold Fusion person to a PHP devotee :)
|
| Also looking for a good book on MySQL. The MySQL/MSQL book from O'Reilly
is
| pretty dated.
|
| c
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RE: [PHP] Next Book

2001-07-08 Thread Jason Lotito

PHP Developer's Cookbook, most definetly.
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0672319241/telvinsarchive

In all honesty, if I had just one book to choose, this would be it, and
along with the PHP Manual online, is a wonderful reference.

Jason Lotito
www.NewbieNetwork.net
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 -Original Message-
 From: Chris Lott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2001 2:24 AM
 To: Php-General (E-mail)
 Subject: [PHP] Next Book
 
 
 Finished with Beginning PHP from Wrox. Am eyeing Advanced PHP 
 from Wrox. Other good books I should think about? 
 Recommendations? Reviews? I know the PHP FAQ has pointers to 
 books, but I am looking for recommendations on what I SHOULD 
 get as I transition from a Cold Fusion person to a PHP devotee :)
 
 Also looking for a good book on MySQL. The MySQL/MSQL book 
 from O'Reilly is pretty dated.
 
 c
 
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Re: [PHP] Next Book

2001-07-08 Thread Lasse


Chris Lambert - WhiteCrown Networks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in
message 007901c10788$6ba051a0$6401a8c0@server">news:007901c10788$6ba051a0$6401a8c0@server...
[SNIP]
 Web Application Development for PHP 4.0 (Ratschiller, Gerken)

I can recommend this book for people who are already somewhat familiar with
PHP and who have a fair amount of programmin experience... Most of it is not
really so much about as it is about good programming style (with transcends
languages)...

It's a good inspiration source and has helped me change the (not so optimal)
way I did many tings... :-)

Definetely not a beginner's book though...

Also it has a chapter on hacking the PHP core contatining information you
probably won't find anywhere else...

--
Lasse




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Re: [PHP] Next Book

2001-07-08 Thread kath

 Web Application Development for PHP 4.0 (Ratschiller, Gerken)

I'm reading through this one now, I like it.

- k

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 Good books for advanced topics are:
 PHP4 Developer's Guide (Schwendiman)
 PHP Developer's Cookbook (Hughes)
 Web Application Development for PHP 4.0 (Ratschiller, Gerken)

 And for MySQL,
 Surprisingly, O'Reilly's version is weak, but Dubois' MySQL for New
Riders
 is very comprehensive. NuSphere hired Dubois as a tech writer for them a
few
 months back, too... :-)

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 - Original Message -
 From: Chris Lott [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Php-General (E-mail) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2001 2:23 AM
 Subject: [PHP] Next Book


 | Finished with Beginning PHP from Wrox. Am eyeing Advanced PHP from Wrox.
 | Other good books I should think about? Recommendations? Reviews? I know
 the
 | PHP FAQ has pointers to books, but I am looking for recommendations on
 what
 | I SHOULD get as I transition from a Cold Fusion person to a PHP devotee
:)
 |
 | Also looking for a good book on MySQL. The MySQL/MSQL book from O'Reilly
 is
 | pretty dated.
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 | c
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