Re: [PHP] PHP noobie
On Friday 29 July 2005 02:55, Jochem Maas wrote: Bob Stia wrote: Hello PHP list First allow me to apologize if this is the wrong place for this and direct me to the proper place. (be nice now!) this list is really for people who are programmning in php. as you describe it your looking for a php solution as an end user, so no this is not really the right place - although I couldn't really say where you would be better off. ..snip much... Hello PHP people, First of all let me thank all of the kind people who replied to my call for help and intruded into your domain, and there were many of you. It is much appreciated. I scrutinized all of your replies and have gained some knowledge from your replies. Some of you have offered help privately and I may well call upon your expertise. May I reserve the right to return to this list with a few questions??? Thanks again, Bob S. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] PHP noobie
On 7/30/05, Bob Stia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday 29 July 2005 02:55, Jochem Maas wrote: Bob Stia wrote: Hello PHP list First allow me to apologize if this is the wrong place for this and direct me to the proper place. (be nice now!) this list is really for people who are programmning in php. as you describe it your looking for a php solution as an end user, so no this is not really the right place - although I couldn't really say where you would be better off. ..snip much... Hello PHP people, First of all let me thank all of the kind people who replied to my call for help and intruded into your domain, and there were many of you. It is much appreciated. I scrutinized all of your replies and have gained some knowledge from your replies. Some of you have offered help privately and I may well call upon your expertise. May I reserve the right to return to this list with a few questions??? You'll always be welcome to ask questions so long as you've made some effort to find the answer yourself beforehand. You may have noticed that while your post was slightly OT, nobody objected since you had previously searched, which is more than a lot of people do. Thanks again, Bob S. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] PHP noobie
On 7/29/05, Bob Stia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello PHP list First allow me to apologize if this is the wrong place for this and direct me to the proper place. (be nice now!) I know nothing about PHP and have read at least 100 faqs and googled for hours. I don't even know some of the basics. Allow me to explain. I am the webmaster for a small web site for a Florida car club. The members have been asking if they could post info about events, communicate community wide, maybe post their own Classified ads, etc, I would like to comply with their wishes for an email/blog kind of thing but don't have the foggiest notion where to begin. The googling/faq's don't help me a bit and appears to be pretty complicated. I don't even know the basics. I really have no desire to go into a steep learning curve to accomplish what should be a pretty simple thing. I need simple and easy. I have composed in straight html (not that much,but enough) and with several GUI's. (all open source Linux based) I compose on my system and then simply upload to the site with FTP. I have found a few PHP packages but are not sure what they do. They require PHP, MySQL or Postgres, and Apache. Do I really need to install Apache? (The site is hosted by a commercial remote ISP as a courtesy/good will thing and I think they support PHP but do not wish to place any burden on them to support the site) Do I really need a data base? Please be patient and point the old guy in the right direction. Thanks, Bob S. Try googleing for wiki software. The software that runs wikipedia is: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Main_Page Dotan Cohen http://lyricslist.com/lyrics/artist_albums/41/armstrong_louis.php Armstrong, Louis Song Lyrics -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] PHP noobie
I've used Cutenews before and found it to be ok: http://www.cutephp.com/ Bob Stia wrote, On 29/07/05 08:47 AM: Hello PHP list First allow me to apologize if this is the wrong place for this and direct me to the proper place. (be nice now!) I know nothing about PHP and have read at least 100 faqs and googled for hours. I don't even know some of the basics. Allow me to explain. I am the webmaster for a small web site for a Florida car club. The members have been asking if they could post info about events, communicate community wide, maybe post their own Classified ads, etc, I would like to comply with their wishes for an email/blog kind of thing but don't have the foggiest notion where to begin. The googling/faq's don't help me a bit and appears to be pretty complicated. I don't even know the basics. I really have no desire to go into a steep learning curve to accomplish what should be a pretty simple thing. I need simple and easy. I have composed in straight html (not that much,but enough) and with several GUI's. (all open source Linux based) I compose on my system and then simply upload to the site with FTP. I have found a few PHP packages but are not sure what they do. They require PHP, MySQL or Postgres, and Apache. Do I really need to install Apache? (The site is hosted by a commercial remote ISP as a courtesy/good will thing and I think they support PHP but do not wish to place any burden on them to support the site) Do I really need a data base? Please be patient and point the old guy in the right direction. Thanks, Bob S. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] PHP noobie
Bob Stia wrote: Hello PHP list First allow me to apologize if this is the wrong place for this and direct me to the proper place. (be nice now!) this list is really for people who are programmning in php. as you describe it your looking for a php solution as an end user, so no this is not really the right place - although I couldn't really say where you would be better off. I know nothing about PHP and have read at least 100 faqs and googled for hours. I don't even know some of the basics. given that you seem to have STFW,etc , till your eye bled - and that by your own admission you are still clueless I (maybe others too!) will try to point you in the right direction. Allow me to explain. I am the webmaster for a small web site for a Florida car club. The members have been asking if they could post info about events, communicate community wide, maybe post their own Classified ads, etc, I would like to comply with their wishes for an email/blog kind of thing but don't have the foggiest notion where to begin. The googling/faq's don't help me a bit and appears to be pretty complicated. I don't even know the basics. I really have no desire to go into a steep learning curve to accomplish what should be a pretty simple thing. I need simple and easy. I have composed in straight html (not that much,but enough) and with several GUI's. (all open source Linux based) I compose on my system and ah if your using Linux on the desktop then you are already have an advantage :-) then simply upload to the site with FTP. I have found a few PHP packages but are not sure what they do. They require PHP, MySQL or Postgres, and Apache. Do I really need to install Apache? (The site is Apache is a webserver. you do need it - and its already installed (assuming the ISP/hosting-company is linux/unix/etc running their servers, as apposed to Windows - in which the webserver is probably not Apache but instead IIS. in practice, *for the end user* (before I start a flamewar), it does not really matter which webserver is being used (rather like it should not matter which webbrowser you use or which email application you use.) if the hosting company is running Apache then Im' willing to bet that they also have PHP and MySQL available (PostGres is a database engine, as is MySQL, MySQL is 'everywhere' whereas PostGres is a fringe player - not that many hosting companies support it - I would forget trying to run any application/package that requires PostGres in your case) you may have read the term LAMP? L Linux A Apache M MySQL P PHP (also Perl Python) a so called software stack - and it's installed blooming everywhere (almost) so don't worry too much about these requirements - regardless you do not have to install these yourself - your hosting company will have done all this (assuming they support LAMP) hosted by a commercial remote ISP as a courtesy/good will thing and I think they support PHP but do not wish to place any burden on them to you will either have to ask them or garner the information - if they don't support PHP then PHP cannot be of service to you unless you are willing to switch hosts. support the site) Do I really need a data base? 99% of all ready2go php packages/apps require a DB - I think you can safely assume you'll need one. Please be patient and point the old guy in the right direction. there are plenty of php apps out there. my first recommendation would be to try WordPress (http://wordpress.org) which is a very nice php blog app that has a very easy install process. I doubt WordPress will satisfy all your members wishes - but lets learn to walk before we run heh :-) whatever package you decide on, if you get into trouble installing it, head to the relevant forum where the developers and users of said package will be best able to help troubleshoot. good luck. Thanks, Bob S. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] PHP noobie
Bob, Try two things: 1. create a small file, name it phpinfo.php, which consists of these lines: ? phpinfo(); ? 2. upload it to your web site 3. run it - http://www.your.url/phpinfo.php where www.your.url is the address of yorur site. A. If PHP is installed, you will get a page full of information. It will include information on the database support, if any, which is compiled into PHP, the web server used for the site, and so forth. B. If PHP is NOT installed, those three lines of code will echo back to you. Where to go from here? Either ask the ISP to provide the necessary software, or shift to a different host. Many PHP applications rely on a back-end database, usually MySQL, because a database is the most efficient way to store and retrieve data. Hope this is helpful, and that I've not repeated what others have advised. Regards - Miles Thompson At 07:47 PM 7/28/2005, Bob Stia wrote: Hello PHP list First allow me to apologize if this is the wrong place for this and direct me to the proper place. (be nice now!) I know nothing about PHP and have read at least 100 faqs and googled for hours. I don't even know some of the basics. Allow me to explain. I am the webmaster for a small web site for a Florida car club. The members have been asking if they could post info about events, communicate community wide, maybe post their own Classified ads, etc, I would like to comply with their wishes for an email/blog kind of thing but don't have the foggiest notion where to begin. The googling/faq's don't help me a bit and appears to be pretty complicated. I don't even know the basics. I really have no desire to go into a steep learning curve to accomplish what should be a pretty simple thing. I need simple and easy. I have composed in straight html (not that much,but enough) and with several GUI's. (all open source Linux based) I compose on my system and then simply upload to the site with FTP. I have found a few PHP packages but are not sure what they do. They require PHP, MySQL or Postgres, and Apache. Do I really need to install Apache? (The site is hosted by a commercial remote ISP as a courtesy/good will thing and I think they support PHP but do not wish to place any burden on them to support the site) Do I really need a data base? Please be patient and point the old guy in the right direction. Thanks, Bob S. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] PHP noobie
Bob Stia wrote: Hello PHP list First allow me to apologize if this is the wrong place for this and direct me to the proper place. (be nice now!) I know nothing about PHP and have read at least 100 faqs and googled for hours. I don't even know some of the basics. The fact that you've searched before coming here puts you above 99% of the 'newbies'. Allow me to explain. I am the webmaster for a small web site for a Florida car club. The members have been asking if they could post info about events, communicate community wide, maybe post their own Classified ads, etc, I would like to comply with their wishes for an email/blog kind of thing but don't have the foggiest notion where to begin. The googling/faq's don't help me a bit and appears to be pretty complicated. I don't even know the basics. I really have no desire to go into a steep learning curve to accomplish what should be a pretty simple thing. I need simple and easy. There are plenty of pre-built packages out there. Look at places like HotScripts.com and php.resourceindex.com I have composed in straight html (not that much,but enough) and with several GUI's. (all open source Linux based) I compose on my system and then simply upload to the site with FTP. I have found a few PHP packages but are not sure what they do. They require PHP, MySQL or Postgres, and Apache. Do I really need to install Apache? (The site is hosted by a commercial remote ISP as a courtesy/good will thing and I think they support PHP but do not wish to place any burden on them to support the site) Do I really need a data base? Unless you build the app(s) yourself, you're at the mercy of the developers at to what is required to run the software. Most of these pre-built packages are pretty easy to install though and you can do it without the knowledge of PHP, MySQL, etc. Chances are, if your ISP is running some flavor of *nix for it's web servers, they already have Apache, PHP, and MySQL installed. -- John C. Nichel ÜberGeek KegWorks.com 716.856.9675 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
