Re: [PHP] Question on XML/XSL/PHP/MySQL

2010-01-27 Thread Ashley Sheridan 
On Wed, 2010-01-27 at 03:31 -0800, Ryan Park wrote:

 Hypothetically say that I have MySQL with petabytes of data. I want to 
 use XSL as my template language. But in order to use XSL, I need to make 
 XML filled with petabytes of data. This does not sound elaborate way to 
 use XSL/XML; I would rather use PHP/MySQL/Smarty. Is there a way around 
 this so that I can use XSL instead of Smarty?
 


I'm not really sure what you want to achieve here, as all of those
languages do quite different things! And I wouldn't ever recommend
having a single XML file with petabytes of data, that's just asking for
trouble!

Thanks,
Ash
http://www.ashleysheridan.co.uk

Re: [PHP] Question on XML/XSL/PHP/MySQL

2010-01-27 Thread Ryan Park 
My only reason doing this because I could use XSL as my templating 
engine; achieve the separation of content, design, and code. But in 
order to use XSL I need to use XML. XML needs to big if I want to use 
the data from the huge MySQL database.


On 1/27/2010 3:32 AM, Ashley Sheridan wrote:

On Wed, 2010-01-27 at 03:31 -0800, Ryan Park wrote:

Hypothetically say that I have MySQL with petabytes of data. I want to
use XSL as my template language. But in order to use XSL, I need to make
XML filled with petabytes of data. This does not sound elaborate way to
use XSL/XML; I would rather use PHP/MySQL/Smarty. Is there a way around
this so that I can use XSL instead of Smarty?

 


I'm not really sure what you want to achieve here, as all of those 
languages do quite different things! And I wouldn't ever recommend 
having a single XML file with petabytes of data, that's just asking 
for trouble!


Thanks,
Ash
http://www.ashleysheridan.co.uk

Re: [PHP] Question on XML/XSL/PHP/MySQL

2010-01-27 Thread Ashley Sheridan 
On Wed, 2010-01-27 at 03:39 -0800, Ryan Park wrote:

 My only reason doing this because I could use XSL as my templating 
 engine; achieve the separation of content, design, and code. But in 
 order to use XSL I need to use XML. XML needs to big if I want to use 
 the data from the huge MySQL database.
 
 On 1/27/2010 3:32 AM, Ashley Sheridan wrote:
  On Wed, 2010-01-27 at 03:31 -0800, Ryan Park wrote:
  Hypothetically say that I have MySQL with petabytes of data. I want to
  use XSL as my template language. But in order to use XSL, I need to make
  XML filled with petabytes of data. This does not sound elaborate way to
  use XSL/XML; I would rather use PHP/MySQL/Smarty. Is there a way around
  this so that I can use XSL instead of Smarty?
 
   
 
  I'm not really sure what you want to achieve here, as all of those 
  languages do quite different things! And I wouldn't ever recommend 
  having a single XML file with petabytes of data, that's just asking 
  for trouble!
 
  Thanks,
  Ash
  http://www.ashleysheridan.co.uk
 
 


The XML need only be as big as the final output that your XSL creates.
What I would do is use PHP to do any of the server-side operations, like
connect to MySQL and arrange the data, and then have PHP output the XML.
You could then use XSL to output the XML into something else, such as
HTML, pdf, etc.

Thanks,
Ash
http://www.ashleysheridan.co.uk

Re: [PHP] Question on XML/XSL/PHP/MySQL

2010-01-27 Thread Jay Ess 

Ryan Park wrote:
Hypothetically say that I have MySQL with petabytes of data. I want to 
use XSL as my template language. But in order to use XSL, I need to 
make XML filled with petabytes of data. This does not sound elaborate 
way to use XSL/XML; I would rather use PHP/MySQL/Smarty. Is there a 
way around this so that I can use XSL instead of Smarty?


I doubt that the generated page depends on a petabyte of data but a 
subset of that and thus you don't need to transform petabytes. Even if 
you got the hardware for it any other coworker with a clue would kick 
your ass, drag you out to the parking lot and change locks.
So if you got all this data in the DB you query for what you need and 
then transform that into your XML-data and then transform that via XSLT.


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Re: [PHP] Question on XML/XSL/PHP/MySQL

2010-01-27 Thread tedd 

At 3:39 AM -0800 1/27/10, Ryan Park wrote:
My only reason doing this because I could use XSL as my templating 
engine; achieve the separation of content, design, and code. But in 
order to use XSL I need to use XML. XML needs to big if I want to 
use the data from the huge MySQL database.


On 1/27/2010 3:32 AM, Ashley Sheridan wrote:

On Wed, 2010-01-27 at 03:31 -0800, Ryan Park wrote:

Hypothetically say that I have MySQL with petabytes of data. I want to
use XSL as my template language. But in order to use XSL, I need to make
XML filled with petabytes of data. This does not sound elaborate way to
use XSL/XML; I would rather use PHP/MySQL/Smarty. Is there a way around
this so that I can use XSL instead of Smarty?




I'm not really sure what you want to achieve here, as all of those 
languages do quite different things! And I wouldn't ever recommend 
having a single XML file with petabytes of data, that's just asking 
for trouble!



I may be off the mark, but if you want to style data then use css. It 
doesn't require your data to be in XML format.


Cheers,

tedd

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