Re: [PHP] Trapping for PDF Type and file size in a UPLOAD form...

2010-07-30 Thread Hans Åhlin
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2010/7/30 Pete Ford 

> On 29/07/10 19:10, tedd wrote:
>
>> At 9:50 AM -0700 7/29/10, Don Wieland wrote:
>>
>>> I am trying to create an UPLOAD form and need to figure a way to only
>>> allow PDF files to be selected.
>>>
>>
>> The short answer is you can't -- not from php. You can create a standard
>> form and upload it from there, but you don't have control over file type.
>>
>> So you can't stop people from uploading anything to your site via the
>> form, but you can look at the document once it's there and inspect it.
>> Using a HEX Editor, I see that most pdf file have the first four bytes
>> as "%PDF" so you might check that before moving the file to somewhere
>> important. But that doesn't stop spoofing.
>>
>>
The pdf files also ends with "startxref [some numbers]  %%EOF"


> Other than that, I can't see any way to do it.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> tedd
>>
>
> Second what tedd says, with a bit more: on a Linux backend system I run
> uploaded files through the 'file' command with a decent magic file to detect
> the file type. I also run every upload through a virus scanner (clamscan,
> for example) before I accept it.
> If your PHP backend is windows then you might need to do some research to
> find a good file-type detection routine, although the virus scanning should
> be possible.
>
> You certainly cannot trust the client side to do any checking. In any case,
> JavaScript doesn't (shouldn't) have access to the file you are trying to
> upload, so there's not much you can do there. You might achieve something
> client-side with Flash, or a Java uploader applet, I suppose.
>
> Cheers
> Pete
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Re: [PHP] Trapping for PDF Type and file size in a UPLOAD form...

2010-07-30 Thread Pete Ford

On 29/07/10 19:10, tedd wrote:

At 9:50 AM -0700 7/29/10, Don Wieland wrote:

I am trying to create an UPLOAD form and need to figure a way to only
allow PDF files to be selected.


The short answer is you can't -- not from php. You can create a standard
form and upload it from there, but you don't have control over file type.

So you can't stop people from uploading anything to your site via the
form, but you can look at the document once it's there and inspect it.
Using a HEX Editor, I see that most pdf file have the first four bytes
as "%PDF" so you might check that before moving the file to somewhere
important. But that doesn't stop spoofing.

Other than that, I can't see any way to do it.

Cheers,

tedd


Second what tedd says, with a bit more: on a Linux backend system I run uploaded 
files through the 'file' command with a decent magic file to detect the file 
type. I also run every upload through a virus scanner (clamscan, for example) 
before I accept it.
If your PHP backend is windows then you might need to do some research to find a 
good file-type detection routine, although the virus scanning should be possible.


You certainly cannot trust the client side to do any checking. In any case, 
JavaScript doesn't (shouldn't) have access to the file you are trying to upload, 
so there's not much you can do there. You might achieve something client-side 
with Flash, or a Java uploader applet, I suppose.


Cheers
Pete

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Re: [PHP] Trapping for PDF Type and file size in a UPLOAD form...

2010-07-29 Thread tedd

At 9:50 AM -0700 7/29/10, Don Wieland wrote:
I am trying to create an UPLOAD form and need to figure a way to 
only allow PDF files to be selected.


The short answer is you can't -- not from php. You can create a 
standard form and upload it from there, but you don't have control 
over file type.


So you can't stop people from uploading anything to your site via the 
form, but you can look at the document once it's there and inspect 
it. Using a HEX Editor, I see that most pdf file have the first four 
bytes as "%PDF" so you might check that before moving the file to 
somewhere important. But that doesn't stop spoofing.


Other than that, I can't see any way to do it.

Cheers,

tedd
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Re: [PHP] Trapping for PDF Type and file size in a UPLOAD form...

2010-07-29 Thread Joshua Kehn

On Jul 29, 2010, at 12:50 PM, Don Wieland wrote:

> I am trying to create an UPLOAD form and need to figure a way to only allow 
> PDF files to be selected. Something like:
> 
> 
> 
>   
>accept="application/pdf" />
>   Choose a file to upload:  type="file" />
>   
>   
> 
> 
> 
> It is documented online that I can pass a parameter ACCEPT="applaction/pdf",  
> BUT it is not recognized in most browsers.
> 
> It was suggested by someone that I could trap for this using a JAVASCRIPT. 
> Can someone assist with a snippet of javascript code to trap for this for me? 
> This is the end result I need:
> 
> If the user selects a file that IS NOT a PDF file, display an javascript 
> alert "You can only upload PDF files. Please try again."
> 
> If the user selects a PDF file greater than 1MB, display an javascript alert 
> "File uploads may not exceed 1M in file size. Please try again."
> 
> I appreciate any help that can be offered. Thanks in advanced!
> 
> Don Wieland
> 
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Don-

Remember that anything submitted by the client can be spoofed or faked. Ensure 
that your PHP script accounts for Javascript being disabled.

Past that, I'm sure you can get results from somewhere like Stackoverflow.com 
instead of a PHP mailing list.

Thanks,

-Josh
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Re: [PHP] Trapping for PDF Type and file size in a UPLOAD form...

2010-07-29 Thread Ashley Sheridan
On Thu, 2010-07-29 at 09:50 -0700, Don Wieland wrote:

> I am trying to create an UPLOAD form and need to figure a way to only  
> allow PDF files to be selected. Something like:
> 
> 
> 
>   
>accept="application/pdf" />
>   Choose a file to upload:  type="file" />
>   
>   
> 
> 
> 
> It is documented online that I can pass a parameter ACCEPT="applaction/ 
> pdf",  BUT it is not recognized in most browsers.
> 
> It was suggested by someone that I could trap for this using a  
> JAVASCRIPT. Can someone assist with a snippet of javascript code to  
> trap for this for me? This is the end result I need:
> 
> If the user selects a file that IS NOT a PDF file, display an  
> javascript alert "You can only upload PDF files. Please try again."
> 
> If the user selects a PDF file greater than 1MB, display an javascript  
> alert "File uploads may not exceed 1M in file size. Please try again."
> 
> I appreciate any help that can be offered. Thanks in advanced!
> 
> Don Wieland
> 


Perhaps asking on a Javascript list might be better for this particular
question, as this is a PHP list... ;)

Thanks,
Ash
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