Re: [PHP] is their a jobs mailing list?

2002-07-10 Thread sharif

pls... unsubscribe.. me...
pls..and pls again

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The site is called:

tech-temp.com


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RE: [PHP] is their a jobs mailing list?

2002-07-08 Thread César Aracena

 -Original Message-
 From: Rasmus Lerdorf [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 2:31 AM
 To: Peter J. Schoenster
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [PHP] is their a jobs mailing list?
 
 Job postings are fine on this list.  Some people will invariably
gripe,
 but overall people like to see that there are jobs out there involving
 PHP.  And it they don't, well tough.  None of the people who help run
this
 list, including myself have any problems with them.
 
 -Rasmus

[César L. Aracena] Just as a shot in the dark... is it possible for
www.php.net being the sure stop for PHP developers to make available a
new list called job-posting or something like that?

Just a though I had... somehow organized by countries/states? Or maybe
make available a list (i.e. the Announcements list) to offers from PHP
developers?

I mean, instead of seeing many people *HUNTING* for developers, make
them go there and search for the place (i.e. HOUSTON, TX).


 On Sun, 7 Jul 2002, Peter J. Schoenster wrote:
 
  Hi,
 
  I was here first:
 
 

http://www.php.net/manual/en/faq.mailinglist.php#faq.mailinglist.guideli
ne
 
   Before you post to the list please have a look in this FAQ
 
  But I found nothing about a jobs mailing list. I'm really a Perl
 programmer and
  we have jobs.perl.org which has a list which does a really good job.
 
  A person from Houston, TX asked me if I knew of any PHP people in
 Houston.
  I advertise on Google and Overture as a developer for hire.
 
  I don't sugget he post to this list as I'm not sure of the etiquette
and
 I've never
  seen jobs posted to this list; I know they are accepted heartily on
the
  mod_perl list.
 
  Anything simple but effective like this site for PHP?
 
  http://jobs.perl.org/
 
  Peter
 
 
 
 
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RE: [PHP] is their a jobs mailing list?

2002-07-08 Thread Brian McGarvie

I think a job's list would be good too so people can target only those who wish to 
undertake a contract/new position, and also for people to post that they are 
available... that or have an 'independant' site or get one of us to do a subsite on 
php .net :)

I'll do it if it's something that'd be of interest to people...

 -Original Message-
 From: César Aracena [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: 08 July 2002 9:28 AM
 To: PHP General List
 Subject: RE: [PHP] is their a jobs mailing list?
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Rasmus Lerdorf [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 2:31 AM
  To: Peter J. Schoenster
  Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: [PHP] is their a jobs mailing list?
  
  Job postings are fine on this list.  Some people will invariably
 gripe,
  but overall people like to see that there are jobs out 
 there involving
  PHP.  And it they don't, well tough.  None of the people 
 who help run
 this
  list, including myself have any problems with them.
  
  -Rasmus
 
 [César L. Aracena] Just as a shot in the dark... is it possible for
 www.php.net being the sure stop for PHP developers to make available a
 new list called job-posting or something like that?
 
 Just a though I had... somehow organized by countries/states? Or maybe
 make available a list (i.e. the Announcements list) to offers from PHP
 developers?
 
 I mean, instead of seeing many people *HUNTING* for developers, make
 them go there and search for the place (i.e. HOUSTON, TX).
 
 
  On Sun, 7 Jul 2002, Peter J. Schoenster wrote:
  
   Hi,
  
   I was here first:
  
  
 
 http://www.php.net/manual/en/faq.mailinglist.php#faq.mailingli
st.guideli
ne
 
   Before you post to the list please have a look in this FAQ
 
  But I found nothing about a jobs mailing list. I'm really a Perl
 programmer and
  we have jobs.perl.org which has a list which does a really good job.
 
  A person from Houston, TX asked me if I knew of any PHP people in
 Houston.
  I advertise on Google and Overture as a developer for hire.
 
  I don't sugget he post to this list as I'm not sure of the etiquette
and
 I've never
  seen jobs posted to this list; I know they are accepted heartily on
the
  mod_perl list.
 
  Anything simple but effective like this site for PHP?
 
  http://jobs.perl.org/
 
  Peter
 
 
 
 
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RE: [PHP] is their a jobs mailing list?

2002-07-08 Thread Dan Hardiker

I have no idea if this of any use to you guys ... but www.jobserv.co.uk
has a load of IT jobs - but AFAIK they are all for mainland UK. Will be
helpful for brits in any case. You might find a link to their continental
/ american / australian counterparts.

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RE: [PHP] is their a jobs mailing list?

2002-07-08 Thread Balaji Ankem

Will it be not possible to apply for other countries jobs?

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Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 2:12 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: RE: [PHP] is their a jobs mailing list?


I have no idea if this of any use to you guys ... but www.jobserv.co.uk
has a load of IT jobs - but AFAIK they are all for mainland UK. Will be
helpful for brits in any case. You might find a link to their
continental / american / australian counterparts.

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RE: [PHP] is their a jobs mailing list?

2002-07-08 Thread César Aracena

Well, I am interested as long as the Masters let put this *JOB* site
under www.php.net (would be more useful). If you or anybody else is
willing to do such a site, I would like very much to get involved for
learning and contribution reasons.

C.

 -Original Message-
 From: Brian McGarvie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 5:37 AM
 To: PHP General List
 Subject: RE: [PHP] is their a jobs mailing list?
 
 I think a job's list would be good too so people can target only those
who
 wish to undertake a contract/new position, and also for people to post
 that they are available... that or have an 'independant' site or get
one
 of us to do a subsite on php .net :)
 
 
 I'll do it if it's something that'd be of interest to people...
 
  -Original Message-
  From: César Aracena [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: 08 July 2002 9:28 AM
  To: PHP General List
  Subject: RE: [PHP] is their a jobs mailing list?
 
 
   -Original Message-
   From: Rasmus Lerdorf [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 2:31 AM
   To: Peter J. Schoenster
   Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: Re: [PHP] is their a jobs mailing list?
  
   Job postings are fine on this list.  Some people will invariably
  gripe,
   but overall people like to see that there are jobs out
  there involving
   PHP.  And it they don't, well tough.  None of the people
  who help run
  this
   list, including myself have any problems with them.
  
   -Rasmus
 
  [César L. Aracena] Just as a shot in the dark... is it possible for
  www.php.net being the sure stop for PHP developers to make available
a
  new list called job-posting or something like that?
 
  Just a though I had... somehow organized by countries/states? Or
maybe
  make available a list (i.e. the Announcements list) to offers from
PHP
  developers?
 
  I mean, instead of seeing many people *HUNTING* for developers, make
  them go there and search for the place (i.e. HOUSTON, TX).
 
 
   On Sun, 7 Jul 2002, Peter J. Schoenster wrote:
  
Hi,
   
I was here first:
   
   
  
  http://www.php.net/manual/en/faq.mailinglist.php#faq.mailingli
 st.guideli
 ne
  
Before you post to the list please have a look in this FAQ
  
   But I found nothing about a jobs mailing list. I'm really a Perl
  programmer and
   we have jobs.perl.org which has a list which does a really good
job.
  
   A person from Houston, TX asked me if I knew of any PHP people in
  Houston.
   I advertise on Google and Overture as a developer for hire.
  
   I don't sugget he post to this list as I'm not sure of the
etiquette
 and
  I've never
   seen jobs posted to this list; I know they are accepted heartily
on
 the
   mod_perl list.
  
   Anything simple but effective like this site for PHP?
  
   http://jobs.perl.org/
  
   Peter
  
  
  
  
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RE: [PHP] is their a jobs mailing list?

2002-07-08 Thread Brian McGarvie

Yeh sure...

I have worked on a recruitment site for a UK agency.

 -Original Message-
 From: César Aracena [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: 08 July 2002 9:47 AM
 To: Brian McGarvie; 'PHP General List'
 Subject: RE: [PHP] is their a jobs mailing list?
 
 
 Well, I am interested as long as the Masters let put this *JOB* site
 under www.php.net (would be more useful). If you or anybody else is
 willing to do such a site, I would like very much to get involved for
 learning and contribution reasons.
 
 C.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Brian McGarvie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 5:37 AM
  To: PHP General List
  Subject: RE: [PHP] is their a jobs mailing list?
  
  I think a job's list would be good too so people can target 
 only those
 who
  wish to undertake a contract/new position, and also for 
 people to post
  that they are available... that or have an 'independant' site or get
 one
  of us to do a subsite on php .net :)
  
  
  I'll do it if it's something that'd be of interest to people...
  
   -Original Message-
   From: César Aracena [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: 08 July 2002 9:28 AM
   To: PHP General List
   Subject: RE: [PHP] is their a jobs mailing list?
  
  
-Original Message-
From: Rasmus Lerdorf [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 2:31 AM
To: Peter J. Schoenster
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [PHP] is their a jobs mailing list?
   
Job postings are fine on this list.  Some people will invariably
   gripe,
but overall people like to see that there are jobs out
   there involving
PHP.  And it they don't, well tough.  None of the people
   who help run
   this
list, including myself have any problems with them.
   
-Rasmus
  
   [César L. Aracena] Just as a shot in the dark... is it 
 possible for
   www.php.net being the sure stop for PHP developers to 
 make available
 a
   new list called job-posting or something like that?
  
   Just a though I had... somehow organized by countries/states? Or
 maybe
   make available a list (i.e. the Announcements list) to offers from
 PHP
   developers?
  
   I mean, instead of seeing many people *HUNTING* for 
 developers, make
   them go there and search for the place (i.e. HOUSTON, TX).
  
  
On Sun, 7 Jul 2002, Peter J. Schoenster wrote:
   
 Hi,

 I was here first:


   
   http://www.php.net/manual/en/faq.mailinglist.php#faq.mailingli
  st.guideli
  ne
   
 Before you post to the list please have a look in this FAQ
   
But I found nothing about a jobs mailing list. I'm really a Perl
   programmer and
we have jobs.perl.org which has a list which does a really good
 job.
   
A person from Houston, TX asked me if I knew of any PHP 
 people in
   Houston.
I advertise on Google and Overture as a developer for hire.
   
I don't sugget he post to this list as I'm not sure of the
 etiquette
  and
   I've never
seen jobs posted to this list; I know they are accepted heartily
 on
  the
mod_perl list.
   
Anything simple but effective like this site for PHP?
   
http://jobs.perl.org/
   
Peter
   
   
   
   
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Re: [PHP] is their a jobs mailing list?

2002-07-08 Thread Chris Hewitt

As not all work involving PHP need be on a customer's site (the type of 
work that agencies deal with), I'd like to suggest that the site is 
flexible enough to offer PHP work in the broader sense, not just 
on-site contract/employment. E.g. an end customer can post that they 
need a particular piece of work done and ask for tenders/interested people.

Chris

Brian McGarvie wrote:

Yeh sure...

I have worked on a recruitment site for a UK agency.



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RE: [PHP] is their a jobs mailing list?

2002-07-08 Thread Brian McGarvie

Yes... I agree...

I would like formyself and anyothers interested if this was to go-ahead... develop 
similar to but not as deep as and more importantly FREE version of elance or something 
like that...

Can anyone from PHP let us (this thread) know if this is a viable prospect?

 -Original Message-
 From: Chris Hewitt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: 08 July 2002 10:42 AM
 To: PHP General List
 Subject: Re: [PHP] is their a jobs mailing list?
 
 
 As not all work involving PHP need be on a customer's site 
 (the type of 
 work that agencies deal with), I'd like to suggest that the site is 
 flexible enough to offer PHP work in the broader sense, not just 
 on-site contract/employment. E.g. an end customer can post that they 
 need a particular piece of work done and ask for 
 tenders/interested people.
 
 Chris
 
 Brian McGarvie wrote:
 
 Yeh sure...
 
 I have worked on a recruitment site for a UK agency.
 
 
 
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Re: [PHP] is their a jobs mailing list?

2002-07-08 Thread Bret L Conard

Hi all,
I posted a message about a FREE technical job site I just finished as a
direct result of looking for that kind of site and not finding it.
I had asked for feedback and got 1 response about a mis-spelled word (which
I fixed). The site may charge eventually but for now It is free to post
profiles, and Job opportunities.

I  would very much like it to showcase PHP and MySQL as that is what I do,
and The entire site is done in them. I will still welcome any input, but the
site is there and free for use


Thanks
Bret
- Original Message -
From: Peter J. Schoenster [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2002 11:39 PM
Subject: [PHP] is their a jobs mailing list?


 Hi,

 I was here first:

 http://www.php.net/manual/en/faq.mailinglist.php#faq.mailinglist.guideline

  Before you post to the list please have a look in this FAQ

 But I found nothing about a jobs mailing list. I'm really a Perl
programmer and
 we have jobs.perl.org which has a list which does a really good job.

 A person from Houston, TX asked me if I knew of any PHP people in Houston.
 I advertise on Google and Overture as a developer for hire.

 I don't sugget he post to this list as I'm not sure of the etiquette and
I've never
 seen jobs posted to this list; I know they are accepted heartily on the
 mod_perl list.

 Anything simple but effective like this site for PHP?

 http://jobs.perl.org/

 Peter




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Re: [PHP] is their a jobs mailing list?

2002-07-08 Thread Bret L Conard

The site is called:

tech-temp.com


Bret



RE: [PHP] is their a jobs mailing list?

2002-07-08 Thread César Aracena

The only problem I see if projects are thrown to developers, is that the
beginners will have less work... maybe it would be a good idea to divide
it into two categories: 

1) Developers for hire (local  foreign)

2) Projects to Develop (Interested developers *BID* at them)

C.

 -Original Message-
 From: Brian McGarvie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 6:57 AM
 To: PHP General List
 Subject: RE: [PHP] is their a jobs mailing list?
 
 Yes... I agree...
 
 I would like formyself and anyothers interested if this was to
go-ahead...
 develop similar to but not as deep as and more importantly FREE
version of
 elance or something like that...
 
 Can anyone from PHP let us (this thread) know if this is a viable
 prospect?
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Chris Hewitt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: 08 July 2002 10:42 AM
  To: PHP General List
  Subject: Re: [PHP] is their a jobs mailing list?
 
 
  As not all work involving PHP need be on a customer's site
  (the type of
  work that agencies deal with), I'd like to suggest that the site is
  flexible enough to offer PHP work in the broader sense, not just
  on-site contract/employment. E.g. an end customer can post that they
  need a particular piece of work done and ask for
  tenders/interested people.
 
  Chris
 
  Brian McGarvie wrote:
 
  Yeh sure...
  
  I have worked on a recruitment site for a UK agency.
  
 
 
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Re: [PHP] is their a jobs mailing list?

2002-07-08 Thread Peter

I think a mailing list would be a good idea, but the job's always going to
be awarded to the best person, and companies are more likely to go with
someone experienced than someone cheap :o(


César aracena [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
003401c226c0$8dc3a220$2fed0dd1@gateway">news:003401c226c0$8dc3a220$2fed0dd1@gateway...
 The only problem I see if projects are thrown to developers, is that the
 beginners will have less work... maybe it would be a good idea to divide
 it into two categories:

 1) Developers for hire (local  foreign)

 2) Projects to Develop (Interested developers *BID* at them)

 C.

  -Original Message-
  From: Brian McGarvie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 6:57 AM
  To: PHP General List
  Subject: RE: [PHP] is their a jobs mailing list?
 
  Yes... I agree...
 
  I would like formyself and anyothers interested if this was to
 go-ahead...
  develop similar to but not as deep as and more importantly FREE
 version of
  elance or something like that...
 
  Can anyone from PHP let us (this thread) know if this is a viable
  prospect?
 
   -Original Message-
   From: Chris Hewitt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: 08 July 2002 10:42 AM
   To: PHP General List
   Subject: Re: [PHP] is their a jobs mailing list?
  
  
   As not all work involving PHP need be on a customer's site
   (the type of
   work that agencies deal with), I'd like to suggest that the site is
   flexible enough to offer PHP work in the broader sense, not just
   on-site contract/employment. E.g. an end customer can post that they
   need a particular piece of work done and ask for
   tenders/interested people.
  
   Chris
  
   Brian McGarvie wrote:
  
   Yeh sure...
   
   I have worked on a recruitment site for a UK agency.
   
  
  
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RE: [PHP] is their a jobs mailing list?

2002-07-08 Thread César Aracena

Well, if someone offers his/her services lets say in Panama and it's the
only one there, a Company in Panama will try to talk to this person
first... Not the same as in New York City I guess, but it can give work
to many unknown people from across the street... right?

C.

 -Original Message-
 From: Peter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 2:01 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [PHP] is their a jobs mailing list?
 
 I think a mailing list would be a good idea, but the job's always
going to
 be awarded to the best person, and companies are more likely to go
with
 someone experienced than someone cheap :o(
 
 
 César aracena [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
 003401c226c0$8dc3a220$2fed0dd1@gateway">news:003401c226c0$8dc3a220$2fed0dd1@gateway...
  The only problem I see if projects are thrown to developers, is that
the
  beginners will have less work... maybe it would be a good idea to
divide
  it into two categories:
 
  1) Developers for hire (local  foreign)
 
  2) Projects to Develop (Interested developers *BID* at them)
 
  C.
 
   -Original Message-
   From: Brian McGarvie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 6:57 AM
   To: PHP General List
   Subject: RE: [PHP] is their a jobs mailing list?
  
   Yes... I agree...
  
   I would like formyself and anyothers interested if this was to
  go-ahead...
   develop similar to but not as deep as and more importantly FREE
  version of
   elance or something like that...
  
   Can anyone from PHP let us (this thread) know if this is a viable
   prospect?
  
-Original Message-
From: Chris Hewitt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 08 July 2002 10:42 AM
To: PHP General List
Subject: Re: [PHP] is their a jobs mailing list?
   
   
As not all work involving PHP need be on a customer's site
(the type of
work that agencies deal with), I'd like to suggest that the site
is
flexible enough to offer PHP work in the broader sense, not
just
on-site contract/employment. E.g. an end customer can post that
they
need a particular piece of work done and ask for
tenders/interested people.
   
Chris
   
Brian McGarvie wrote:
   
Yeh sure...

I have worked on a recruitment site for a UK agency.

   
   
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Re: [PHP] is their a jobs mailing list?

2002-07-08 Thread Alberto Serra

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Peter wrote:
 I think a mailing list would be ...

I think the basic question is WHERE this thing will be. HOW it works 
becomes a secondary decision, once you know whether it makes sense to 
spend time on the project or not.

IF php.net wants to add up a job-oriented location this makes sense and 
can be discussed in depth. As for myself I can throw in a few ours a day 
of my scarce time (beginning in autumn). It's a nice way for offshore 
companies like ours to make themselves visible so it's totally worth the 
effort.

IF this is going to be the 1 billionth indipendent effort to capture 
audience share you must ask yourself first whether you can reasonably 
expect yourself to be able to position this site into a visible place. 
You hardly will have the money needed to support full-time marketing 
activity (we all already have quite a lot of things to do and tend to 
work on sundays anyway).

So I guess the first question is: do PHP.NET people need/want this thing?

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Re: [PHP] is their a jobs mailing list?

2002-07-07 Thread Rasmus Lerdorf

Job postings are fine on this list.  Some people will invariably gripe,
but overall people like to see that there are jobs out there involving
PHP.  And it they don't, well tough.  None of the people who help run this
list, including myself have any problems with them.

-Rasmus

On Sun, 7 Jul 2002, Peter J. Schoenster wrote:

 Hi,

 I was here first:

 http://www.php.net/manual/en/faq.mailinglist.php#faq.mailinglist.guideline

  Before you post to the list please have a look in this FAQ

 But I found nothing about a jobs mailing list. I'm really a Perl programmer and
 we have jobs.perl.org which has a list which does a really good job.

 A person from Houston, TX asked me if I knew of any PHP people in Houston.
 I advertise on Google and Overture as a developer for hire.

 I don't sugget he post to this list as I'm not sure of the etiquette and I've never
 seen jobs posted to this list; I know they are accepted heartily on the
 mod_perl list.

 Anything simple but effective like this site for PHP?

 http://jobs.perl.org/

 Peter




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