RE: [PHP-WIN] Unable to load dynamic library 'C:\PHP\php_mssql.dll'

2005-04-13 Thread Flint Doungchak
Ross, Have you installed the MS SQL libraries. You need to install a client install of the Microsoft SQL libraries on the machine that PHP is installed. Generally, you can accommplish this by installing Enterprise Manager on that machine or you can install the libraries manually. -Flint -O

[PHP-WIN] HTML (Web Site) Parser

2004-07-09 Thread Flint Doungchak
Hello All, I'm doing a little research. I need to pull some dynamic content off some sites that don't offer XML data of RSS. So I can't go about it that way. I'm wondering, from a theoretical sense, it is possible to write a php application that could log into site, supply the necessary post info

RE: [PHP-WIN] PHP My first function (help)!!!!

2003-08-14 Thread Flint Doungchak
Frank, There's a lot to mention, you might want to look at PHP arithmetic operators for an understanding between strings and integers at: http://www.php.net/manual/en/language.operators.arithmetic.php You might also want to review the function reference at: http://www.php.net/manual/en/function

RE: [PHP-WIN] SQL Server - 255 field size limit in PHP ?

2003-07-01 Thread Flint Doungchak
Dessie, The deal is that the default microsoft libraries that are used as a part of the module (the mssql module) doesn't support varchar beyond 255 chars. Although SQL Server does, since the library doesn't, you're kinda screwed. You could use ADO. I know that the person who works on the SQL s

RE: [PHP-WIN] Error, does anyone see anything wrong?

2003-03-24 Thread Flint Doungchak
I'm not sure, but I think you have to do this on line 19 echo "" . $list->foo . "other text"; -Flint > -Original Message- > From: P.Bijl [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 4:20 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [PHP-WIN] Error, does anyone see anything wrong? >

RE: [PHP-WIN] Php Setup - begginer

2002-11-11 Thread Flint Doungchak
He There Rob, I don't mean to sound short, but you could try the the install.txt manual that comes with the PHP installation. It's in your PHP directly where you unzipped. I've also attached it for you. If you still have problems, let us know and I'm sure someone will be happy to help. Good Lu

RE: [PHP-WIN] Alternate table rows

2002-10-03 Thread Flint Doungchak
Davy, Try using the modulus function to determine if you're in an odd row or an even row. You can then apply the one row color for one row and another for another row. http://www.php.net/manual/en/language.operators.arithmetic.php You'll need to create your look so that it run per row instead

RE: [PHP-WIN] Re: PHP/IIS5/MSSQL shows CGI Header Error

2002-09-27 Thread Flint Doungchak
Does anyone know what the performance difference are for this method? What are the downsides for this method. Thanks, -Flint -Original Message- From: David Redmond [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 27, 2002 8:31 PM To: 'bmw'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [PHP-WIN] Re

RE: [PHP-WIN] PHP MSSQL versions

2002-08-28 Thread Flint Doungchak
gt; > >> Also, you need to make sure that you have the ms_sql client > >> libraries installed on the local machine where php resides. It needs > >> these libraries to connect to SQL server. > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Flint Doungchak [mailt

RE: [PHP-WIN] PHP MSSQL versions

2002-08-27 Thread Flint Doungchak
Bob, >From what I understand, I don't understand it all that much, you need to make sure >that the correct version of PHP runs with the correlated version of the module (for >all modules not just mssql). When you download PHP from php.net (at least when you >download the zipped version), the m

RE: [PHP-WIN] PDF Files...

2002-08-12 Thread Flint Doungchak
Brian, We currently use the PDFlib that requires a license for commercial use. It shoulds like you will also need to use the FDF function in PHP to fill forms. Both links to the documentation do a good job of explaining and providing an explanation as to how to impliment these feature in PHP.

[PHP-WIN] PDF Forms

2002-07-30 Thread Flint Doungchak
Fellow PHPers, We've been working on various dynamic PDF generation things and now, we want to take things step further and place form fields in the PDF dynamically. Does anyone know if we can actually do this? I know that once a PDF is created with form fields (such as with Acrobat), we can p

RE: [PHP-WIN] CGI-Trouble with Win2000

2002-05-24 Thread Flint Doungchak
Jan, We have witnessed the same problem, even outside of frames, and no one has really been able to tell us what the problem is. I have posted several notes and haven't seen anything. We notice that it happens in MS-SQL environments and not in MySQL environments. Can you confirm or deny thi

RE: [PHP-WIN] [N-PHP-R] Help with MySQL

2002-02-28 Thread Flint Doungchak
Hi Nicole, You need to change the columns and alter the specifications (or at least that is how I do it) ALTER table table_name CHANGE column column_name create_definition SO it would look like this ALTER table balh chage column foo foo int(5)unsigned I hope that helps. -Flint -Original

[PHP-WIN] Binaries of 4.1.2

2002-02-28 Thread Flint Doungchak
Hey There, I wondering if anyone out there know if there are binaries of the 4.1.2 release that takes care of the multiple-part/form data security bug in PHP 4.1.0. Is this fixed in 4.1.1. I didn't see any binaries on the php4win site either. I imagine the 4.1.0 and 4.1.1 patches are source code

[PHP-WIN] Large Deployment Information

2002-02-14 Thread Flint Doungchak
Hey guys and gals, I was wondering if any of you know of resouces that would help me plan for a large deployment. I guess I need to know how much hardward I would need to support x users per y time. How much PHP can take and how much SQL server can take, etc. I've never really thought about stuff

RE: RE: [PHP-WIN] Getting PHP to behave with MS SQL Server 7

2002-02-14 Thread Flint Doungchak
Todd, We're running the exact configuration you speak of and I can attest that there are no problems with the module that Franks works on or with PHP. I'd be happy to help, so if you could provide some details, that would help. The first thing I would check is to make sure that the php_mssql.dll

RE: [PHP-WIN] Search expression => SQL WHERE parser?

2002-01-30 Thread Flint Doungchak
Hey there Peter, I think Microsoft comes as a part of SQL server a COM object where you send English syntax and the application will return a SQL query. I think it's called English Query tool or something like that. I don't know if there is something similar for MySQL. Sorry, -Flint -Origi

RE: [PHP-WIN] ISAPI and 4.1 on IIS 5.0

2001-12-19 Thread Flint Doungchak
Andres, There has been a thread with lots of information on this. Search for ISAPI Status via Windows PHP Mailing List. -Flint -Original Message- From: Andres Petralli [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 3:06 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [PHP-WIN] ISAPI an

[PHP-WIN] ISAPI Status

2001-12-14 Thread Flint Doungchak
Hey all, First, I just wanted to thank everyone who has been a part of PHP. I think that's everyone, but especially those that code. We're all very thankful. I was just wanting to see what people are experiencing with the ISAPI module for IIS 5.0 with PHP 4.1.0. I have found it to be stable (o

RE: [PHP-WIN] Redirecting to a new php file

2001-10-24 Thread Flint Doungchak
Header("Location: newlocation.php"); -Original Message- From: Sridhar Moparthy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2001 11:52 AM To: Php-Windows (E-mail); Php-General (E-mail) Subject: [PHP-WIN] Redirecting to a new php file Hi All, Is there any command in PHP that

RE: [PHP-WIN] Fatal Error

2001-10-18 Thread Flint Doungchak
I don't see a spot where the class is initiated anywhere such as. $tpl = new classname; Could this be the problem? Unless the class is saved as a session, this might be the problem. -Flint -Original Message- From: Chris Burwell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, October 18, 200

RE: [PHP-WIN] Cgi Error

2001-10-18 Thread Flint Doungchak
Guitar Man, I haven't been following this post too much, but I'll just quickly hit some points that have messed with me in the past. Make sure that PHP has the rights, IUSER_machine, to read and execute the .ini file and the php4dts.dll. If it can't read those you're screwed. Also, what ever ex

RE: [PHP-WIN] Help on using mail() function

2001-10-17 Thread Flint Doungchak
Have you set your SMTP server in the php.ini file? What error message are you getting? -Flint -Original Message- From: Carlos Alberto Uribe Cano [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 2:05 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [PHP-WIN] Help on using mail() function

RE: [PHP-WIN] Cgi Error

2001-10-17 Thread Flint Doungchak
Guitar Man, Are you getting the error intermittently or all the time? If the later, please refer to the install.txt file that comes with the distribution. It's almost always a permissions or setup problem. -Flint -Original Message- From: Guitar Man [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wedne

[PHP-WIN] Intermittently Occuring CGI Error Update and Info

2001-09-07 Thread Flint Doungchak
dows) because this problem never used to happen. I'm trying to back track and see where it was last stable. Thanks everyone, and I hope this helps provide some insight to the problem. -Flint _____ Flint Doungchak, President Net Solutions, LLC 840 Lawr

RE: [PHP-WIN] Where to find php_mcrypt.dll?

2001-08-16 Thread Flint Doungchak
try www.php4win.de -Flint -Original Message- From: Jeff Howard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2001 12:00 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [PHP-WIN] Where to find php_mcrypt.dll? Does anybody know where to find the php_mcrypt.dll file? It doesn't come with the d

RE: [PHP-WIN] win2000

2001-08-14 Thread Flint Doungchak
Darren, At the risk of sounding a lot of Phill :p, you probably have a permission problem somewhere. Take a look at the install.txt file available in the PHP4.0.x directory. It's pretty helpful. I've included it just in case. -Flint -Original Message- From: Darren [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECT

RE: [PHP-WIN] session ID in URL

2001-08-14 Thread Flint Doungchak
Angie, Check you php.ini file. If the following line is set, then you get the behavior you are talking if two conditions exist. session.use_trans_sid = 1 1. Cookies are off or couldn't be set for some reason. 2. You have started a session of somekind somewhere. -Flint -Original Message---

RE: [PHP-WIN] Re: MSSQL Functions

2001-08-13 Thread Flint Doungchak
Phill, As far as I know, the version shipping with 4.0.6 and much earlier, as early as 4.0.2 (I think), are built for SQL 7.0. Frank, is that true? You can check CVS for the latest extensions. -Flint -Original Message- From: Phillip Bow [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, August 13

RE: [PHP-WIN] How do you step through a database?

2001-08-13 Thread Flint Doungchak
Jeff, If you're using mssql, as I suppose you are, you need to use mssql_fetch_array($result); See the mssql functions on www.php.net. There are a lot of good beginning there. -Flint -Original Message- From: Jeff Howard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, August 13, 2001 12:36 PM

RE: [PHP-WIN] MSSQL Functions

2001-08-13 Thread Flint Doungchak
No, they are supported on teh CGI version. I don't know what you problem is now, but you just need to uncomment the php_mssql.dll line in your php.ini file and make sure that you have the extension. In addition, the MS SQL Client should be installed on the machine in which PHP is running. It need

RE: [PHP-WIN] sessions

2001-08-09 Thread Flint Doungchak
William, It doesn't really mattter, but you could try something like: C:\temp assuming you have temp directory on c. Make sure inetuser_ has write permissions to the directory you specify. -Flint -Original Message- From: William E. T. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, August

RE: [PHP-WIN] The problem of cookie

2001-07-16 Thread Flint Doungchak
Dper, You can't set and retrieve the cookie on the same page. Please see: http://www.netscape.com/newsref/std/cookie_spec.html for an explanation of the specification. You basically have to reload the page before the cookie variable you set is avaiable. Try using sessions if you can. -Flint -

[PHP-WIN] Passing Variables from One Function to Another

2001-07-11 Thread Flint Doungchak
Hey All, I'm feeling pretty dumb right now. Is there a way to pass a variable from one function to another. So for instance, if I have one function that returns x such as function boo() { $foo = 3; return $foo; } And then I have another function and I want to use $foo. function ahh() {

Re: FW: [PHP-WIN] Spell checking w. PHP in Windows

2001-07-06 Thread Flint Doungchak
7;re screwed here. I'm hoping this will open a good discussion as to where the heck the Windows PHP peopo kan lern two spel. :p -Flint _____ Flint Doungchak, President Net Solutions, LLC 840 Lawrence Street Eugene, OR 97401 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Voice +1

RE: [PHP-WIN] Starting Point and Online Tutorials

2001-06-22 Thread Flint Doungchak
Hey Schmuck, Just kidding. Bet you haven't heard that one before. LOL. :p Try http://www.php.net/links.php there's a whole list of resources for tutorials and code examples there. The PHP FAQ also has some comparison between perl and asp, etc. That's at http://www.php.net/FAQ.php -Flint -O

RE: [PHP-WIN] Get the contents of the textarea "as is"

2001-06-21 Thread Flint Doungchak
Ben, When you receive it, try using the nl2br function in PHP. See the manual. -Flint -Original Message- From: Ben Gillam [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2001 8:52 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [PHP-WIN] Get the contents of the textarea "as is" For example, if

RE: [PHP-WIN] Why php4isapi.dll doesn't load as ISAPI filter ???

2001-06-21 Thread Flint Doungchak
Ziggi, Even if you get it to work, which is hard, the module isn't stable anyhow which might explain the behavior you are experiencing. The ISAPI module is not stable on Windows. -Flint -Original Message- From: Ziggi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2001 8:47 AM To: [

RE: [PHP-WIN] PLEASE HELP.

2001-05-22 Thread Flint Doungchak
Well PHPFAN, I think we're all fans, but what the heck. I'm using the same configuration you are. Are you using PHP in CGI mode or ISAPI mode. It doesn't like ISAPI so don't use it. I had similar problems with ISAPI. Also, I think the fdf module that shipped with 4.0.5 might be kind of funny so

RE: [PHP-WIN] SWF-PHP-WINDOWS

2001-05-12 Thread Flint Doungchak
I think the GD and Ming extensions work fine in windows but it doesn't come with the release you find at PHP. Try www.php4win.de. Last time I checked CVS, ming was still being maintained and GD is definately being maintained. -Flint -Original Message- From: dstern [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTE

RE: [PHP-WIN] ISAPI

2001-05-09 Thread Flint Doungchak
Tim, Unfortunately, the ISAPI module just isn't stable on this platform. Sorry. -Flint -Original Message- From: Tim Uckun [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2001 12:10 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [PHP-WIN] ISAPI Has anybody ever successfully ran PHP as an ISAP

RE: [PHP-WIN] PHP 4.05, IIS5 and session...

2001-05-04 Thread Flint Doungchak
Shawn, You php.ini file should have something like: ; Argument passed to save_handler. In the case of files, this is the path ; where data files are stored. session.save_path = C:\temp where C:\temp exists and I_USER_machinename has read/write permissions. It looks like you may have defined th

RE: [PHP-WIN] Required to Trim Variables with MSSQL Module

2001-05-03 Thread Flint Doungchak
the length of the string is 20. - If I add trim($row[0]) I get the length of 4 (which is what i want). Any thoughts? -Flint -Original Message- From: Frank M. Kromann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 9:56 PM To: Flint Doungchak Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:

RE: [PHP-WIN] Required to Trim Variables with MSSQL Module

2001-05-03 Thread Flint Doungchak
Frank, Here's some additional info. The following code snippet does the following: -Original Message- From: Frank M. Kromann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 9:56 PM To: Flint Doungchak Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [PHP-WIN] Required to Trim Variables

[PHP-WIN] Required to Trim Variables with MSSQL Module

2001-05-02 Thread Flint Doungchak
Hi all, I've got a rather iritating problem. I recently moved a site from PHP 3.0.11 to 4.0.5 RC1. It seems, and I have noticed this for a while in other scripts, that variables returned from MSSQL sometimes need to be trimmed with trim() in order to function correctly. Sometimes they won't eva

RE: [PHP-WIN] trouble with cookies

2001-05-02 Thread Flint Doungchak
In your defense, cookies are pretty stubborn, so don't feel bad. What exactly is your problem so we can find out how to help you. -Flint -Original Message- From: r.gelstharp [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 3:05 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [PHP-WIN] trouble

RE: [PHP-WIN] PHP 4 Session

2001-04-20 Thread Flint Doungchak
Hey Arthur, Make sure that in your php.ini file that the save path is defined to someplace that exists and PHP has permissions to write to. I suspect that the c:/temp folder that is the default for php.ini file doesn't exist. You likely have a folder such as c:\temp. You can try that or any other

RE: [PHP-WIN] MSSQL text fields truncation

2001-04-19 Thread Flint Doungchak
Kevin, If you are using 4.0.4pl1 or recent version (4.0.x) of PHP, there is a php.ini directive for MSSQL, for you to set this. ; Valid range 0 - 2147483647. Default = 4096. ;mssql.textlimit = 4096 ; Valid range 0 - 2147483647. Default = 4096. ;mssql.textsize = 4096 Uncomment and set the dir

RE: [PHP-WIN] mail server with php

2001-04-19 Thread Flint Doungchak
Oifik, http://www.php.net/manual/en/ref.imap.php You'll want to look at the URL above and check out the imap functions. You can activate the imap functions by uncommenting the imap functions in your php.ini file. I think the php_imap.dll is included in the 4.04pl1 release. If not, go to http:/

RE: [PHP-WIN] Help PHP inetinfo

2001-04-09 Thread Flint Doungchak
Aaron, >From what I understand, the ISAPI filter still isn't all that great. I have had very poor experience with it and still use the CGI version with no problems. -Flint -Original Message- From: aaron [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 09, 2001 10:27 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTE

RE: [PHP-WIN] Problems with TEXT fields in MSSQL

2001-04-06 Thread Flint Doungchak
Hi Hugo, Depending on what version of PHP you are using and what version of the MSSQL module you are using, you can edit the following lines in the php.ini file to retrieve longer text fields. ; Valid range 0 - 2147483647. Default = 4096. ;mssql.textlimit = 4096 ; Valid range 0 - 2147483647.

RE: [PHP-WIN] FDF and FDFtk on PHP 4.0.5RC1

2001-04-03 Thread Flint Doungchak
Danielle, Please look at PHP bug number #10139 for more information. You can also search the dev-list under fdf for mor information on the problem. -Flint -Original Message- From: Daniel Beulshausen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 1:34 PM To: Flint Doungchak

RE: [PHP-WIN] FDF and FDFtk on PHP 4.0.5RC1

2001-04-03 Thread Flint Doungchak
Ryan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 12:44 PM To: Flint Doungchak Subject: RE: [PHP-WIN] FDF and FDFtk on PHP 4.0.5RC1 How are you supposed to setup php with the FDF toolkit Ryan Conover -Original Message- From: Flint Doungchak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday,

[PHP-WIN] FDF and FDFtk on PHP 4.0.5RC1

2001-04-01 Thread Flint Doungchak
#x27;t know where to go from here. Could someone give me some hints as to why this is occuring. I would really like to use some of the great new session manangement feature available in 4.0.5. Thanks in advance. -Flint _____ Flint Doungchak, President Net S

RE: [PHP-WIN] Mail submisison of form data

2001-03-26 Thread Flint Doungchak
Randall, I'm not sure on this so I may need some correction, in theory, you should be able to put two addrees in the first argument, but I have never gotten it to work. But try this. I might be wrong on the syntax. mail("[EMAIL PROTECTED]","Subject: I'm an idiot","Message body here","From:[EMAIL

RE: [PHP-WIN] Error in CGI Application in IIS

2001-03-24 Thread Flint Doungchak
:41 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [PHP-WIN] Error in CGI Application in IIS I had the same problem but this did not work , could you pleas send me (or the newsgroup) llist of "tricks" you have for this problem almir "Flint Doungchak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> sch

RE: [PHP-WIN] Error in CGI Application in IIS

2001-03-24 Thread Flint Doungchak
James, I don't know if this applies to you, but I recently had the same problem. I assume you are using the CGI version. When you define the mime mapping in IIS, there is a checkbox that says: "Check for File Exists" If you do not have this checked and the file is non-existant, you will get th

RE: [PHP-WIN] What is your choice?

2001-03-20 Thread Flint Doungchak
Yasuo, >From what I understand, the ISAPI module is still not ready for production release. This is true of the PHP 4.01pl1 on IIS4 on NT 4.0. That's my experience as I am still running the CGI version on my box. Others may have more comments. -Flint -Original Message- From: Yasuo Ohgaki

RE: [PHP-WIN] MSSQL Functions

2001-02-07 Thread Flint Doungchak
Toby, Yes, the client is requires because the MSSQL module uses some libraries from the client to function. I don't know which one. If Frank see this, he might be able to give you some detailed insight. I just know it has to be installed. -Flint -Original Message- From: Toby Miller [mai

RE: [PHP-WIN] Formatting Date

2001-02-01 Thread Flint Doungchak
Ben, Check out the date function in the php documentation. There's a lot of formatting option there. Go to php.net and type date in the quick ref field. -Flint -Original Message- From: Ben Cairns [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2001 2:00 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED

RE: [PHP-WIN] How to correctly handle textual form inputs for SQL inserts/updates?

2001-01-16 Thread Flint Doungchak
Hi, I ended up using the setting the use_sybase_quotes in the php.ini file to handle this problem. -Flint -Original Message- From: Romulo Roberto Pereira [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2001 12:32 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mike Flynn Subject: Re: [PHP-WIN] How to c

RE: [PHP-WIN] String Replacement

2001-01-14 Thread Flint Doungchak
lint -Original Message- From: Toby Butzon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2001 7:29 PM To: Flint Doungchak; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [PHP-WIN] String Replacement Seems to me that you've got what you want... If I'm reading you right, you want to keep pl

[PHP-WIN] String Replacement

2001-01-14 Thread Flint Doungchak
Hello all, Hope you all had a nice weekend. Simple question, I think. I would like to find all occurance of: boy or boys and replace it with: girl or girls respectively. My problem is that using the str_replace function like this: str_replace("boy","girl","$string"); turns boys into girls

[PHP-WIN] FDF Cache Question

2001-01-10 Thread Flint Doungchak
correctly inside the browser? Thanks Patrick Shafer [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Flint Doungchak, President Net Solutions, LLC 840 Lawrence Street Eugene, OR 97401 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Voice +1 541 345-7087 Fax +1 541 485-5519 http://www.netsolutionsllc.com

[PHP-WIN] Why Do Forms Expire

2001-01-10 Thread Flint Doungchak
Hi All, Although there are no stupid questions, I have one. Can anyone explain why pages exipre in IE 5.5? For instance, when I click a submit button and then click back, say so people can edit the dang form, the message of Warning: page expired thingy comes up. Is there a way to keep that from