Re: wiki password

2010-10-28 Thread Alexander Burger
On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 04:21:45PM -0400, David N Murray wrote: On Oct 27, Tomas Hlavaty scribed: not sure if I understand it well but it seems to me that your hash becomes the password. In other words, if I find out the hash, I can log in (e.g. using my own client). Yes, I

Re: wiki password

2010-10-28 Thread Tomas Hlavaty
Hi Alex, yes, it's all about prevention;-) Storing plain text passwords is no prevention. But encrypting them creates only an illusion of safety. I didn't suggest encrypting them but using hash+salt! We should not waste our time on irrelevant issues. Whether passwords are encrypted

Re: wiki password

2010-10-28 Thread Tomas Hlavaty
Hi Alex, I personally have bad experience with people storing passwords in plain text. Technically it might not be an issue (after all I think the wiki doesn't need passwords at all) but it is certainly one of those warning Thanks as ever for your input, but your argumentation is quite

Re: wiki password

2010-10-28 Thread Alexander Burger
Hi Tomas, But encrypting them creates only an illusion of safety. I didn't suggest encrypting them but using hash+salt! Yes, of course. That's nitpicking. Please excuse that I didn't pay attention to the terminology. 1) the whole discussion about acknowledging that some data are more

Re: wiki password

2010-10-28 Thread Alexander Burger
Hi Dave, It seems to have been lost somewhere along the way, but my original email indicated I use a one-way hash of the password (a la crypt(), but there Yes, I know. As Tomas already noticed, I mixed up encryption and hashing, though I'm well aware of the differences, and also used MD5 in my