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2019-01-29 Thread Kan-Ru Chen
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2019-01-29 Thread Jean-Christophe Helary
Kan-Ru Chen is the picolisp Debian package maintainer :)

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> On Jan 30, 2019, at 9:05, Kan-Ru Chen  wrote:
> 
> Hello "Kan-Ru Chen"  :-)
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Re: picolisp-mode

2019-01-29 Thread Kan-Ru Chen
Hi there,

I'm not aware this discussion is also happening on the list. Although I'm 
subscribed to the list but I only check it infrequently. Please feel free to CC 
me when there are Debian package related issues : -)

Myself is also a Emacs user so naturally when I packaged picolisp I also 
pre-installed picolisp-mode that comes with the distribution. It's a small file 
but provides good experience for first-time picolisp user. I thought not a 
small portion of picolisp users may also be Emacs users, but I could be wrong ;)

 From what I read so far, it seems there are two or three different picolisp 
major modes?

1. https://github.com/tj64/picolisp-mode
2. https://github.com/flexibeast/picolisp-mode (the melpa)
3. The one comes with the Distribution (the official)

The second one is in melpa and seems providing more features?

Maybe what I can do here are

1. Try to make the official one installed as elpa package thus discoverable in 
`list-packages`
2. If the melpa one can co-exist with the official one, I can also package it 
as `elpa-picolisp-mode` and recommend it from picolisp package. But one of them 
may have to be renamed.

Thoughts?

Kanru

PS. you can also open a bug to the Debian package by running `reportbug 
picolisp`, I'll triage it periodically. 

On Fri, Jan 25, 2019, at 12:46 AM, Jean-Christophe Helary wrote:
> Just for the list info, here is the reply I got from the Debian 
> packager. The good news is that thanks to his work we're going to have 
> even better integration on Debian :)
> 
> JC
> 
> > Begin forwarded message:
> > 
> > From: "Kan-Ru Chen" 
> > Subject: Re: picolisp on Debian (raspbian)
> > Date: January 25, 2019 0:00:08 JST
> > To: "Jean-Christophe Helary" 
> > 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > a- I can see the melpa picolisp-mode fine. I'm not sure what you mean 
> > "invisible"?
> > 
> > b- No, the paredit patch is not applied.
> > 
> > c- picolisp-wiki-mode.el is installed to the 
> > /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/picolisp dir but since we didn't fine a autoload 
> > and auto-mode-alist it does not get automatically loaded.
> > 
> > I have added autoload for picolisp-wiki-mode.el and fixed a 
> > inferior-picolisp loading issue. It will be released to next Debian package 
> > update.
> > 
> > Thanks for reporting bugs!
> > 
> > Kanru
> > 
> > On Wed, Jan 23, 2019, at 3:38 PM, Jean-Christophe Helary wrote:
> >> Sorry to bother you again.
> >> 
> >> There are some issues with the picolisp package, and I wondered if you 
> >> could help me understand how to fix them.
> >> 
> >> 1) the picolisp distribution includes 3 emacs lisp files and 1 patch to 
> >> paredit.el:
> >> 
> >> • picolisp.el
> >> • picolisp-wiki-mode.el
> >> • inferior-picolisp.el
> >> • paredit.el.diff
> >> 
> >> 2) picolisp.el seems to be installed with picolisp on Debian systems
> >> 
> >> 3) there is a separate melpa picolisp-mode that is not visible when 
> >> listing the emacs packages available on melpa
> >> 
> >> My questions are:
> >> 
> >> a- Do you know why is that melpa picolisp mode invisible? Is it because 
> >> it shares the name with the picolisp distribution name?
> >> 
> >> b- is the paredit.el patch applied in Debian when installing picolisp ?
> >> 
> >> c- It doesn't look like picolisp-wiki-mode.el is available when listing 
> >> the emacs packages, it is installed somewhere and launched with a 
> >> separate hook?
> >> 
> >> Thank you in advance.
> >> 
> >> Jean-Christophe 
> >> 
> >> 
> >>> On Jan 21, 2019, at 22:22, Kan-Ru Chen  wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> Hi,
> >>> 
> >>> I'm glad to know the picolisp package works on raspbian :-)
> >>> 
> >>> Cheers,
> >>> Kanru
> >>> 
> >>> On Mon, Jan 21, 2019, at 8:33 PM, Jean-Christophe Helary wrote:
>  Apologies for the mail. I realized that the picolisp-mode that is 
>  available on debian comes included in the picolisp package. Besides, 
>  unlike what I wrote, it is the same as the code on github.
>  
>  Thank you for packaging picolisp for Debian !
>  
>  Jean-Christophe 
>  
> > On Jan 21, 2019, at 20:03, Jean-Christophe Helary 
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > Hello,
> > 
> > It looks like picolisp on raspbian installs a picolisp major mode for 
> > emacs that I could trace to an old version of this package that is 
> > already pretty old (6 years, with a slight code modification 2 years 
> > ago):
> > https://github.com/tj64/picolisp-mode
> > 
> > It looks like the package in debian is outdated though.
> > 
> > Also, there is a much more recent picolisp major mode in Melpa that 
> > also adds access to the documentation, etc.
> > https://github.com/flexibeast/picolisp-mode
> > 
> > I don't seem to find how emacs gets that old picolisp-mode in raspbian, 
> > would you have an idea ?
> > 
> > Thank you in advance
> > 
> > Jean-Christophe Helary
> > ---
> > http://mac4translators.blogspot.com 

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