Re: Wikipedia

2019-01-09 Thread Jakob Eriksson
On 2019-01-09 07:58, Mattias Sundblad wrote: > Hi, > >> "IA-32" is not explicitly supported. It would rather be "C" for pil32 >> and "emu" >> on pil64. But this is probably too confusing for a Wikipedia article ;) > > Yes, most likely :) > >> Other supported architectures (besides "x86-64")

Re: Function similar to Scheme 'foldl'?

2018-10-09 Thread Jakob Eriksson
Add foldl to standard library? > 9 okt. 2018 kl. 20:59 skrev r...@tamos.net: > >> On Tue, 09 Oct 2018 19:31 +0200, Alexander Burger wrote: >>> On Tue, Oct 09, 2018 at 01:21:07PM -0400, John Duncan wrote: >>> Yes, you couldn't reuse the same initial value for a data structure like >>> you would

Re: GitHub sold out to Microsoft

2018-06-05 Thread Jakob Eriksson
> 5 juni 2018 kl. 14:05 skrev Nehal : > > Hello Jakob, > > I believe it's ultimately about principle -> design -> philosophy (of > course security features matter!) of any software/service. Otherwise > why even invest time on picolisp, Java (or similar others) would be > better! While I

Re: GitHub sold out to Microsoft

2018-06-05 Thread Jakob Eriksson
THE selling point of github for individuals and small projects, is the social aspect. And you have to think about what you are securing yourself from. It’s not like GitHub is going to take your code and run. But if you dislike GitHub on principle or because the data mining and the surveillance

Hacker News

2018-05-03 Thread Jakob Eriksson
PicoLisp made hacker news front page. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16980640

Re: AdventOfCode 2017

2018-01-02 Thread Jakob Eriksson
Tank feeder? > 2 jan. 2018 kl. 17:47 skrev r...@tamos.net: > >> On Tue, 02 Jan 2018 17:39 +0200, Mike Pechkin wrote: >> p.s. Author of PicoLisp (Alexander Burger) is free for hiring and >> CV available by request. > > Nice touch, tankfeeder. > > -- > UNSUBSCRIBE:

Re: Announce: PilBox - Building Android Apps in PicoLisp

2017-09-18 Thread Jakob Eriksson
Back when I played with it, it could also run ARM apks via emulation. On 2017-09-18 19:52, Alexander Burger wrote: > On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 07:10:01PM +0200, Jakob Eriksson wrote: >> What went of Android x86? > > Would work if somebody compiles the bin/picolisp bi

Re: Announce: PilBox - Building Android Apps in PicoLisp

2017-09-18 Thread Jakob Eriksson
What went of Android x86? > 18 sep. 2017 kl. 18:19 skrev Alexander Burger : > > Hi Rick, > >> BTW, since I don't have an Android device, I assume that there is a way >> to VM my way to glory and fame in PilBox dev. :) > > The closest thing I can think of is using the

Re: (rand) audit

2017-08-29 Thread Jakob Eriksson
What does that mean? > 29 aug. 2017 kl. 16:47 skrev Mike Pechkin : > > hi all, > > Buildin (rand) function (D. Knuth's book) passed all tests > by Practically Random software (v0.93). > https://sourceforge.net/projects/pracrand/ > > > While testing I've also implement

Re: Floating Point numbers vs Fixpoint numbers

2017-07-15 Thread Jakob Eriksson
Oh, that was quite mundane - as most bugs are when found. :) Huge props to you for finding it so very fast. On 2017-07-15 14:45, Alexander Burger wrote: > On Sat, Jul 15, 2017 at 02:02:00PM +0200, Jakob Eriksson wrote: >> What was it? > > The diff is: > >2460a2461 &

Re: Floating Point numbers vs Fixpoint numbers

2017-07-15 Thread Jakob Eriksson
What was it? On 2017-07-15 13:51, Alexander Burger wrote: > On Sat, Jul 15, 2017 at 12:52:52PM +0200, Alexander Burger wrote: >> I cound not locate the exact location of the bug yet. It is a Heisenbug, >> because >> it only occurs if the garbage collector runs in the right moment. I know this

Re: Compiling to bytecode

2017-07-15 Thread Jakob Eriksson
Still, PicoLisp source, I mean the program you write in PicoLisp, (not the C code) can become quite large depending on your application. We mitigated this, not by storing the "compiled" structures of pointers to pointers. (Although we could have - but that would have been complicated to

Re: Introduction

2017-05-24 Thread Jakob Eriksson
I enjoyed the writeup On 2017-05-24 21:00, Joh-Tob Schäg wrote: > While your long write-up is certainly welcome it is also unnecessary in > my humble opinion. > We gladly welcome you in the community. Just visit the IRC-channel > #picolisp on freenode.net > > > 2017-05-24

Re: picoLisp in custom Buildroot container now enhanced with vip!

2017-05-08 Thread Jakob Eriksson
Now this is great! > 8 maj 2017 kl. 04:34 skrev David Bloom : > > I humbly submit to you an enhanced version of my small picoLisp container. > This comes from a desire to include Alex's vip into the small picoLisp > container for others to use and learn from as I intend

Re: Announce: PilBox - Building Mobile Apps in PicoLisp

2017-03-12 Thread Jakob Eriksson
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13852666 On 2017-03-13 00:20, Jakob Eriksson wrote: > > It made Hacker News! > > http://www.mail-archive.com/picolisp@software-lab.de/msg07233.html > > > On 2017-03-12 17:10, Alexander Burger wrote: >> Hi all, >> >&

Re: Announce: PilBox - Building Mobile Apps in PicoLisp

2017-03-12 Thread Jakob Eriksson
> 12 mars 2017 kl. 20:16 skrev Alexander Burger : > I see no technical reason against it. It is also Arm64. Only that I have no > experience with iOS development. And - the biggest problem perhaps - the > political issues: How to bring such a beast to the apple store?

Re: Announce: PilBox - Building Mobile Apps in PicoLisp

2017-03-12 Thread Jakob Eriksson
Fantastic! On 2017-03-12 17:10, Alexander Burger wrote: > Hi all, > > it is now possible to build Android Apps completely in PicoLisp! > > > I have prepared an environment which lets you run normal PicoLisp (Web-) > applications on Android devices, without the need to write Java code. I'm >

Re: Unclear licensing

2017-03-11 Thread Jakob Eriksson
The middle road is something like: /* Copyright 2017 Author. License: XXX */ or /* Copyright 2017 Author. SPDX-License-Identifier: MIT */ But there is NO REQUIREMENT for such a thing. What I do when incorporating a source file which has no license or copyright information at the top: I

Re: future?

2017-03-10 Thread Jakob Eriksson
> 10 mars 2017 kl. 01:17 skrev : > > Thanks for your comments and insights, Jakob. > I just want to shortly assure you that I really liked your emails and your > participation. Thanks. > Sidenote: > Before GitHub, sourceforge.net was the singular main

Re: in the spirit of RosettaCode...

2017-03-01 Thread Jakob Eriksson
Another clue could be to look at the server end: For instance one in Python https://github.com/KixPanganiban/todo-falcon/blob/master/todo.py AFAIK the whole thing is like a "hello world" for persistence on the server and a very light GUI on the client. On 2017-03-01 08:46, Alexander Burger

Re: Future of PicoLisp?

2017-02-24 Thread Jakob Eriksson
And I would be interested in working on a package or module system similar to "pip" for Python. I must confess that most discussions about namespaces etc on this list is way over my head... however could I be on the right track if I were to assume that using "local" in such modules would be a

Re: future?

2017-02-21 Thread Jakob Eriksson
On 2017-02-21 20:18, andr...@itship.ch wrote: > > Online repositories like https://github.com/taij33n/picolisp and > https://bitbucket.org/mmamkin/picolisp are not mere personal forks, but > up to date clones of the official release at > http://software-lab.de/picoLisp.tgz > Both taij33n and

Re: Future of PicoLisp?

2017-02-20 Thread Jakob Eriksson
On 2017-02-20 19:46, Christopher Howard wrote: > The only tradeoffs with savannah nongnu is it sometimes takes them a few > weeks to approve your project hosting, and they require you to put > licensing information on each code file (a really good idea anyway). > No. That is like saying that

Re: Future of PicoLisp?

2017-02-20 Thread Jakob Eriksson
I would love for the public repo to be on github! I think for many, an open source project does not really exist, unless it is on Github. We should also try to resurrect somehow, the [picolisp] tag on Stack Overflow. Given that it is encouraged to put in official documentation in the form of

Appimage.org

2017-02-08 Thread Jakob Eriksson
Could someone check out http://appimage.org ? It seems to gain momentum now and PicoLisp in that format would make it really easy to use. Best regards, Jakob -- UNSUBSCRIBE: mailto:picolisp@software-lab.de?subject=Unsubscribe

Re: French localization

2017-01-23 Thread Jakob Eriksson
I will cheer on. Salut! > 24 jan. 2017 kl. 08:18 skrev CILz : > > Hello guys, > > I'd be happy to help on that task. If anyone else want to step up on this > let's join our forces. > > Best, > > EricC > > >> Le 24/01/2017 à 07:49, Alexander Burger a écrit : >> Dear

Re: back to the future in bench game

2017-01-17 Thread Jakob Eriksson
This was interesting! Just saw pixielang on HN. > 17 jan. 2017 kl. 22:28 skrev Mike Pechkin : > > Author of http://pixielang.org/ in the city. > Welcome to community > >> On Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 7:10 PM, Timothy Baldridge >> wrote: >> > Check link

Re: Copy A to B, so that no change in A affects B

2016-12-05 Thread Jakob Eriksson
I like how you give both a rationale (of sorts) against, then a demonstration nevertheless of a deep copy. Very friendly! :) > 5 dec. 2016 kl. 08:43 skrev Alexander Burger : > >> On Mon, Dec 05, 2016 at 01:44:53AM -0500, Bruno Franco wrote: >> Is there a function that

Re: FreeBSD 11

2016-10-14 Thread Jakob Eriksson
On 14/10/16 23:03, r...@tamos.net wrote: > On Fri, 14 Oct 2016 22:12 +0200, Jakob Eriksson wrote: >> On 14/10/16 22:01, r...@tamos.net wrote: >>> But picolisp is for experienced programmers[1], a class of people who >>> have no problem building software. >>

Re: FreeBSD 11

2016-10-14 Thread Jakob Eriksson
On 14/10/16 22:01, r...@tamos.net wrote: > > But picolisp is for experienced programmers[1], a class of people who > have no problem building software. Isn't this a bit of a truism. There is nothing in the language itself making it unsuitable for an UN-experienced programmer. Because of

Re: task db example

2016-09-06 Thread Jakob Eriksson
It can apply to docs but a more fitting license might be one if the Creative Commons licenses. CC0 is roughly equivalent to MIT. > 6 sep. 2016 kl. 14:33 skrev Alexander Burger : > > Hi Rowan, > >> How is stuff posted on the wiki copyrighted/licensed? >> Public Domain?

Re: PicoLisp as Femto extension language

2016-09-04 Thread Jakob Eriksson
These questions go a bit over my head, but Femto with Pico has a nice ring to it. :-) > 4 sep. 2016 kl. 19:38 skrev Thorsten Jolitz : > > > Hi List, > recently I found out about Femto, a minimal Emacs implementation in less > than 2k lines of C (including ncurses, though): >

Re: Ubuntu does not update PicoLisp

2016-09-03 Thread Jakob Eriksson
It would be helpful if we could find out how the build process fails. > 3 sep. 2016 kl. 16:04 skrev Alexander Burger : > > Hi all, > > Ubuntu stopped to update PicoLisp in its distribution. I noticed that > the next Ubuntu release (yakkety) still has only PicoLisp 15.11

Re: PicoLisp Blog

2016-08-30 Thread Jakob Eriksson
Good initiative > 30 aug. 2016 kl. 22:41 skrev Anas Drak : > > Basic information on PicoLisp and introductory material: > http://pico-lisp.blogspot.gr/ >

Re: Windows x64 PicoLisp preview

2016-08-17 Thread Jakob Eriksson
This is really good, thank you. On 17/08/16 14:13, Joe Bogner wrote: > I've been working on a port of PicoLisp 64 to Windows. The port is ready > for an early preview for anyone who wants to try it out > > The goal of the initiative is to allow PicoLisp development on Windows. > This may

Re: Best way to learn picolisp

2016-06-08 Thread Jakob Eriksson
It's more like Common Lisp is a derivative of PicoLisp, seriously. :-) So I'd go for pico first, it's easier to understand. > 8 juni 2016 kl. 14:08 skrev Lawrence Bottorff : > > So, what would the best way to learn picolisp be for a total beginner? It > might seem like you

Re: OpenGL and miniPicoLisp

2016-04-25 Thread Jakob Eriksson
are you guys in? > >> On 24 April 2016 at 15:04, Jakob Eriksson <ja...@aurorasystems.eu> wrote: >> IMHO it should be trivial to get SDL working with miniPicoLisp. I'd wrap >> enough of SDL to get a minimal example running and extend it from there. If >> you put i

Re: OpenGL and miniPicoLisp

2016-04-24 Thread Jakob Eriksson
IMHO it should be trivial to get SDL working with miniPicoLisp. I'd wrap enough of SDL to get a minimal example running and extend it from there. If you put it on GitHub I might help out too! :-) > 24 apr. 2016 kl. 09:50 skrev Robert Herman : > > Well, that answers a lot,

Re: OpenGL and miniPicoLisp

2016-04-23 Thread Jakob Eriksson
That support is not going to be widely spread until a few years down the road. Even so, I expect it (Ubuntu on Windows) to be a downloadable server component rather than standard on all Windows client versions. best regards, Jakob On 23/04/16 12:57, Robert Herman wrote: > Thanks, I'll have a

Re: Spring 2016 Lisp Game Jam

2016-04-22 Thread Jakob Eriksson
On 22/04/16 10:27, Robert Herman wrote: > > I am really looking to use miniPicoLisp as the game framework, only leaning > on SDL2.0 or CSFML as the engine underneath to deal with keyboard i/o, > event handling, sound, graphics and networking. I guess maybe it's the same > thing? I'd say I

Re: Spring 2016 Lisp Game Jam

2016-04-22 Thread Jakob Eriksson
g to start on option 1. I > will put it up on Github if I get anywhere next week. Only 7 days and 1 > hour until the LGJ! > > Rob > > PS: I have reposted this, since I left the subject off the last time I > hit Send, and I did not see it on the list. Forgive any unintended &

Re: Spring 2016 Lisp Game Jam

2016-04-20 Thread Jakob Eriksson
Actually, I find that you can statically link most libraries on Linux and that tends to remove almost all distribution problems. best regards, Jakob On 20/04/16 07:57, Alexander Burger wrote: > Hi Rob, > >> HTML5, JS and family come into the picture when you want to distribute or >> share your

Re: Function browser in Emacs

2016-04-09 Thread Jakob Eriksson
sweet! :) On 10/04/16 01:43, Henrik Sarvell wrote: > This is a bit off topic but my new function browser does support > Picolisp out of the box :) > > It might come in handy for all Picolispers on Emacs. > > https://bitbucket.org/hsarvell/list-functions > >

Re: Redesigned Wiki is Live

2016-03-25 Thread Jakob Eriksson
It's good to see the details worked out here. But the main take away for me, is that in today's stylish web landscape, it's important that sites look stylish. And the site now looks stylish. Great and thanks to all involved. best regards, Jakob On 24/03/16 16:34, Erik Gustafson wrote: > Hi

Re: Tractatus Pico-Blaesicus

2016-03-08 Thread Jakob Eriksson
Hey, I love this Tractatus! Very unbiased and fair. (Even acknowledging 2.4!) On 07/03/16 19:25, Alexander Burger wrote: > Dear PicoLisp List, > > let me announce a strange little piece of [code?, documentation?, > pamphlet?] which I wrote up to summarize some of the positions and >

Re: Backspace across wrapped line

2016-03-05 Thread Jakob Eriksson
2016 at 9:02 AM, Jakob Eriksson <ja...@aurorasystems.eu> > wrote: > >> A shotgun approach would be to create a screen editor of sorts, >> with a repl in it. That is probably overkill. >> >> >> >> On 05/03/16 16:18, Alexander Burger wrote: >>&

Re: Backspace across wrapped line

2016-03-05 Thread Jakob Eriksson
A shotgun approach would be to create a screen editor of sorts, with a repl in it. That is probably overkill. On 05/03/16 16:18, Alexander Burger wrote: > Hi all, > > since early versions of PicoLisp I have a problem with the behavior of > terminals. > > It concerns the REPL line editor in

Re: a floating point math library for 64 bit PicoLisp

2016-01-24 Thread Jakob Eriksson
I like it! Back when we needed float, we just used C, but your way is nicer  > 25 jan. 2016 kl. 06:12 skrev Alexander Williams : > > Hi Greg, > > This is quite impressive, particularly for a first time Lisper. Great job! > > I haven't tested it, but the code looks good.

Re: PilMCU is dead - Long live PilOS!

2015-06-19 Thread Jakob Eriksson
Thank you! On 19/06/15 22:16, Alexander Burger wrote: Hi all, I'm happy to announce PilOS - The PicoLisp Operating System! It is a modification of the infamous PilMCU, which unfortunately doesn't seem to get off the ground. So in order not to have wasted all that effort, I decided to

Re: PicoLisp now detected on GitHub

2015-06-17 Thread Jakob Eriksson
This is great! On 17/06/15 17:48, Christophe Gragnic wrote: Hi list. They even spelled it correctly ! https://github.com/github/linguist/pull/2449#issuecomment-112829159 See one of your repos or this one: https://github.com/Microalg/Microalg chri -- UNSUBSCRIBE:

Re: Test - Please ignore

2015-06-01 Thread Jakob Eriksson
It was s hard to resist and now I can't. On 01/06/15 21:52, Rick Hanson wrote: On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 7:51 AM, Alexander Burger a...@software-lab.de wrote: This is a test mail. Please ignore. I feel like being a contrarian today. :) -- UNSUBSCRIBE:

Re: MySQL native C wrapper

2015-04-26 Thread Jakob Eriksson
Good initiative - the more ways to connect, the better, IMHO. On 26/04/15 23:00, Henrik Sarvell wrote: Hi list, I'm announcing this at a very early stage, earlier than I would like to, in case someone else is also thinking about doing a MySQL wrapper, to avoid duplicate work. I'm not doing

Re: New article - Installing local wiki with Kerberos authentication

2015-04-14 Thread Jakob Eriksson
Interesting. Is the server a Windows server or Linux? On 14/04/15 14:19, Mansur Mamkin wrote: Hi all! I'm happy to announce a litle article: Installing local wiki with Kerberos authentication http://picolisp.com/wiki/?localwikikerberos Best regards, Mansur Mamkin -- UNSUBSCRIBE:

Re: Sorry, no repo (Was: Google Code closing)

2015-03-17 Thread Jakob Eriksson
Fair enough! Whatever works best for you is for the best. On March 17, 2015 7:34:09 AM CET, Alexander Burger a...@software-lab.de wrote: Hi Jon, hi all! I'm very sorry, but from now on I won't support any repo for PicoLisp. As ever, the most up-to-date version can be downloaded from

Re: Announce: 7fach BlitzMenu

2015-03-13 Thread Jakob Eriksson
Congratulations! On March 12, 2015 7:29:02 PM CET, Alexander Burger a...@software-lab.de wrote: Hello list, let me announce 7fach BlitzMenu, our first attempt for a public application since 9 years :) It is for gastronomers, restaurants or canteens, to maintain their dishes and beverages in

Re: Google Code closing

2015-03-13 Thread Jakob Eriksson
Github.com is really nice. On March 13, 2015 9:02:10 AM CET, Jon Kleiser jon.klei...@fsat.no wrote: Hi, It looks like PicoLisp will have to move from Google Code: http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/03/google-to-close-google-code-open-source-project-hosting/ Maybe GitHub could

Re: Google Code closing

2015-03-13 Thread Jakob Eriksson
Github.com is more than a repo, it's a community of developers. On March 13, 2015 12:56:32 PM CET, Alexander Burger a...@software-lab.de wrote: Hi all, Alea iacta est :) Mike Pechkin has set up a repo at bitbucket. More next week. ♪♫ Alex -- UNSUBSCRIBE:

Re: Google Code closing

2015-03-13 Thread Jakob Eriksson
And github.com has like, what, 1000 times more developers. :-) On March 13, 2015 4:32:05 PM CET, Alexander Williams a...@unscramble.co.jp wrote: Everyone's comments are valid, but we need to remember: For PicoLisp's user base to grow, lowering barriers to entry should be the first priority.

Re: A PicoLisp native library tutorial

2015-03-03 Thread Jakob Eriksson
Yep. Definitely interesting. On 03/03/15 18:50, Joe Bogner wrote: Nicely done. Thanks for sharing On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 12:16 PM, Henrik Sarvell hsarv...@gmail.com wrote: Nice! On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 5:36 PM, Alexander Williams a...@unscramble.co.jp wrote: Hi list, Some of you

Re: Solaris 10 picolisp 64 build

2015-03-03 Thread Jakob Eriksson
You are not by any chance on a Sparc platform? On 03/03/15 20:57, Rick Hanson wrote: Sorry in advance if you’ve already covered this issue in the past. I’m on Solaris 10; I can build the 32-bit picolisp (3.1.9) with no problem. Then, I go do a (cd src64; make) (which is GNU make btw);

Re: Solaris 10 picolisp 64 build

2015-03-03 Thread Jakob Eriksson
to be thrown into burning inferno where they belong, and I'll go live in a box down my the river. :) Thanks! On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 4:50 PM, Jakob Eriksson ja...@aurorasystems.eu wrote: You are not by any chance on a Sparc platform? On 03/03/15 20:57, Rick Hanson wrote: Sorry in advance

Re: modules?

2015-02-10 Thread Jakob Eriksson
Even if that were so, couldn't we fix this with a convention in the module loader? That is, the loader concatenates all files into one upon loading. Is this crazy talk? On February 10, 2015 9:47:54 AM CET, andr...@itship.ch wrote: Hi Lawrence Nice you're taking part here! You're basically

Re: modules?

2015-02-09 Thread Jakob Eriksson
Could we cook up a convention? On February 9, 2015 6:12:17 PM CET, Henrik Sarvell hsarv...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Lawrence, if you're talking about something like Ruby's gems, then no. On Mon, Feb 9, 2015 at 5:45 PM, Lawrence Bottorff borg...@gmail.com wrote: I'm wondering what you offer in lieu

Re: Java Interoperability - Why bother with Clojure?

2015-02-02 Thread Jakob Eriksson
Interesting development you have there, connecting the JVM to PicoLisp proper. Which makes me wonder about Ersatz PicoLisp though. How would it stand against other JVM alternatives? I know that Ersatz is not as fast as native PicoLisp. But for instance Groovy, is really slow on the JVM. Maybe

Re: Java Interoperability - Why bother with Clojure?

2015-02-02 Thread Jakob Eriksson
On 02/02/15 15:50, Alexander Burger wrote: Hi Jakob, Which makes me wonder about Ersatz PicoLisp though. How would it stand against other JVM alternatives? I know that Ersatz is not as fast as native PicoLisp. But for instance Groovy, is really slow on the JVM. Maybe Ersatz would be fast

Re: A Minimal PicoLisp DB/GUI Application

2015-01-12 Thread Jakob Eriksson
It's a really good example. On January 12, 2015 8:34:08 AM CET, Alexander Burger a...@software-lab.de wrote: Hi all, perhaps this is useful: A Minimal PicoLisp DB/GUI Application http://picolisp.com/wiki/?minDbGui ♪♫ Alex -- UNSUBSCRIBE:

Re: Merry Christmas!

2014-12-24 Thread Jakob Eriksson
Merry Christmas to you too :-) On December 24, 2014 9:37:30 AM CET, Mattias Sundblad mattias@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I'd like to wish everyone on the list a merry christmas and a happy new year. Learning Picolisp is a great and fun challenge for me at least and I'm looking forward to

Re: Minor diff between 32-bit and Ersatz re. redefined

2014-12-11 Thread Jakob Eriksson
On December 11, 2014 at 3:39 PM Alexander Burger a...@software-lab.de wrote: Hi Jon, (dm T (X Y) (=: x X) (=: y Y)) and then repeat the last line, then Ersatz will say # T +Shape redefined, but 32-bit PicoLisp will give no such redefined warning. It may not matter very much, I just

Re: pilMCU progress (slowed)

2014-11-25 Thread Jakob Eriksson
On November 25, 2014 at 11:19 AM Kuba Tyszko k...@lbl.pl wrote: is this actually the whole picolisp converted somehow to a dedicated CPU running on FPGA, or is that an actual CPU emulated (say some kind of ARM), and picolisp compiled for that CPU ? It is a new CPU. I'm just trying to

Re: Strange PicoLisp site

2014-10-27 Thread Jakob Eriksson
someone registered that domain for PicoLisp, then did not renew the fee. When it was expired, the domain was snatched (like most expired domains are) by one of these companies which do nothing else but buy expired domains and resell them. The boilerplate text is just random junk to keep the page

Re: Strange PicoLisp site

2014-10-27 Thread Jakob Eriksson
On October 27, 2014 at 10:20 AM Alexander Burger a...@software-lab.de wrote: Hi Jakob, our mails just crossed ;-) someone registered that domain for PicoLisp, then did not renew the fee. Yes, javuchi messed it up somehow, but it may not be only his fault. It seems to be possible that

Re: MiniPicoLisp Code in ROM

2014-10-08 Thread Jakob Eriksson
Great to read on pilmcu and other updates! On October 8, 2014 at 8:23 AM Alexander Burger a...@software-lab.de wrote: But I feel that it doesn't make sense except for miniPicoLisp. By doing so, you save a few hundred kilobytes in RAM at most, but get the disadvantages of a less flexible

Re: Picolisp Specific Training

2014-09-25 Thread Jakob Eriksson
Maybe Alex could for a price? On September 25, 2014 5:54:02 PM CEST, jerome moliere jer...@javaxpert.com wrote: Hi all, I think that everything is in the title... Do you know if someone supplies such training ? Kind regards -- J.MOLIERE - Mentor/J -- Skickat från min Android-telefon med K-9

Re: Announce: PicoLisp in Hardware (PilMCU)

2014-09-20 Thread Jakob Eriksson
On September 19, 2014 at 7:32 PM Thorsten Jolitz tjol...@gmail.com wrote: Loyall, David david.loy...@nebraska.gov writes: The Internet would like to run this locally. Would you post the verilog source and build files? Or a link to a repository? I think this has the potential to make a

Re: Announce: PicoLisp in Hardware (PilMCU)

2014-09-19 Thread Jakob Eriksson
Fantastic, this is truly great. I have been hoping for years someone would pull this off. Congratulations. best regards, Jakob On September 19, 2014 at 1:39 PM Alexander Burger a...@software-lab.de wrote: Hello List, we are proud to announce PilMCU, the Lisp Machine on a Chip! :) We,

PicoLisp on Raspi

2014-09-19 Thread Jakob Eriksson
On September 19, 2014 at 3:18 PM Joe Bogner joebog...@gmail.com wrote: This might be off base, but is it within the realm of possibility to run PilMCU on a raspberry pi now or in the future? That's an accessible piece of hardware that many people already have (myself included). These people

Re: try picolisp

2014-08-28 Thread Jakob Eriksson
Maybe not with Emscripten. On August 28, 2014 7:41:12 PM CEST, Mike Pechkin mike.pech...@gmail.com wrote: hi, Is it hard to implement minimalist version of minipicolisp in browser ? Like http://tryclj.com/ ? Mike -- Skickat från min Android-telefon med K-9 E-post. Ursäkta min fåordighet.

Re: Pico/Ersatz diffs: chain, link, yoke

2014-06-25 Thread Jakob Eriksson
You would be mad to use Erzats for performance anyway, so I'd wish for correctness or similarity. It would also serve as a documentation of what it takes to implement a full PicoLisp. Sort of a portable spec. On June 25, 2014 4:45:12 PM CEST, Alexander Burger a...@software-lab.de wrote: Hi

Re: Regarding the implementations of PicoLisp

2014-05-14 Thread Jakob Eriksson
Heartbleed vs custom memory allocator is a false dichotomy. The problem with OpenSSL was a bad development model. A security library should have a development model focusing on security. Security is a process and taking responsibility for design decisions and committing to them, not letting

Re: Regarding the implementations of PicoLisp

2014-05-14 Thread Jakob Eriksson
On May 14, 2014 at 4:03 PM andr...@itship.ch wrote: PicoLisp can and might be used to implement security applications. Of course. So better use standard proved OS mechanisms and have some more initial effort to get it running, I think. The standard proved OS mechanism are all different

Re: Regarding the implementations of PicoLisp

2014-05-14 Thread Jakob Eriksson
Yes, but it would help if the allocator cleared returned memory if I recall correctly. On May 14, 2014 6:40:59 PM CEST, Alexander Burger a...@software-lab.de wrote: Hi Jakob, Veering off topic here ... ... The heartbleed bug wouldn't have had such a devastating effect if they wouldn't

Re: Regarding the implementations of PicoLisp

2014-05-14 Thread Jakob Eriksson
Sorry for ranting the list again but... On 2014-05-14 19:17, andr...@itship.ch wrote: true, but then the leaking memory wouldn't have been restricted on critical data like private keys and password traffic. so more probing would have been necessary to gain exploitable data. which of course

Re: Regarding the implementations of PicoLisp

2014-05-12 Thread Jakob Eriksson
And this is an excellent example of PicoLisp going the extra mile. Instead of handling C as the lowest abstraction, going to the actual machine. I imagine other interpreted languages could be faster if designed with this attention to detail. On 12 maj 2014 08:24:13 CEST, Alexander Burger

Re: Would a logging framework make sense for PicoLisp

2014-04-11 Thread Jakob Eriksson
If it is derivative, you should ask. On April 11, 2014 7:07:25 PM CEST, Henrik Sarvell hsarv...@gmail.com wrote: I feel like I have changed the original now to such an extent that I don't have to ask anymore :-) It feels like a derivative work. However, attribution is kept in the source:

Re: Programming can be futuristic

2013-10-24 Thread Jakob Eriksson
Well, if PicoLisp was ported to http://zerovm.org/wiki/The_Cloud_Hypervisor then we'd definitely be there. Thing is, I think it might be a good fit! On 2013-10-24 06:23, Henrik Sarvell wrote: This guy has obviously not discovered PicoLisp yet :-)

Re: A few quick emu/pil timings

2013-09-24 Thread Jakob Eriksson
Bikeshedding! Debian. Henrik Sarvell hsarv...@gmail.com skrev: If VM can't be avoided isn't Gentoo more minimal than Arch? http://www.gentoo.org/ On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 7:05 PM, Thorsten Jolitz tjol...@gmail.com wrote: Mansur Mamkin mmam...@mail.ru writes: in case of Windows don't forget

Re: Great canvas article and demo

2013-09-16 Thread Jakob Eriksson
On September 16, 2013 at 9:30 AM Tomas Hlavaty t...@logand.com wrote: 3) I guess most of the overhead of the http request is probably establishing the connection. My bett is that it doesn't really matter if you send 1kB or 5kB of data. For example, if I run this It might matter,

good morning

2013-09-07 Thread Jakob Eriksson
so good to you see activity this early in the weekend. :) -- UNSUBSCRIBE: mailto:picolisp@software-lab.de?subject=Unsubscribe

Re: Are PicoLisp's coroutine stacks legal?

2013-05-20 Thread Jakob Eriksson
Wow, I just have to comment this. Amiga + picolisp in the same post = awesome. /me crawls back under rock On May 20, 2013 at 11:13 PM Jorge Acereda Maciá jacer...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I can only say that under AmigaOS it would certainly be a no-no: -- UNSUBSCRIBE:

Re: Segmentation fault (Was: Subscribe)

2013-05-17 Thread Jakob Eriksson
Yes, the FAQ should definitely elaborate on that, since people are used to that interpreted languages can not induce segfaults on their own. Also explain perhaps that the interpreter could check all C calls against a white list, but it would take a lot of time Alexander Burger

Re: Ersatz Picolisp misc interop libraries update

2013-03-09 Thread Jakob Eriksson
This is so awesome, getting access to all Java libraries etc from PicoLisp :) PԔ � j)mX�����zV�u�.n7�

Re: Conrad Barsky's Land of Lisp, in PicoLisp: wizards-game.lisp -

2013-02-20 Thread Jakob Eriksson
Plain awesome. So short!

Re: Ersatz PicoLisp stuff

2013-02-20 Thread Jakob Eriksson
I feel we are getting closer to where PicoLisp could be used in Java for real.

Re: Token read

2012-11-09 Thread Jakob Eriksson
On November 9, 2012 at 6:13 PM Alexander Burger a...@software-lab.de wrote: [read changes] Any objections? On the contrary! Not that I am a daily PicoLisp user these days, but I remember stumbling over that once and being confused. The proposed behavior is better. best regards, Jakob --

Fast vendor response time (Was: Re: too many open files?)

2012-09-05 Thread Jakob Eriksson
Talk about fast vendor response time! On September 5, 2012 at 9:34 AM Alexander Burger a...@software-lab.de wrote: Opps, I can reproduce it! And I found this is a bug in the 'dir' -- UNSUBSCRIBE: mailto:picolisp@software-lab.de?subject=Unsubscribe

Re: New PicoLisp-Wiki major mode for GNU Emacs

2012-09-01 Thread Jakob Eriksson
Awesome Thorsten Jolitz tjol...@googlemail.com skrev: Hi List, I just published a new GNU Emacs major mode for editing files with the PicoLisp-Wiki syntax. You can either clone the gitrepo or download the el file here: ,--- |

Re: PicoLisp Bible - Call for Papers

2012-07-19 Thread Jakob Eriksson
Great initiative! I will try to put something short together on how portable the very core of (mini)PicoLisp is. No promise though, but it would be fun. best regards, Jakob -- UNSUBSCRIBE: mailto:picolisp@software-lab.de?subject=Unsubscribe

Re: Ubuntu mess

2012-05-29 Thread Jakob Eriksson
On May 29, 2012 at 2:04 PM Alexander Burger a...@software-lab.de wrote: I've posted a bug report, asking for the upgrade, in the middle of March: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/picolisp/+bug/956731 The report mentions that the bug is filed against Ubuntu in general and not

Re: Ubuntu mess

2012-05-29 Thread Jakob Eriksson
I am not sure, but I suspect that the easiest way to get this fixed in Ubuntu 12.04 is create a point release for 3.0.8.10, for instance replacing 3.0.8.10-1 with 3.0.8.10-2 or something, with a minimal fix which only fixes the dynamic loader issue. Now, I don't know the differences between

Re: Ubuntu mess

2012-05-29 Thread Jakob Eriksson
On May 29, 2012 at 4:34 PM Alexander Burger a...@software-lab.de wrote: So let's wait a little if the upgrade will happen now as the bug is finally confirmed. No, I am pretty sure that is not affecting it at all. I think you as the bug reporter need to do what the janitor code said: To

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