Re: PicoLisp is DEAD (Was: PicoLisp and its (lack of) libraries)

2012-01-25 Thread Meadowlark technology
* A message from one of the silent * I have just used Picolisp (PL) to write a tiny application that generates web sites from xml files. It was great fun, and I use it in my business. I am profoundly impressed with the power of the language. I agree that picolisp can he hard to follow when you

Re: PicoLisp is DEAD (Was: PicoLisp and its (lack of) libraries)

2012-01-25 Thread Henrik Sarvell
I never came up with that DEAD headline and have no idea who did and don't agree with it. Let's take Clojure as an example again, no one in their right mind would think that that language would have the adoption it has if it wasn't based on Java with easy interoperability to get at all that

Re: PicoLisp is DEAD (Was: PicoLisp and its (lack of) libraries)

2012-01-24 Thread Doug Snead
mentioned earlier, with a little jni C glue to hold it together. Cheers, Doug --- On Mon, 1/23/12, Jakob Eriksson ja...@aurorasystems.eu wrote: From: Jakob Eriksson ja...@aurorasystems.eu Subject: Re: PicoLisp is DEAD (Was: PicoLisp and its (lack of) libraries) To: picolisp@software-lab.de

Re: PicoLisp is DEAD (Was: PicoLisp and its (lack of) libraries)

2012-01-24 Thread Alexander Burger
Hi Doug, After many merry rounds of compilation and discovery, it seems that the ndk-build's compiler -falign-functions[=n] and friends align functions relative to this option, but off by one (+1, or is that just |1?).;-) Weird indeed. Can't believe ;-) In pico.h, sadly, I besmirched the

Re: PicoLisp is DEAD (Was: PicoLisp and its (lack of) libraries)

2012-01-23 Thread Jakob Eriksson
On January 23, 2012 at 2:02 PM Jon Kleiser jon.klei...@usit.uio.no wrote:   I like having the possibility to make use of Java solutions (e.g. the   Swing GUI) from Ersatz PicoLisp, but please don't tell anyone that it   allows you to integrate with any legacy system before we have done any  

Re: PicoLisp is DEAD (Was: PicoLisp and its (lack of) libraries)

2012-01-23 Thread Jon Kleiser
Hi again, There were two functions in the Image_Noise example that I should have known better: 'javac' and 'task'. Now I've found both of them in picoLisp/ersatz/lib.l, along with a bunch of other functions that I'm sure would be nice to know. It shouldn't be too hard to figure out what

Re: PicoLisp is DEAD (Was: PicoLisp and its (lack of) libraries)

2012-01-23 Thread Doug Snead
--- On Mon, 1/23/12, Jakob Eriksson ja...@aurorasystems.eu wrote: The Java version opens up the path to Android jobs - and I have an impression that those are still a kind of Wild West. I have a (slightly hacked) version of miniPicoLisp running as an android native library as a proof of

Re: PicoLisp is DEAD (Was: PicoLisp and its (lack of) libraries)

2012-01-22 Thread Randall Dow
I have to agree with Alex here. This language has its place and is very useful in that place. I am currently doing embedded in C, and have no choice about what to use. But I have to say, I in very much in favor of the succinctness of PicoLisp and its ability to link with any library. If someone,

Re: PicoLisp is DEAD (Was: PicoLisp and its (lack of) libraries)

2012-01-22 Thread Yiorgos Adamopoulos
No it is not dead to me. At least I do not want it dead. But in online communities the1-9-90 rule applies: 1% is the major contributors 9% are contributing from time to time 90% are mostly silent (like me) With 70 people on the list the numbers seem appropriate. FWIW, I like PicoLisp the way it

Re: PicoLisp is DEAD (Was: PicoLisp and its (lack of) libraries)

2012-01-22 Thread Rudy Hagedorn
Hello. I am new to PL. I come from trying out lots of library paradises where you need to load 100MB of background noise into RAM to print 'hello world' on the screen. My aim is to learn and use lisp for smart small data base driven applications within a little browser window. Yesterday I

Re: PicoLisp is DEAD (Was: PicoLisp and its (lack of) libraries)

2012-01-22 Thread Peter Fischer
Am 22.01.2012 08:42, schrieb Alexander Burger: OK, I understand. The language is not useful or usable, and the Community (I count 70 members in this list) is silent. Hi Alexander! Hm, for an April 1st joke it is too early!? Bad mood day due to ugly wet weather in upper bavaria? ;) Mailing

Re: PicoLisp is DEAD (Was: PicoLisp and its (lack of) libraries)

2012-01-22 Thread Jeronimo Pellegrini
You may count me as silent but very happy with PicoLisp! I use it mostly for automating tasks in Unix systems (particularly fun in small devices running Linux). J. On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 08:42:38AM +0100, Alexander Burger wrote: OK, I understand. The language is not useful or usable, and

Re: PicoLisp is DEAD (Was: PicoLisp and its (lack of) libraries)

2012-01-22 Thread cle-picolisp
Alexander Burger schrieb: OK, I understand. The language is not useful or usable, and the Community (I count 70 members in this list) is silent. Oh oh ... Alex, your conclusion is not necessary true. If most are silent that has not to mean, they conclude with Henrik. At least me, if I do

Re: PicoLisp is DEAD (Was: PicoLisp and its (lack of) libraries)

2012-01-22 Thread José Romero
On Sun, 22 Jan 2012 22:58:19 -0200 Jeronimo Pellegrini j.pellegr...@randomnode.info wrote: You may count me as silent but very happy with PicoLisp! I use it mostly for automating tasks in Unix systems (particularly fun in small devices running Linux). J. On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at

PicoLisp is DEAD (Was: PicoLisp and its (lack of) libraries)

2012-01-21 Thread Alexander Burger
OK, I understand. The language is not useful or usable, and the Community (I count 70 members in this list) is silent. -- UNSUBSCRIBE: mailto:picolisp@software-lab.de?subject=Unsubscribe