Re: wiki password

2010-10-28 Thread Tomas Hlavaty
Hi Alex, >> yes, it's all about prevention;-) Storing plain text passwords is no >> prevention. > > But encrypting them creates only an illusion of safety. I didn't suggest encrypting them but using hash+salt! > We should not waste our time on irrelevant issues. Whether passwords > are encrypte

Re: wiki password

2010-10-28 Thread Tomas Hlavaty
Hi Alex, >> I personally have bad experience with people storing passwords in >> plain text. Technically it might not be an issue (after all I think >> the wiki doesn't need passwords at all) but it is certainly one of >> those warning > > Thanks as ever for your input, but your argumentation is

Re: wiki password

2010-10-28 Thread Alexander Burger
Hi Tomas, > > But encrypting them creates only an illusion of safety. > I didn't suggest encrypting them but using hash+salt! Yes, of course. That's nitpicking. Please excuse that I didn't pay attention to the terminology. > 1) the whole discussion about acknowledging that some data are more >

Re: wiki password

2010-10-28 Thread Alexander Burger
Tomas, just to make it clear (again, as I already wrote this in this thread): It would b extremely simple to "hash" the passwords. Just call something like (native "libcrypto.so" "MD5" '(B . 16) Str (length Str) '(NIL (16))) in two places (where the passwords are stored, and where they are c

Re: wiki password

2010-10-28 Thread David N Murray
On Oct 28, Alexander Burger scribed: > On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 04:21:45PM -0400, David N Murray wrote: > > Or simply create an account for yourself and analyze the encryption of > your own password in the client. As the client needs the full > information, including the encryption keys, you might

Re: wiki password

2010-10-28 Thread Alexander Burger
Hi Dave, > It seems to have been lost somewhere along the way, but my original email > indicated I use a one-way hash of the password (a la crypt(), but there Yes, I know. As Tomas already noticed, I mixed up encryption and hashing, though I'm well aware of the differences, and also used MD5 in m