RE: Another stack based CPU: J1

2015-04-15 Thread Loyall, David
  The J1 is probably close to the simplest possible useful CPU.
  Alexander, do you agree with that statement?  Is the J1 the same as pil?
 
 I see no similarities at all. Also, PilMCU doesn't strive particularly for 
 simplicity
 (the PicoLisp *language* does). It is rather complex, with built-in database
 and garbage collection.

Ohh..  Of course!

Thank you!


Re: Another stack based CPU: J1

2015-04-15 Thread Alexander Burger
Hi David,

thanks for the info!

 Today on HN I read about a tiny stack-based CPU called J1.
 This is its homepage: http://www.excamera.com/sphinx/fpga-j1.html and here is 
 a more formal description: http://www.excamera.com/files/j1.pdf

As Geo said, there have been Forth CPUs around a long time. I saw the
first ones around 20 years ago. Forth is a very simple virtual machine,
which maps perfectly to hardware.


   The J1 is probably close to the simplest possible useful CPU.
 Alexander, do you agree with that statement?  Is the J1 the same as pil?

I see no similarities at all. Also, PilMCU doesn't strive particularly
for simplicity (the PicoLisp *language* does). It is rather complex,
with built-in database and garbage collection.

♪♫ Alex
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Another stack based CPU: J1

2015-04-14 Thread Loyall, David
Today on HN I read about a tiny stack-based CPU called J1.

This is its homepage: http://www.excamera.com/sphinx/fpga-j1.html and here is a 
more formal description: http://www.excamera.com/files/j1.pdf

Here is the quote that made me bring this topic to the picolisp mailing list:

The J1 is probably close to the simplest possible useful CPU.

Alexander, do you agree with that statement?  Is the J1 the same as pil?

Are there any neat tricks James Bowman used that could be useful in pilmcu?

Cheers,
--Dave

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Re: Another stack based CPU: J1

2015-04-14 Thread George Orais
Hi Dave,
Thanks for sharing this info :)
I think i met something similar of this before, it was also a Forth machine And 
it was developed by the Forth language designer Charles Moore. I think it was 
called GreenArrays something?
Btw the pilmcu progress got a bit slow due to some other urgent works to be 
done back at the office. But it still going on just in slow pace, will update 
everyone once i can provide a better news, cheers!

BR,Geo
 


 On Tuesday, April 14, 2015 10:49 PM, Loyall, David 
david.loy...@nebraska.gov wrote:
   

 Today on HN I read about a tiny stack-based CPU called J1.

This is its homepage: http://www.excamera.com/sphinx/fpga-j1.html and here is a 
more formal description: http://www.excamera.com/files/j1.pdf

Here is the quote that made me bring this topic to the picolisp mailing list:

    The J1 is probably close to the simplest possible useful CPU.

Alexander, do you agree with that statement?  Is the J1 the same as pil?

Are there any neat tricks James Bowman used that could be useful in pilmcu?

Cheers,
--Dave

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