Re: Java Interoperability - Why bother with Clojure?

2015-02-02 Thread Jakob Eriksson

On 02/02/15 15:50, Alexander Burger wrote:
> Hi Jakob,
>
>> Which makes me wonder about Ersatz PicoLisp though.
>> How would it stand against other JVM alternatives? I know that Ersatz is
>> not as
>> fast as native PicoLisp. But for instance Groovy, is really slow on the JVM.
>> Maybe Ersatz would be fast enough for serious work too, if Groovy is.
> But why bother to use Ersatz at all? And not the real thing?
>
>

For using with Java? It depends. If I had a say of the deployment stack,
yes, then why not use the real thing.
I would choose native PicoLisp in a heartbeat!
This bridge you developed is really good for mixing
native PicoLisp performance with Java ecosystem.

But sometimes the programmers don't have anything to say about
how the servers are run - they just are told that "we deploy the JVM
with this and this version". They can use any language, just as long
as that language works *inside* the JVM.
In those instances, alternatives such as Ersatz are really nice.

(By the way I really meant to say Clojure, not Groovy, but it doesn't
matter. Ersatz could be a competitor to all the JVM languages.)

best regards,
Jakob


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Re: Java Interoperability - Why bother with Clojure?

2015-02-02 Thread Alexander Burger
Hi Jakob,

> Which makes me wonder about Ersatz PicoLisp though.
> How would it stand against other JVM alternatives? I know that Ersatz is
> not as
> fast as native PicoLisp. But for instance Groovy, is really slow on the JVM.
> Maybe Ersatz would be fast enough for serious work too, if Groovy is.

But why bother to use Ersatz at all? And not the real thing?

♪♫ Alex
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Re: Java Interoperability - Why bother with Clojure?

2015-02-02 Thread Jakob Eriksson
Interesting development you have there, connecting the JVM to PicoLisp
proper.

Which makes me wonder about Ersatz PicoLisp though.
How would it stand against other JVM alternatives? I know that Ersatz is
not as
fast as native PicoLisp. But for instance Groovy, is really slow on the JVM.
Maybe Ersatz would be fast enough for serious work too, if Groovy is.



On 02/02/15 15:11, Alexander Burger wrote:
> Hi all!
>
> A new library to call Java code from/to PicoLisp:
>
>http://picolisp.com/wiki/?javaCode
>
> ♪♫ Alex

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Java Interoperability - Why bother with Clojure?

2015-02-02 Thread Alexander Burger
Hi all!

A new library to call Java code from/to PicoLisp:

   http://picolisp.com/wiki/?javaCode

♪♫ Alex
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