Re: PicoLisp Website

[Henrik Sarvell]

Nice stuff, I like the copy too! :-)

On Fri, Dec 18, 2015 at 8:50 PM, Rick Hanson  wrote:

> Thanks, Christophe, for putting this up. I'm now like AW, I'm only on the
> phone.
>
> Anyway, first thought upon loading the site: Star Trek  :)  I love
> it!  Great job!
> On Dec 18, 2015 1:49 PM, "Christophe Gragnic" 
> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, Dec 18, 2015 at 7:17 PM, Erik Gustafson
>>  wrote:
>> > Sure thing! I'll send a few screenshots when I'm back at my computer in
>> a
>> > couple hours.
>>
>> I brutally «saved as» a local version then uploaded it here:
>>
>> http://fezzik.free.fr/picolisp/
>>
>>
>> chri
>>
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Re: PicoLisp Website

[Alexander Williams]

Is there a way to see this without cloning the repo and running it locally?
(i'm on mobile right now).

Perhaps someone can attach a screenshot or host a live version somewhere?

Thanks!

AW
On Dec 13, 2015 3:25 AM, "Erik Gustafson" <erik.d.gustaf...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> My dearest fellow PicoLispers,
>
> I should have shared this two months ago! I don't know why I didn't.
> Anyway, I think PicoLisp is the coolest and wanted to give something back
> to the community.
>
> I made a functional mock-up of a possible new homepage for PicoLisp, which
> can be found here:
>
> https://github.com/erdg/picolisp-website
>
> I set out to build something that reflected the awesomeness of the
> language as I see it, while respecting everything that came before me. The
> logo is just a different take on the existing logo.  And you'll recognize a
> lot of the writing from various PicoLisp sources and tutorials; I grabbed
> the bits that I thought most effectively described what PicoLisp is about,
> and weaved them together with some of my own prose. I think it's fun read
> (albeit a little verbose) that would inspire newcomers to give PicoLisp
> more of the attention it deserves.
>
> It was built entirely with PicoLisp, love, and CSS. No frameworks, no
> extra JS (or BS, for that matter). I tried to keep the CSS as minimal and
> modular as possible - just a few tools and utils that I think fit very well
> into the PicoLisp philosophy.
>
> Do try resizing your browser! It's pretty responsive. Not bad for my first
> foray into the world of frontend design :)
>
> Now, I will admit that this falls more towards the designer side of the
> developer/designer spectrum of websites. It's basically a PicoLisp version
> of the Haskell website at this point. I'm not entirely sold on it myself
> and the 'Try It' section is pretty corny, but I wanted something concrete
> to work towards and this is what came of that effort.
>
> I'm more than happy to answer any questions about the code or design
> choices. Even more, I'd love to hear what you all think! What do you like?
> Anything that doesn't sit well?
>
> Frankly, my end game is to inspire the community to begin work on a new
> PicoLisp website. PicoLisp has come so, so far in the last year! It's
> spreading to more architectures, embedded devices, more people are joining
> the mailing list than ever, writing and sharing software. I love every
> second of it! So I wanted to give you all something to react to, to start
> the conversation.
>
> I had a blast creating this, and I hope that comes through!
>
>
> Peace, love and PicoLisp,
> Erik
>
>
>

Re: PicoLisp Website

[Erik Gustafson]

Sure thing! I'll send a few screenshots when I'm back at my computer in a
couple hours.

Re: PicoLisp Website

[Rick Hanson]

Thanks, Christophe, for putting this up. I'm now like AW, I'm only on the
phone.

Anyway, first thought upon loading the site: Star Trek  :)  I love it!
Great job!
On Dec 18, 2015 1:49 PM, "Christophe Gragnic" 
wrote:

> On Fri, Dec 18, 2015 at 7:17 PM, Erik Gustafson
>  wrote:
> > Sure thing! I'll send a few screenshots when I'm back at my computer in a
> > couple hours.
>
> I brutally «saved as» a local version then uploaded it here:
>
> http://fezzik.free.fr/picolisp/
>
>
> chri
>
> --
>
> http://profgra.org/lycee/ (site pro)
> http://delicious.com/profgraorg (liens, favoris)
> https://twitter.com/profgraorg
> http://microalg.info (langage de programmation pédagogique)
> http://expressions.club/ (structure des expressions mathématiques)
> --
> UNSUBSCRIBE: mailto:picolisp@software-lab.de?subjectUnsubscribe
>

Re: PicoLisp Website

[Christophe Gragnic]

On Fri, Dec 18, 2015 at 7:17 PM, Erik Gustafson
 wrote:
> Sure thing! I'll send a few screenshots when I'm back at my computer in a
> couple hours.

I brutally «saved as» a local version then uploaded it here:

http://fezzik.free.fr/picolisp/


chri

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Re: PicoLisp Website

[Jon Kleiser]

Hi Vidyuth Kini,

Re. comparable sites: IMO the Ruby page is the best design of the ones you 
mention. To me, the Racket page seems cluttered.

/Jon

> On 14. Dec, 2015, at 09:31, Vidyuth Kini  wrote:
> 
> Hi Erik,
> 
> Great work on the site. I definitely like the new logo. here are my comments:
> 
> 1. Logo is nice, it could be spruced up, like the racket lang logo with 
> shadows etc
> 
> 2. Too much real estate is lost on the first half on the page, if you look at 
> a comparable site, 
> 
> http://racket-lang.org/
> 
> you can see that the logo, title, byline and navigation are all stuck at the 
> top, giving more room for explanatory wordings on the page. 
> 
> I am not sure what you think of that but it is an idea. 
> 
> I think ruby ( https://www.ruby-lang.org/en/ ) does a good job of this too. 
> so does rust ( https://www.rust-lang.org/ ) 
> & Elixir ( http://elixir-lang.org/ )
> 

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Re: PicoLisp Website

[Erik Gustafson]

> > I tried to investigate how you embed the REPL but no luck.
> > Could you explain please? Are the exprs executed on the server?!?
>
> It is the function 'try-it-repl', which is a modification of the 'repl'
> function in "@lib/form.l".
>
> So, yes, it is executed on the server. This feature opens up the server
> completely, so it is better not enabled on a publicly accessible system.
>

Exactly. Honestly, this section is just one hack piled on top of another.
I started with the 'repl' function and noticed that I could hit enter
instead of clicking the 'eval' button. So I just hid the buttons with CSS
to give it a cleaner look. You can easily break it by typing in your
expression and then clicking outside of the input box; enter will then
do nothing. Furthermore, the space where the results show up is
actually a textarea, as in the original 'repl'. I wanted just the input bar,
so again I used CSS to make the textarea the same color as the
background. Hah!

I'm in total agreement with Alex, let's not include this on the version
that eventually goes public. It's dangerous, and would be a lot of effort
to make it not so, all for something that's mostly a novelty. And as Vid
mentioned below, it takes up a ton of valuable real estate at the top.

It was fun to build and I learned more about CSS in doing it. Good
enough for me :)

Re: PicoLisp Website

[Sergio Sorrenti]

Great Website really,compliments it is simple and essential.Very nice work. Sergio 13.12.2015, 10:57, "Alexander Burger" :Hi Erik,On Sat, Dec 12, 2015 at 12:18:33PM -0600, Erik Gustafson wrote: I made a functional mock-up of a possible new homepage for PicoLisp, which can be found here: https://github.com/erdg/picolisp-websiteWow! I'm impressed. This looks beaauutiful! ...  It was built entirely with PicoLisp, love, and CSS. No frameworks, no extra
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Re: PicoLisp Website

[Erik Gustafson]

Hey Vid,

Thanks for the feedback!



> 1. Logo is nice, it could be spruced up, like the racket lang logo with
> shadows etc
>

I plan to keep it as is. To me, shadows and other effects would give it a
dated look. I think today's web is all about flat, unadorned design. This
logo is simple and powerful, with no added frills, just like PicoLisp :)



> 2. Too much real estate is lost on the first half on the page
>

Couldn't agree more! On my small laptop I don't even see the bottom of the
'Try It' section. So right off the bat we have to scroll to find the info
we're looking for. I think replacing the 'Try It' section with something
else will help that a lot.

Another site that I like a lot is Chicken Scheme .



> 4. This has nothing to do with design, but I think putting emphasis on the
> database aspects of the language and really showing them of as a killer
> feature will do great things.
>
> I have really struggled with that aspect of the system, especially until
> Alex showed it off to me personally, so I think a new tutorial on this
> aspect could be on the cards.
>

Certainly! It is a killer feature indeed. I was thinking of turning the
making of this site into a tutorial at some point. It's not really DB heavy
(though when combined with the wiki it will be), but it would show how one
can make good-looking, responsive sites with just PicoLisp and a modest
amount of CSS.

Re: PicoLisp Website

[Christophe Gragnic]

On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 9:05 AM, Alexander Burger  wrote:
>
> So, yes, it is executed on the server. This feature opens up the server
> completely, so it is better not enabled on a publicly accessible system.

Hi all, hi Alex.

Maybe the job could securely be done by EmuLisp. But:
1) EmuLisp lacks the most powerful or esoteric/fun functions (DB,
pilog, among others…). On the other hand, it has OOP.
2) I don't know what its position is in the PicoLisp ecosystem.

Disclaimer: I love and use EmuLisp. In fact I use it more than the
real PicoLisp but my needs are specific.


chri

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Re: PicoLisp Website

[Alexander Burger]

Hi Christophe,

> I tried to investigate how you embed the REPL but no luck.
> Could you explain please? Are the exprs executed on the server?!?

It is the function 'try-it-repl', which is a modification of the 'repl'
function in "@lib/form.l".

So, yes, it is executed on the server. This feature opens up the server
completely, so it is better not enabled on a publicly accessible system.

♪♫ Alex
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Re: PicoLisp Website

[Vidyuth Kini]

Hi Erik,

Great work on the site. I definitely like the new logo. here are my
comments:

1. Logo is nice, it could be spruced up, like the racket lang logo with
shadows etc

2. Too much real estate is lost on the first half on the page, if you look
at a comparable site,

http://racket-lang.org/

you can see that the logo, title, byline and navigation are all stuck at
the top, giving more room for explanatory wordings on the page.

I am not sure what you think of that but it is an idea.

I think ruby ( https://www.ruby-lang.org/en/ ) does a good job of this too.
so does rust ( https://www.rust-lang.org/ )
& Elixir ( http://elixir-lang.org/ )


3. I agree that some of the colors could be looked at and perhaps to go
with a lighter color scheme but this first draft is very good indeed.

4. This has nothing to do with design, but I think putting emphasis on the
database aspects of the language and really showing them of as a killer
feature will do great things.

I have really struggled with that aspect of the system, especially until
Alex showed it off to me personally, so I think a new tutorial on this
aspect could be on the cards.

The effort is really nice and a good change.

regards,

Vid


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On Sat, Dec 12, 2015 at 10:18 PM, Erik Gustafson <erik.d.gustaf...@gmail.com
> wrote:

> My dearest fellow PicoLispers,
>
> I should have shared this two months ago! I don't know why I didn't.
> Anyway, I think PicoLisp is the coolest and wanted to give something back
> to the community.
>
> I made a functional mock-up of a possible new homepage for PicoLisp, which
> can be found here:
>
> https://github.com/erdg/picolisp-website
>
> I set out to build something that reflected the awesomeness of the
> language as I see it, while respecting everything that came before me. The
> logo is just a different take on the existing logo.  And you'll recognize a
> lot of the writing from various PicoLisp sources and tutorials; I grabbed
> the bits that I thought most effectively described what PicoLisp is about,
> and weaved them together with some of my own prose. I think it's fun read
> (albeit a little verbose) that would inspire newcomers to give PicoLisp
> more of the attention it deserves.
>
> It was built entirely with PicoLisp, love, and CSS. No frameworks, no
> extra JS (or BS, for that matter). I tried to keep the CSS as minimal and
> modular as possible - just a few tools and utils that I think fit very well
> into the PicoLisp philosophy.
>
> Do try resizing your browser! It's pretty responsive. Not bad for my first
> foray into the world of frontend design :)
>
> Now, I will admit that this falls more towards the designer side of the
> developer/designer spectrum of websites. It's basically a PicoLisp version
> of the Haskell website at this point. I'm not entirely sold on it myself
> and the 'Try It' section is pretty corny, but I wanted something concrete
> to work towards and this is what came of that effort.
>
> I'm more than happy to answer any questions about the code or design
> choices. Even more, I'd love to hear what you all think! What do you like?
> Anything that doesn't sit well?
>
> Frankly, my end game is to inspire the community to begin work on a new
> PicoLisp website. PicoLisp has come so, so far in the last year! It's
> spreading to more architectures, embedded devices, more people are joining
> the mailing list than ever, writing and sharing software. I love every
> second of it! So I wanted to give you all something to react to, to start
> the conversation.
>
> I had a blast creating this, and I hope that comes through!
>
>
> Peace, love and PicoLisp,
> Erik
>
>
>

Re: PicoLisp Website

[Jon Kleiser]

Hi Erik,


I like your design a lot, and I think your presentation of the PicoLisp 
language and VM is also well done. I suggest you drop the sentence about fresh 
air and stagnant, statically typed world. I think you/we should include a few 
words about which OS platform(s) that are supported, and which are not so much 
supported.

I like the font you've chosen, and I also think your new logo is very nice. (I 
made the old one.)

I think I would have made the black background and the black headings a little 
less black, but that's just my first impression.

I really think PicoLisp deserves a new website design like this. Well done!


/Jon


From: picolisp@software-lab.de <picolisp@software-lab.de> on behalf of Erik 
Gustafson <erik.d.gustaf...@gmail.com>
Sent: 12 December 2015 19:18
To: picolisp@software-lab.de
Subject: PicoLisp Website

My dearest fellow PicoLispers,

I should have shared this two months ago! I don't know why I didn't. Anyway, I 
think PicoLisp is the coolest and wanted to give something back to the 
community.

I made a functional mock-up of a possible new homepage for PicoLisp, which can 
be found here:

https://github.com/erdg/picolisp-website

I set out to build something that reflected the awesomeness of the language as 
I see it, while respecting everything that came before me. The logo is just a 
different take on the existing logo.  And you'll recognize a lot of the writing 
from various PicoLisp sources and tutorials; I grabbed the bits that I thought 
most effectively described what PicoLisp is about, and weaved them together 
with some of my own prose. I think it's fun read (albeit a little verbose) that 
would inspire newcomers to give PicoLisp more of the attention it deserves.

It was built entirely with PicoLisp, love, and CSS. No frameworks, no extra JS 
(or BS, for that matter). I tried to keep the CSS as minimal and modular as 
possible - just a few tools and utils that I think fit very well into the 
PicoLisp philosophy.

Do try resizing your browser! It's pretty responsive. Not bad for my first 
foray into the world of frontend design :)

Now, I will admit that this falls more towards the designer side of the 
developer/designer spectrum of websites. It's basically a PicoLisp version of 
the Haskell website at this point. I'm not entirely sold on it myself and the 
'Try It' section is pretty corny, but I wanted something concrete to work 
towards and this is what came of that effort.

I'm more than happy to answer any questions about the code or design choices. 
Even more, I'd love to hear what you all think! What do you like? Anything that 
doesn't sit well?

Frankly, my end game is to inspire the community to begin work on a new 
PicoLisp website. PicoLisp has come so, so far in the last year! It's spreading 
to more architectures, embedded devices, more people are joining the mailing 
list than ever, writing and sharing software. I love every second of it! So I 
wanted to give you all something to react to, to start the conversation.

I had a blast creating this, and I hope that comes through!


Peace, love and PicoLisp,
Erik

Re: PicoLisp Website

[Alexander Burger]

Hi Erik,

On Sat, Dec 12, 2015 at 12:18:33PM -0600, Erik Gustafson wrote:
> I made a functional mock-up of a possible new homepage for PicoLisp, which
> can be found here:
> 
> https://github.com/erdg/picolisp-website

Wow! I'm impressed. This looks beaauutiful!


> ... 
> It was built entirely with PicoLisp, love, and CSS. No frameworks, no extra
> JS (or BS, for that matter). I tried to keep the CSS as minimal and modular
> as possible - just a few tools and utils that I think fit very well into
> the PicoLisp philosophy.
> ...
> I'm more than happy to answer any questions about the code or design
> choices. Even more, I'd love to hear what you all think! What do you like?
> Anything that doesn't sit well?

The code looks very good. And completely in the PicoLisp spirit :)


> Frankly, my end game is to inspire the community to begin work on a new

Good!

> PicoLisp website. PicoLisp has come so, so far in the last year! It's
> spreading to more architectures, embedded devices, more people are joining
> the mailing list than ever, writing and sharing software. I love every
> second of it! So I wanted to give you all something to react to, to start
> the conversation.
> 
> I had a blast creating this, and I hope that comes through!

Absolutely! Please continue with it, and let us know how we can help!

Thanks a lot!
♪♫ Alex
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Re: PicoLisp Website

[Elías Alonso G . -Cornejo]

Hi, Erik

I love your design! And the texts are informative and easy to read. I have
two comments: I agree with Jon about being more specific with the supported
platforms, and I think it is not clear enough that the headings of the
"Fun" section are links. I think your code looks clean and good too. Thanks
for sharing this!

Elias.


2015-12-13 11:11 GMT+01:00 Jon Kleiser <jon.klei...@fsat.no>:

> Hi Erik,
>
>
> I like your design a lot, and I think your presentation of the PicoLisp
> language and VM is also well done. I suggest you drop the sentence about
> fresh air and stagnant, statically typed world. I think you/we should
> include a few words about which OS platform(s) that are supported, and
> which are not so much supported.
>
> I like the font you've chosen, and I also think your new logo is very
> nice. (I made the old one.)
>
> I think I would have made the black background and the black headings a
> little less black, but that's just my first impression.
>
> I really think PicoLisp deserves a new website design like this. Well done!
>
>
> /Jon
> --
> *From:* picolisp@software-labde <picolisp@software-lab.de> on behalf of
> Erik Gustafson <erik.dgustaf...@gmail.com>
> *Sent:* 12 December 2015 19:18
> *To:* picolisp@software-lab.de
> *Subject:* PicoLisp Website
>
> My dearest fellow PicoLispers,
>
> I should have shared this two months ago! I don't know why I didn't.
> Anyway, I think PicoLisp is the coolest and wanted to give something back
> to the community.
>
> I made a functional mock-up of a possible new homepage for PicoLisp, which
> can be found here:
>
> https://github.com/erdg/picolisp-website
>
> I set out to build something that reflected the awesomeness of the
> language as I see it, while respecting everything that came before me. The
> logo is just a different take on the existing logo.  And you'll recognize a
> lot of the writing from various PicoLisp sources and tutorials; I grabbed
> the bits that I thought most effectively described what PicoLisp is about,
> and weaved them together with some of my own prose. I think it's fun read
> (albeit a little verbose) that would inspire newcomers to give PicoLisp
> more of the attention it deserves.
>
> It was built entirely with PicoLisp, love, and CSS. No frameworks, no
> extra JS (or BS, for that matter). I tried to keep the CSS as minimal and
> modular as possible - just a few tools and utils that I think fit very well
> into the PicoLisp philosophy.
>
> Do try resizing your browser! It's pretty responsive. Not bad for my first
> foray into the world of frontend design :)
>
> Now, I will admit that this falls more towards the designer side of the
> developer/designer spectrum of websites. It's basically a PicoLisp version
> of the Haskell website at this point. I'm not entirely sold on it myself
> and the 'Try It' section is pretty corny, but I wanted something concrete
> to work towards and this is what came of that effort.
>
> I'm more than happy to answer any questions about the code or design
> choices. Even more, I'd love to hear what you all think! What do you like?
> Anything that doesn't sit well?
>
> Frankly, my end game is to inspire the community to begin work on a new
> PicoLisp website. PicoLisp has come so, so far in the last year! It's
> spreading to more architectures, embedded devices, more people are joining
> the mailing list than ever, writing and sharing software. I love every
> second of it! So I wanted to give you all something to react to, to start
> the conversation.
>
> I had a blast creating this, and I hope that comes through!
>
>
> Peace, love and PicoLisp,
> Erik
>
>
>

Re: PicoLisp Website

[Erik Gustafson]

Hi all,

Awesome! Thanks for the feedback. Glad you all like it :)

Alex, could I possibly get a copy of the current website source,
articles included? I'd like to begin working on a new documentation
page (mostly just reorganizing) and it would be great to have the
articles to link to. And also to figure out how we might go about
merging the new design with the existing structure.

Jon, I've removed the "stagnant, statically typed" bit. I'll try playing
around with the colors as well, it's very dark at the moment. I'm
glad you like the new logo, too. I love the "lambda trifecta" you created,
so thanks for the inspiration!


Regarding supported platforms, I have a few ideas:

- Another "stripe" with something like, "PicoLisp runs on most every
  modern platform, including mac/linux, windows, android... Check
  the Downloads page for more details." Something like that and
  then go into specifics on the Downloads page.

- Just have the specifics right on the homepage, in its own section
  with links as needed.

- Or include a few new entries in the features section (e.g. "Portable",
  "Easily Embedded"). I think the page needs another contrasting
  section though (non-white background), but that could come as a
  footer with licensing info and other typical footer links.


Thoughts? I'll start messing around with it and see what feels best.

Thanks all, I'm excited!




On Sun, Dec 13, 2015 at 6:35 AM, Elías Alonso G.-Cornejo <elias...@gmail.com
> wrote:

> Hi, Erik
>
> I love your design! And the texts are informative and easy to read. I have
> two comments: I agree with Jon about being more specific with the supported
> platforms, and I think it is not clear enough that the headings of the
> "Fun" section are links I think your code looks clean and good too. Thanks
> for sharing this!
>
> Elias.
>
>
> 2015-12-13 11:11 GMT+01:00 Jon Kleiser <jon.klei...@fsat.no>:
>
>> Hi Erik,
>>
>>
>> I like your design a lot, and I think your presentation of the PicoLisp
>> language and VM is also well done. I suggest you drop the sentence about
>> fresh air and stagnant, statically typed world. I think you/we should
>> include a few words about which OS platform(s) that are supported, and
>> which are not so much supported.
>>
>> I like the font you've chosen, and I also think your new logo is very
>> nice. (I made the old one.)
>>
>> I think I would have made the black background and the black headings a
>> little less black, but that's just my first impression.
>>
>> I really think PicoLisp deserves a new website design like this. Well
>> done!
>>
>>
>> /Jon
>> ------
>> *From:* picolisp@software-labde <picolisp@software-lab.de> on behalf of
>> Erik Gustafson <erik.dgustaf...@gmail.com>
>> *Sent:* 12 December 2015 19:18
>> *To:* picolisp@software-lab.de
>> *Subject:* PicoLisp Website
>>
>> My dearest fellow PicoLispers,
>>
>> I should have shared this two months ago! I don't know why I didn't
>> Anyway, I think PicoLisp is the coolest and wanted to give something back
>> to the community.
>>
>> I made a functional mock-up of a possible new homepage for PicoLisp,
>> which can be found here:
>>
>> https://github.com/erdg/picolisp-website
>>
>> I set out to build something that reflected the awesomeness of the
>> language as I see it, while respecting everything that came before me. The
>> logo is just a different take on the existing logo.  And you'll recognize a
>> lot of the writing from various PicoLisp sources and tutorials; I grabbed
>> the bits that I thought most effectively described what PicoLisp is about,
>> and weaved them together with some of my own prose. I think it's fun read
>> (albeit a little verbose) that would inspire newcomers to give PicoLisp
>> more of the attention it deserves.
>>
>> It was built entirely with PicoLisp, love, and CSS. No frameworks, no
>> extra JS (or BS, for that matter). I tried to keep the CSS as minimal and
>> modular as possible - just a few tools and utils that I think fit very well
>> into the PicoLisp philosophy.
>>
>> Do try resizing your browser! It's pretty responsive. Not bad for my
>> first foray into the world of frontend design :)
>>
>> Now, I will admit that this falls more towards the designer side of the
>> developer/designer spectrum of websites. It's basically a PicoLisp version
>> of the Haskell website at this point. I'm not entirely sold on it myself
>> and the 'Try It' section is pretty corny, but I wanted something concrete
>> to work towards 

Re: PicoLisp Website

[Christophe Gragnic]

On Sun, Dec 13, 2015 at 6:51 PM, Erik Gustafson
 wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Awesome! Thanks for the feedback. Glad you all like it :)

I liked it too. Very nice work.
I tried to investigate how you embed the REPL but no luck.
Could you explain please? Are the exprs executed on the server?!?

> […]
>
> Regarding supported platforms, I have a few ideas:
>
> […]
>
> - Just have the specifics right on the homepage, in its own section
>   with links as needed.
>
> […]

I'd personaly go for the second one. We could cast a vote.

Reading «PicoLisp runs on most every modern platform, including
mac/linux, windows, android» I thought about the various
implementations of PicoLisp:
1) A diagram would be nice.
2) Or maybe just a table, with functionalities dropped for each platforms.
3) Would there be some room for the alternate versions like Ersatz
   (which for me is the only way to run PicoLisp on Windows without
   Cygwin, or am I missing something?) or EmuLisp ?


chri

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Re: PicoLisp Website

[Alexander Burger]

Hi Erik,

> Alex, could I possibly get a copy of the current website source,
> articles included? I'd like to begin working on a new documentation
> page (mostly just reorganizing) and it would be great to have the
> articles to link to. And also to figure out how we might go about
> merging the new design with the existing structure.

Sure! I'll pack the DB and send it to you by PM, also the sources. The
latter, btw, can also be downloaded directly from

   http://picolisp.com/wiki/?Documentation

Sending the DB should be no problem, right? It is for pil64. The
passwords in the member accounts are all encrypted. It would be
difficult to remove them before packing the DB, because deleted data are
not easily purged.

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PicoLisp Website

[Erik Gustafson]

My dearest fellow PicoLispers,

I should have shared this two months ago! I don't know why I didn't.
Anyway, I think PicoLisp is the coolest and wanted to give something back
to the community.

I made a functional mock-up of a possible new homepage for PicoLisp, which
can be found here:

https://github.com/erdg/picolisp-website

I set out to build something that reflected the awesomeness of the language
as I see it, while respecting everything that came before me. The logo is
just a different take on the existing logo.  And you'll recognize a lot of
the writing from various PicoLisp sources and tutorials; I grabbed the bits
that I thought most effectively described what PicoLisp is about, and
weaved them together with some of my own prose. I think it's fun read
(albeit a little verbose) that would inspire newcomers to give PicoLisp
more of the attention it deserves.

It was built entirely with PicoLisp, love, and CSS. No frameworks, no extra
JS (or BS, for that matter). I tried to keep the CSS as minimal and modular
as possible - just a few tools and utils that I think fit very well into
the PicoLisp philosophy.

Do try resizing your browser! It's pretty responsive. Not bad for my first
foray into the world of frontend design :)

Now, I will admit that this falls more towards the designer side of the
developer/designer spectrum of websites. It's basically a PicoLisp version
of the Haskell website at this point. I'm not entirely sold on it myself
and the 'Try It' section is pretty corny, but I wanted something concrete
to work towards and this is what came of that effort.

I'm more than happy to answer any questions about the code or design
choices. Even more, I'd love to hear what you all think! What do you like?
Anything that doesn't sit well?

Frankly, my end game is to inspire the community to begin work on a new
PicoLisp website. PicoLisp has come so, so far in the last year! It's
spreading to more architectures, embedded devices, more people are joining
the mailing list than ever, writing and sharing software. I love every
second of it! So I wanted to give you all something to react to, to start
the conversation.

I had a blast creating this, and I hope that comes through!


Peace, love and PicoLisp,
Erik