Re: flinuxpicolisp
Oleksandr, thank you for the report. Please confirm, what does *CPU report under the src64 version on the Win10/Windows Subsystem? If it is emu then it is running the emulated version of the 64-bit version, which is good but not optimal for performance I have a 32-bit windows 10 machine and the Windows Subsystem for Linux was not available on 32-bit as of a few months ago, which is one of the reasons I started working on the win-x86-64 port. If the native, assembly, version of PicoLisp 64 runs under Win10/x64 then that would be great. I will still continue to work on my port as I would like to support those without access to win10 (myself included). On Tue, Jul 5, 2016 at 2:14 AM, Oleksandr Nikitin <oleksa...@tvori.info> wrote: > Hi Rick, Thursten > > just FYI, both 32 and 64-bit PicoLisp compiles and runs pretty much > transparently on the new "Windows Subsystem for Linux". > > Haven't tried using database yet, though. > > On Tue, Jul 5, 2016 at 5:26 AM, Rick Hanson <cryptor...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> On Mon, Jul 4, 2016 at 2:17 PM, Thorsten wrote: >> > Hi List, >> >> Hi, Thorsten ! >> >> > I just discovered a nice article by Joe Bogner about FLINUX as an >> > alternative was to run PicoLisp under Windows >> > (http://picolisp.com/wiki/? flinuxpicolisp). >> > >> > I tried it out, and succeded to a certain point but not further. >> > >> > When installing necessary tools like wget, make etc. I often hit the >> > "could not change the root directory (No such file or directory)" >> > error, but it appeared after the last installation step, and after >> > an C-c installation appeared successful. >> > >> > But when trying to compile the 64bit version, Java is missing, and >> > when I try to install it, I get the above error in the middle of the >> > installation process that thus cannot finish. >> > >> > There is some info about this >> > (https://github.com/wishstudio/flinux/issues/63), but I could not >> > really find a solution. Did somebody on the list succeed with the >> > Flinux install of the 64bit version on Windows? >> >> I'm not aware. It looks as if his article >> >> http://picolisp.com/wiki/?flinuxpicolisp >> >> was only meant for 32-bit pil builds. >> >> On the other hand and on the topic of Windows 64-bit pil builds, Joe >> is currently working on and very close to a solution based on midipix. >> >> http://www.midipix.org/#sec-midipix >> >> He has been working closely with the midipix author for many weeks now >> (back and forth on IRC) to iron out particular problems with getting >> pil ported there. >> >> There is not much in the way of documentation yet, but Joe has >> cataloged some pil patches related to the midipix build here: >> >> https://github.com/joebo/picoLisp-win-x86-64 >> >> (and there might be more he has not pushed yet; not entirely sure.) >> >> At any rate, when we see Joe (joebo) on #picolisp let's remind >> ourselves to ask him to update us about it here on the ML. >> >> > Any hints would be welcome. >> > Cheers >> > Thorsten >> >> Best, --Rick >> -- >> UNSUBSCRIBE: mailto:picolisp@software-lab.de?subject=Unsubscribe >> > > > > -- > With best wishes, Oleksandr Nikitin > > skype: wizzard0 >
Re: flinuxpicolisp
On Mon, Jul 4, 2016 at 2:17 PM, Thorsten <tjol...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi List, > I just discovered a nice article by Joe Bogner about FLINUX as an > alternative was to run PicoLisp under Windows (http://picolisp.com/wiki/? > flinuxpicolisp). > > Hi Thorsten, glad you found it. > I tried it out, and succeded to a certain point but not further. > > When installing necessary tools like wget, make etc. I often hit the > "could not change the root directory (No such file or directory)" error, > but it appeared after the last installation step, and after an C-c > installation appeared successful. > > I had the same experience. I think it was a side effect of how bash runs within it and didn't affect the pil32 execution as far as I remember. > But when trying to compile the 64bit version, Java is missing, and when I > try to install it, I get the above error in the middle of the installation > process that thus cannot finish. > > Unfortunately, I don't think you'll be able to compile or run the 64bit version. I was unable to compile a x64 version of flinux and it seems like it is not implemented. For example, https://github.com/wishstudio/flinux/tree/7874a4ff9ba2fec4ad1c67b857c563288d5aa93e/src/dbt, does not have an x64 version and the assembly for x86_trampoline does not compile under visual c++ x64. This is the main motivation for working on the native x64 version of PicoLisp using midipix as the linux syscall interop layer. Thanks for the mention Rick! The x64 version is still in a draft status, most of the changes are here: https://github.com/joebo/picoLisp-win-x86-64/blob/master/src64/arch/win-x86-64.l, to support the different ABI calling convention. It relies on midipix which is still in alpha and hasn't yet been released which is why I haven't actively promoted it. There's a few workarounds still in the code too, for example dlopen isn't yet implemented in midipix so ht ext: code needs to be compiled into the picolisp binary, https://github.com/joebo/picoLisp-win-x86-64/blob/master/src64/Makefile#L129 The current x64 windows binary release can be found under Releases in the github repo linked above, https://github.com/joebo/picoLisp-win-x86-64/releases There is some info about this > (https://github.com/wishstudio/flinux/issues/63), but I could not really > find a solution. Did somebody on the list succeed with the Flinux install > of the 64bit version on Windows? > > Any hints would be welcome. > Cheers > Thorsten > > -- > UNSUBSCRIBE: mailto:picolisp@software-lab.de?subject=Unsubscribe >
Re: flinuxpicolisp
Hi Rick, Thursten just FYI, both 32 and 64-bit PicoLisp compiles and runs pretty much transparently on the new "Windows Subsystem for Linux". Haven't tried using database yet, though. On Tue, Jul 5, 2016 at 5:26 AM, Rick Hanson <cryptor...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Mon, Jul 4, 2016 at 2:17 PM, Thorsten wrote: > > Hi List, > > Hi, Thorsten ! > > > I just discovered a nice article by Joe Bogner about FLINUX as an > > alternative was to run PicoLisp under Windows > > (http://picolisp.com/wiki/? flinuxpicolisp). > > > > I tried it out, and succeded to a certain point but not further. > > > > When installing necessary tools like wget, make etc. I often hit the > > "could not change the root directory (No such file or directory)" > > error, but it appeared after the last installation step, and after > > an C-c installation appeared successful. > > > > But when trying to compile the 64bit version, Java is missing, and > > when I try to install it, I get the above error in the middle of the > > installation process that thus cannot finish. > > > > There is some info about this > > (https://github.com/wishstudio/flinux/issues/63), but I could not > > really find a solution. Did somebody on the list succeed with the > > Flinux install of the 64bit version on Windows? > > I'm not aware. It looks as if his article > > http://picolisp.com/wiki/?flinuxpicolisp > > was only meant for 32-bit pil builds. > > On the other hand and on the topic of Windows 64-bit pil builds, Joe > is currently working on and very close to a solution based on midipix. > > http://www.midipix.org/#sec-midipix > > He has been working closely with the midipix author for many weeks now > (back and forth on IRC) to iron out particular problems with getting > pil ported there. > > There is not much in the way of documentation yet, but Joe has > cataloged some pil patches related to the midipix build here: > > https://github.com/joebo/picoLisp-win-x86-64 > > (and there might be more he has not pushed yet; not entirely sure.) > > At any rate, when we see Joe (joebo) on #picolisp let's remind > ourselves to ask him to update us about it here on the ML. > > > Any hints would be welcome. > > Cheers > > Thorsten > > Best, --Rick > -- > UNSUBSCRIBE: mailto:picolisp@software-lab.de?subject=Unsubscribe > -- With best wishes, Oleksandr Nikitin skype: wizzard0
Re: flinuxpicolisp
On Mon, Jul 4, 2016 at 2:17 PM, Thorsten wrote: > Hi List, Hi, Thorsten ! > I just discovered a nice article by Joe Bogner about FLINUX as an > alternative was to run PicoLisp under Windows > (http://picolisp.com/wiki/? flinuxpicolisp). > > I tried it out, and succeded to a certain point but not further. > > When installing necessary tools like wget, make etc. I often hit the > "could not change the root directory (No such file or directory)" > error, but it appeared after the last installation step, and after > an C-c installation appeared successful. > > But when trying to compile the 64bit version, Java is missing, and > when I try to install it, I get the above error in the middle of the > installation process that thus cannot finish. > > There is some info about this > (https://github.com/wishstudio/flinux/issues/63), but I could not > really find a solution. Did somebody on the list succeed with the > Flinux install of the 64bit version on Windows? I'm not aware. It looks as if his article http://picolisp.com/wiki/?flinuxpicolisp was only meant for 32-bit pil builds. On the other hand and on the topic of Windows 64-bit pil builds, Joe is currently working on and very close to a solution based on midipix. http://www.midipix.org/#sec-midipix He has been working closely with the midipix author for many weeks now (back and forth on IRC) to iron out particular problems with getting pil ported there. There is not much in the way of documentation yet, but Joe has cataloged some pil patches related to the midipix build here: https://github.com/joebo/picoLisp-win-x86-64 (and there might be more he has not pushed yet; not entirely sure.) At any rate, when we see Joe (joebo) on #picolisp let's remind ourselves to ask him to update us about it here on the ML. > Any hints would be welcome. > Cheers > Thorsten Best, --Rick -- UNSUBSCRIBE: mailto:picolisp@software-lab.de?subject=Unsubscribe
Re: flinuxpicolisp
hi all, why not cygwin with 32bit version of PicoLisp? it works out of box, tested, passed buildin tests and can run all my code as any linux. Mike On Mon, Jul 4, 2016 at 9:17 PM, Thorsten <tjol...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi List, > I just discovered a nice article by Joe Bogner about FLINUX as an > alternative was to run PicoLisp under Windows (http://picolisp.com/wiki/? > flinuxpicolisp). > > I tried it out, and succeded to a certain point but not further. > > When installing necessary tools like wget, make etc. I often hit the > "could not change the root directory (No such file or directory)" error, > but it appeared after the last installation step, and after an C-c > installation appeared successful. > > But when trying to compile the 64bit version, Java is missing, and when I > try to install it, I get the above error in the middle of the installation > process that thus cannot finish. > > There is some info about this > (https://github.com/wishstudio/flinux/issues/63), but I could not really > find a solution. Did somebody on the list succeed with the Flinux install > of the 64bit version on Windows? > > Any hints would be welcome. > Cheers > Thorsten > > -- > UNSUBSCRIBE: mailto:picolisp@software-lab.de?subject=Unsubscribe >
flinuxpicolisp
Hi List, I just discovered a nice article by Joe Bogner about FLINUX as an alternative was to run PicoLisp under Windows (http://picolisp.com/wiki/? flinuxpicolisp). I tried it out, and succeded to a certain point but not further. When installing necessary tools like wget, make etc. I often hit the "could not change the root directory (No such file or directory)" error, but it appeared after the last installation step, and after an C-c installation appeared successful. But when trying to compile the 64bit version, Java is missing, and when I try to install it, I get the above error in the middle of the installation process that thus cannot finish. There is some info about this (https://github.com/wishstudio/flinux/issues/63), but I could not really find a solution. Did somebody on the list succeed with the Flinux install of the 64bit version on Windows? Any hints would be welcome. Cheers Thorsten -- UNSUBSCRIBE: mailto:picolisp@software-lab.de?subject=Unsubscribe
