Re: Proposal to create a branch for contrib project Zebra

2009-08-18 Thread Milind A Bhandarkar
Raghu, Since most of the bugfixes to Pig happen in trunk, I (and several folks that I know) tend to use pig trunk most often. It would be nice if I picked up Zebra enhancements along the way, as well. Since zebra.jar is not included in pig.jar (I hope not), I can still use stable zebra jar

Re: Proposal to create a branch for contrib project Zebra

2009-08-18 Thread Raghu Angadi
Milind A Bhandarkar wrote: Since zebra.jar is not included in pig.jar (I hope not), I can still use stable zebra jar (binary) with latest pig compiled in trunk. The problem is that though the current version is expected to be stable, it would still require some bug fixes. We essentially need

RE: Proposal to create a branch for contrib project Zebra

2009-08-18 Thread Santhosh Srinivasan
I would recommend that zebra wait for Pig 0.4.0 (a couple of weeks?). A branch will be created for the 0.4.0 release and zebra will automatically benefit. Santhosh -Original Message- From: Raghu Angadi [mailto:rang...@yahoo-inc.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 9:49 AM To:

Re: Proposal to create a branch for contrib project Zebra

2009-08-18 Thread Raghu Angadi
Right. I just noticed the mails on Pig.0.4.0. I joined pig-dev list just yesterday. waiting for 0.4.0 might be good enough if it is just a couple of weeks. will keep a watch on it. I think we will wait for a few days and attach any new feature patches to jiras. Those patches can certainly

Re: Proposal to create a branch for contrib project Zebra

2009-08-18 Thread Thejas Nair
I think we are creating unnecessary bureaucratic hurdles here by preventing contrib project from having a branch. I don't see why zebra has to use pig release branch, as the new pig release does not include it. The decisions are supposed to help keeping things open, but this seems to be forcing

Proposal to create a branch for contrib project Zebra

2009-08-17 Thread Raghu Angadi
Thanks to the PIG team, The first version of contrib project Zebra (PIG-833) is committed to PIG trunk. In short, Zebra is a table storage layer built for use in PIG and other Hadoop applications. While we are stabilizing current version V1 in the trunk, we plan to add more new features

RE: Proposal to create a branch for contrib project Zebra

2009-08-17 Thread Olga Natkovich
+1 -Original Message- From: Raghu Angadi [mailto:rang...@yahoo-inc.com] Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 4:06 PM To: pig-dev@hadoop.apache.org Subject: Proposal to create a branch for contrib project Zebra Thanks to the PIG team, The first version of contrib project Zebra (PIG-833) is

RE: Proposal to create a branch for contrib project Zebra

2009-08-17 Thread Santhosh Srinivasan
My vote is -1 -Original Message- From: Santhosh Srinivasan Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 4:38 PM To: 'pig-dev@hadoop.apache.org' Subject: RE: Proposal to create a branch for contrib project Zebra Is there any precedence for such proposals? I am not comfortable with extending committer

RE: Proposal to create a branch for contrib project Zebra

2009-08-17 Thread Santhosh Srinivasan
Is there any precedence for such proposals? I am not comfortable with extending committer access to contrib teams. I would suggest that Zebra be made a sub-project of Hadoop and have a life of its own. Santhosh -Original Message- From: Raghu Angadi [mailto:rang...@yahoo-inc.com] Sent:

RE: Proposal to create a branch for contrib project Zebra

2009-08-17 Thread Olga Natkovich
Raghu is PMC member and as such already has committer rights to all subprojects. So we are not breaking any new grounds here. The reasoning is the same as for creating branches for Pig multiquery work that we did in Pig. Olga -Original Message- From: Santhosh Srinivasan

Re: Proposal to create a branch for contrib project Zebra

2009-08-17 Thread Yiping Han
+1 On 8/18/09 7:11 AM, Olga Natkovich ol...@yahoo-inc.com wrote: +1 -Original Message- From: Raghu Angadi [mailto:rang...@yahoo-inc.com] Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 4:06 PM To: pig-dev@hadoop.apache.org Subject: Proposal to create a branch for contrib project Zebra Thanks

Re: Proposal to create a branch for contrib project Zebra

2009-08-17 Thread Milind A Bhandarkar
IANAC, but my (non-binding) vote is also -1. I think all the improvements and feature addition to zebra should be available through pig trunk. The codebase is not big enough to justify creating a branch. If the reason is Pig's dependence on a checked in hadoop jar, the shims proposal by Dmitry

Re: Proposal to create a branch for contrib project Zebra

2009-08-17 Thread Arun C Murthy
On Aug 17, 2009, at 4:38 PM, Santhosh Srinivasan wrote: Is there any precedence for such proposals? I am not comfortable with extending committer access to contrib teams. I would suggest that Zebra be made a sub-project of Hadoop and have a life of its own. There has been sufficient

Re: Proposal to create a branch for contrib project Zebra

2009-08-17 Thread Arun C Murthy
That leaves us with contrib committers. Can you point to earlier email threads that cover the topic of giving committer access to contrib projects? Specifically, what does it mean to award someone committer privileges to a contrib project, what are the access privileges that come with such

Re: Proposal to create a branch for contrib project Zebra

2009-08-17 Thread Raghu Angadi
Hi Santosh, There are two separate things : (a) voting a contributor as a committer (b) committing to a contrib project. (b): My experience with Hadoop is that Contrib by definition is very loosely coupled with core. By convention, we as committers to core (hdfs, mapred, etc) did not have

Re: Proposal to create a branch for contrib project Zebra

2009-08-17 Thread Raghu Angadi
Raghu Angadi wrote: Hi Santosh, There are two separate things : (a) voting a contributor as a committer (b) committing to a contrib project. [...] Reason for (a) is simple scalability. We can not monitor everything. If I meant to say Reason for (b) (why contrib commits are treated bit