[jira] Commented: (PIG-1331) Owl Hadoop Table Management Service

2010-05-04 Thread Jeff Hammerbacher (JIRA)

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Jeff Hammerbacher commented on PIG-1331:


Hey,

Does this issue make PIG-823 a duplicate?

Thanks,
Jeff

 Owl Hadoop Table Management Service
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 Key: PIG-1331
 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PIG-1331
 Project: Pig
  Issue Type: New Feature
Affects Versions: 0.8.0
Reporter: Jay Tang
Assignee: Ajay Kidave
 Fix For: 0.8.0

 Attachments: anttestoutput.tgz, build.log, ivy_version.patch, 
 owl.contrib.3.tgz, owl.contrib.4.tar.gz


 This JIRA is a proposal to create a Hadoop table management service: Owl. 
 Today, MapReduce and Pig applications interacts directly with HDFS 
 directories and files and must deal with low level data management issues 
 such as storage format, serialization/compression schemes, data layout, and 
 efficient data accesses, etc, often with different solutions. Owl aims to 
 provide a standard way to addresses this issue and abstracts away the 
 complexities of reading/writing huge amount of data from/to HDFS.
 Owl has a data access API that is modeled after the traditional Hadoop 
 !InputFormt and a management API to manipulate Owl objects.  This JIRA is 
 related to Pig-823 (Hadoop Metadata Service) as Owl has an internal metadata 
 store.  Owl integrates with different storage module like Zebra with a 
 pluggable architecture.
  Initially, the proposal is to submit Owl as a Pig contrib project.  Over 
 time, it makes sense to move it to a Hadoop subproject.

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[jira] Commented: (PIG-1331) Owl Hadoop Table Management Service

2010-05-04 Thread Jay Tang (JIRA)

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Jay Tang commented on PIG-1331:
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Yes, Jeff.  Owl, as a table management service, has a metadata module. Please 
see http://wiki.apache.org/pig/owl for more information.

 Owl Hadoop Table Management Service
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 Key: PIG-1331
 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PIG-1331
 Project: Pig
  Issue Type: New Feature
Affects Versions: 0.8.0
Reporter: Jay Tang
Assignee: Ajay Kidave
 Fix For: 0.8.0

 Attachments: anttestoutput.tgz, build.log, ivy_version.patch, 
 owl.contrib.3.tgz, owl.contrib.4.tar.gz


 This JIRA is a proposal to create a Hadoop table management service: Owl. 
 Today, MapReduce and Pig applications interacts directly with HDFS 
 directories and files and must deal with low level data management issues 
 such as storage format, serialization/compression schemes, data layout, and 
 efficient data accesses, etc, often with different solutions. Owl aims to 
 provide a standard way to addresses this issue and abstracts away the 
 complexities of reading/writing huge amount of data from/to HDFS.
 Owl has a data access API that is modeled after the traditional Hadoop 
 !InputFormt and a management API to manipulate Owl objects.  This JIRA is 
 related to Pig-823 (Hadoop Metadata Service) as Owl has an internal metadata 
 store.  Owl integrates with different storage module like Zebra with a 
 pluggable architecture.
  Initially, the proposal is to submit Owl as a Pig contrib project.  Over 
 time, it makes sense to move it to a Hadoop subproject.

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[jira] Commented: (PIG-1331) Owl Hadoop Table Management Service

2010-05-04 Thread Jeff Hammerbacher (JIRA)

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Jeff Hammerbacher commented on PIG-1331:


Okay, seems like PIG-823 should be closed then. I don't have the ability to do 
that.

 Owl Hadoop Table Management Service
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 Key: PIG-1331
 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PIG-1331
 Project: Pig
  Issue Type: New Feature
Affects Versions: 0.8.0
Reporter: Jay Tang
Assignee: Ajay Kidave
 Fix For: 0.8.0

 Attachments: anttestoutput.tgz, build.log, ivy_version.patch, 
 owl.contrib.3.tgz, owl.contrib.4.tar.gz


 This JIRA is a proposal to create a Hadoop table management service: Owl. 
 Today, MapReduce and Pig applications interacts directly with HDFS 
 directories and files and must deal with low level data management issues 
 such as storage format, serialization/compression schemes, data layout, and 
 efficient data accesses, etc, often with different solutions. Owl aims to 
 provide a standard way to addresses this issue and abstracts away the 
 complexities of reading/writing huge amount of data from/to HDFS.
 Owl has a data access API that is modeled after the traditional Hadoop 
 !InputFormt and a management API to manipulate Owl objects.  This JIRA is 
 related to Pig-823 (Hadoop Metadata Service) as Owl has an internal metadata 
 store.  Owl integrates with different storage module like Zebra with a 
 pluggable architecture.
  Initially, the proposal is to submit Owl as a Pig contrib project.  Over 
 time, it makes sense to move it to a Hadoop subproject.

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[jira] Commented: (PIG-1331) Owl Hadoop Table Management Service

2010-04-13 Thread Allen Wittenauer (JIRA)

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Allen Wittenauer commented on PIG-1331:
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 Initially, the proposal is to submit Owl as a Pig contrib project. Over time, 
 it makes sense to move it to a Hadoop subproject.

Then shouldn't it start out in Hadoop contrib?

I don't understand why this is under Pig if it is meant for Hadoop-general.

 Owl Hadoop Table Management Service
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 Key: PIG-1331
 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PIG-1331
 Project: Pig
  Issue Type: New Feature
Affects Versions: 0.8.0
Reporter: Jay Tang
 Attachments: anttestoutput.tgz, build.log, ivy_version.patch, 
 owl.contrib.3.tgz, owl.contrib.4.tar.gz


 This JIRA is a proposal to create a Hadoop table management service: Owl. 
 Today, MapReduce and Pig applications interacts directly with HDFS 
 directories and files and must deal with low level data management issues 
 such as storage format, serialization/compression schemes, data layout, and 
 efficient data accesses, etc, often with different solutions. Owl aims to 
 provide a standard way to addresses this issue and abstracts away the 
 complexities of reading/writing huge amount of data from/to HDFS.
 Owl has a data access API that is modeled after the traditional Hadoop 
 !InputFormt and a management API to manipulate Owl objects.  This JIRA is 
 related to Pig-823 (Hadoop Metadata Service) as Owl has an internal metadata 
 store.  Owl integrates with different storage module like Zebra with a 
 pluggable architecture.
  Initially, the proposal is to submit Owl as a Pig contrib project.  Over 
 time, it makes sense to move it to a Hadoop subproject.

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[jira] Commented: (PIG-1331) Owl Hadoop Table Management Service

2010-04-13 Thread Olga Natkovich (JIRA)

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Olga Natkovich commented on PIG-1331:
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Pig will be the first consumer of it because of SQL that we are planning to 
open source shortly. We are open for it to move out once we have an agreement 
on where is should reside permanently.

 Owl Hadoop Table Management Service
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 Key: PIG-1331
 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PIG-1331
 Project: Pig
  Issue Type: New Feature
Affects Versions: 0.8.0
Reporter: Jay Tang
 Attachments: anttestoutput.tgz, build.log, ivy_version.patch, 
 owl.contrib.3.tgz, owl.contrib.4.tar.gz


 This JIRA is a proposal to create a Hadoop table management service: Owl. 
 Today, MapReduce and Pig applications interacts directly with HDFS 
 directories and files and must deal with low level data management issues 
 such as storage format, serialization/compression schemes, data layout, and 
 efficient data accesses, etc, often with different solutions. Owl aims to 
 provide a standard way to addresses this issue and abstracts away the 
 complexities of reading/writing huge amount of data from/to HDFS.
 Owl has a data access API that is modeled after the traditional Hadoop 
 !InputFormt and a management API to manipulate Owl objects.  This JIRA is 
 related to Pig-823 (Hadoop Metadata Service) as Owl has an internal metadata 
 store.  Owl integrates with different storage module like Zebra with a 
 pluggable architecture.
  Initially, the proposal is to submit Owl as a Pig contrib project.  Over 
 time, it makes sense to move it to a Hadoop subproject.

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[jira] Commented: (PIG-1331) Owl Hadoop Table Management Service

2010-04-12 Thread Alan Gates (JIRA)

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Alan Gates commented on PIG-1331:
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Now that I've figured out how to read directions I've run the tests on the new 
patch and they pass.

I've also run javadocs and findbugs and all looks good.

I'll start a vote on whether to accept this as a contrib.

 Owl Hadoop Table Management Service
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 Key: PIG-1331
 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PIG-1331
 Project: Pig
  Issue Type: New Feature
Affects Versions: 0.8.0
Reporter: Jay Tang
 Attachments: anttestoutput.tgz, build.log, ivy_version.patch, 
 owl.contrib.3.tgz, owl.contrib.4.tar.gz


 This JIRA is a proposal to create a Hadoop table management service: Owl. 
 Today, MapReduce and Pig applications interacts directly with HDFS 
 directories and files and must deal with low level data management issues 
 such as storage format, serialization/compression schemes, data layout, and 
 efficient data accesses, etc, often with different solutions. Owl aims to 
 provide a standard way to addresses this issue and abstracts away the 
 complexities of reading/writing huge amount of data from/to HDFS.
 Owl has a data access API that is modeled after the traditional Hadoop 
 !InputFormt and a management API to manipulate Owl objects.  This JIRA is 
 related to Pig-823 (Hadoop Metadata Service) as Owl has an internal metadata 
 store.  Owl integrates with different storage module like Zebra with a 
 pluggable architecture.
  Initially, the proposal is to submit Owl as a Pig contrib project.  Over 
 time, it makes sense to move it to a Hadoop subproject.

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[jira] Commented: (PIG-1331) Owl Hadoop Table Management Service

2010-04-12 Thread Alan Gates (JIRA)

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Alan Gates commented on PIG-1331:
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After looking through the rules it looks like we don't need a vote on contrib 
projects.  This JIRA serves as the place for people to voice their concerns and 
vote for or against.  

I'd like to commit this within a few days unless I hear otherwise.

 Owl Hadoop Table Management Service
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 Key: PIG-1331
 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PIG-1331
 Project: Pig
  Issue Type: New Feature
Affects Versions: 0.8.0
Reporter: Jay Tang
 Attachments: anttestoutput.tgz, build.log, ivy_version.patch, 
 owl.contrib.3.tgz, owl.contrib.4.tar.gz


 This JIRA is a proposal to create a Hadoop table management service: Owl. 
 Today, MapReduce and Pig applications interacts directly with HDFS 
 directories and files and must deal with low level data management issues 
 such as storage format, serialization/compression schemes, data layout, and 
 efficient data accesses, etc, often with different solutions. Owl aims to 
 provide a standard way to addresses this issue and abstracts away the 
 complexities of reading/writing huge amount of data from/to HDFS.
 Owl has a data access API that is modeled after the traditional Hadoop 
 !InputFormt and a management API to manipulate Owl objects.  This JIRA is 
 related to Pig-823 (Hadoop Metadata Service) as Owl has an internal metadata 
 store.  Owl integrates with different storage module like Zebra with a 
 pluggable architecture.
  Initially, the proposal is to submit Owl as a Pig contrib project.  Over 
 time, it makes sense to move it to a Hadoop subproject.

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[jira] Commented: (PIG-1331) Owl Hadoop Table Management Service

2010-04-05 Thread Alan Gates (JIRA)

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Alan Gates commented on PIG-1331:
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Given that hudson can't apply this patch (because it's a .tgz file) I've run 
the parts of the patch test manually.  There are issues with ant test, javadoc, 
and findbugs.

When I try to do ant test I get:

{code}
war:
  [war] Building war: 
/home/gates/src/pig/owl/trunk/contrib/owl/build/owl-0.8.0-dev.war

jetty-stop:

BUILD FAILED
/home/gates/src/pig/owl/trunk/contrib/owl/build.xml:908: Execute failed: 
java.io.IOException: Cannot run program 
/home/gates/src/pig/owl/trunk/contrib/owl/ci//jetty_stop.sh: 
java.io.IOException: error=13, Permission denied
{code}

I see ten warnings when I build.  These are all in the parser so it looks like 
they're ok.

javadoc generates five warnings, which need to be addressed.

findbugs generates one warning:

{code}
Se  org.apache.hadoop.owl.protocol.OwlSchema$OwlColumnSchemaComparable 
implements Comparator but not Serializable


Bug type SE_COMPARATOR_SHOULD_BE_SERIALIZABLE (click for details)
In class org.apache.hadoop.owl.protocol.OwlSchema$OwlColumnSchemaComparable
At OwlSchema.java:[lines 180-185]
Details
SE_COMPARATOR_SHOULD_BE_SERIALIZABLE: Comparator doesn't implement Serializable

This class implements the Comparator interface. You should consider whether or 
not it should also implement the Serializable interface. If a comparator is 
used to construct an ordered collection such as a TreeMap, then the TreeMap 
will be serializable only if the comparator is also serializable. As most 
comparators have little or no state, making them serializable is generally easy 
and good defensive programming. 
{code}

Rat only complains about files produced by javacc, so that should be fine.

 Owl Hadoop Table Management Service
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 Key: PIG-1331
 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PIG-1331
 Project: Pig
  Issue Type: New Feature
Affects Versions: 0.8.0
Reporter: Jay Tang
 Attachments: build.log, ivy_version.patch, owl.contrib.3.tgz


 This JIRA is a proposal to create a Hadoop table management service: Owl. 
 Today, MapReduce and Pig applications interacts directly with HDFS 
 directories and files and must deal with low level data management issues 
 such as storage format, serialization/compression schemes, data layout, and 
 efficient data accesses, etc, often with different solutions. Owl aims to 
 provide a standard way to addresses this issue and abstracts away the 
 complexities of reading/writing huge amount of data from/to HDFS.
 Owl has a data access API that is modeled after the traditional Hadoop 
 !InputFormt and a management API to manipulate Owl objects.  This JIRA is 
 related to Pig-823 (Hadoop Metadata Service) as Owl has an internal metadata 
 store.  Owl integrates with different storage module like Zebra with a 
 pluggable architecture.
  Initially, the proposal is to submit Owl as a Pig contrib project.  Over 
 time, it makes sense to move it to a Hadoop subproject.

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[jira] Commented: (PIG-1331) Owl Hadoop Table Management Service

2010-04-05 Thread Alan Gates (JIRA)

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Alan Gates commented on PIG-1331:
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Alright, after reading the directions and doing the chmod before running the 
tests I get the tests to run.  However, I see a number of failures.  I've 
attached the logs from the run.

It looks like the jetty server isn't running or isn't accepting connections.  
Did I miss another step?

 Owl Hadoop Table Management Service
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 Key: PIG-1331
 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PIG-1331
 Project: Pig
  Issue Type: New Feature
Affects Versions: 0.8.0
Reporter: Jay Tang
 Attachments: build.log, ivy_version.patch, owl.contrib.3.tgz


 This JIRA is a proposal to create a Hadoop table management service: Owl. 
 Today, MapReduce and Pig applications interacts directly with HDFS 
 directories and files and must deal with low level data management issues 
 such as storage format, serialization/compression schemes, data layout, and 
 efficient data accesses, etc, often with different solutions. Owl aims to 
 provide a standard way to addresses this issue and abstracts away the 
 complexities of reading/writing huge amount of data from/to HDFS.
 Owl has a data access API that is modeled after the traditional Hadoop 
 !InputFormt and a management API to manipulate Owl objects.  This JIRA is 
 related to Pig-823 (Hadoop Metadata Service) as Owl has an internal metadata 
 store.  Owl integrates with different storage module like Zebra with a 
 pluggable architecture.
  Initially, the proposal is to submit Owl as a Pig contrib project.  Over 
 time, it makes sense to move it to a Hadoop subproject.

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[jira] Commented: (PIG-1331) Owl Hadoop Table Management Service

2010-03-31 Thread Jay Tang (JIRA)

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Jay Tang commented on PIG-1331:
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There seems to be an issue with maven repo.  We'll attach jar files and update 
build scripts.

 Owl Hadoop Table Management Service
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 Key: PIG-1331
 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PIG-1331
 Project: Pig
  Issue Type: New Feature
Affects Versions: 0.8.0
Reporter: Jay Tang
 Attachments: build.log, owl.contrib.3.tgz


 This JIRA is a proposal to create a Hadoop table management service: Owl. 
 Today, MapReduce and Pig applications interacts directly with HDFS 
 directories and files and must deal with low level data management issues 
 such as storage format, serialization/compression schemes, data layout, and 
 efficient data accesses, etc, often with different solutions. Owl aims to 
 provide a standard way to addresses this issue and abstracts away the 
 complexities of reading/writing huge amount of data from/to HDFS.
 Owl has a data access API that is modeled after the traditional Hadoop 
 !InputFormt and a management API to manipulate Owl objects.  This JIRA is 
 related to Pig-823 (Hadoop Metadata Service) as Owl has an internal metadata 
 store.  Owl integrates with different storage module like Zebra with a 
 pluggable architecture.
  Initially, the proposal is to submit Owl as a Pig contrib project.  Over 
 time, it makes sense to move it to a Hadoop subproject.

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[jira] Commented: (PIG-1331) Owl Hadoop Table Management Service

2010-03-31 Thread Ajay Kidave (JIRA)

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Ajay Kidave commented on PIG-1331:
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The build output shows that Alan's build used ivy-2.0.0-rc2.jar (which is what 
Pig uses), Owl includes ivy-2.1.0.jar. The Owl build works with ivy 2.1.

 Owl Hadoop Table Management Service
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 Key: PIG-1331
 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PIG-1331
 Project: Pig
  Issue Type: New Feature
Affects Versions: 0.8.0
Reporter: Jay Tang
 Attachments: build.log, owl.contrib.3.tgz


 This JIRA is a proposal to create a Hadoop table management service: Owl. 
 Today, MapReduce and Pig applications interacts directly with HDFS 
 directories and files and must deal with low level data management issues 
 such as storage format, serialization/compression schemes, data layout, and 
 efficient data accesses, etc, often with different solutions. Owl aims to 
 provide a standard way to addresses this issue and abstracts away the 
 complexities of reading/writing huge amount of data from/to HDFS.
 Owl has a data access API that is modeled after the traditional Hadoop 
 !InputFormt and a management API to manipulate Owl objects.  This JIRA is 
 related to Pig-823 (Hadoop Metadata Service) as Owl has an internal metadata 
 store.  Owl integrates with different storage module like Zebra with a 
 pluggable architecture.
  Initially, the proposal is to submit Owl as a Pig contrib project.  Over 
 time, it makes sense to move it to a Hadoop subproject.

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[jira] Commented: (PIG-1331) Owl Hadoop Table Management Service

2010-03-31 Thread Ajay Kidave (JIRA)

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Ajay Kidave commented on PIG-1331:
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If ant still uses the older ivy version, this might be because the older 
version of ivy jar file is present in $ANT_HOME/lib or ~/.ant/lib. Removing the 
older version jar from these locations should cause ivy 2.1 to be used.

 Owl Hadoop Table Management Service
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 Key: PIG-1331
 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PIG-1331
 Project: Pig
  Issue Type: New Feature
Affects Versions: 0.8.0
Reporter: Jay Tang
 Attachments: build.log, ivy_version.patch, owl.contrib.3.tgz


 This JIRA is a proposal to create a Hadoop table management service: Owl. 
 Today, MapReduce and Pig applications interacts directly with HDFS 
 directories and files and must deal with low level data management issues 
 such as storage format, serialization/compression schemes, data layout, and 
 efficient data accesses, etc, often with different solutions. Owl aims to 
 provide a standard way to addresses this issue and abstracts away the 
 complexities of reading/writing huge amount of data from/to HDFS.
 Owl has a data access API that is modeled after the traditional Hadoop 
 !InputFormt and a management API to manipulate Owl objects.  This JIRA is 
 related to Pig-823 (Hadoop Metadata Service) as Owl has an internal metadata 
 store.  Owl integrates with different storage module like Zebra with a 
 pluggable architecture.
  Initially, the proposal is to submit Owl as a Pig contrib project.  Over 
 time, it makes sense to move it to a Hadoop subproject.

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[jira] Commented: (PIG-1331) Owl Hadoop Table Management Service

2010-03-31 Thread Alan Gates (JIRA)

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Alan Gates commented on PIG-1331:
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After applying the ivy_version patch and removing my cached version of ivy from 
~/.ant/lib the patch compiles.

 Owl Hadoop Table Management Service
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 Key: PIG-1331
 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PIG-1331
 Project: Pig
  Issue Type: New Feature
Affects Versions: 0.8.0
Reporter: Jay Tang
 Attachments: build.log, ivy_version.patch, owl.contrib.3.tgz


 This JIRA is a proposal to create a Hadoop table management service: Owl. 
 Today, MapReduce and Pig applications interacts directly with HDFS 
 directories and files and must deal with low level data management issues 
 such as storage format, serialization/compression schemes, data layout, and 
 efficient data accesses, etc, often with different solutions. Owl aims to 
 provide a standard way to addresses this issue and abstracts away the 
 complexities of reading/writing huge amount of data from/to HDFS.
 Owl has a data access API that is modeled after the traditional Hadoop 
 !InputFormt and a management API to manipulate Owl objects.  This JIRA is 
 related to Pig-823 (Hadoop Metadata Service) as Owl has an internal metadata 
 store.  Owl integrates with different storage module like Zebra with a 
 pluggable architecture.
  Initially, the proposal is to submit Owl as a Pig contrib project.  Over 
 time, it makes sense to move it to a Hadoop subproject.

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[jira] Commented: (PIG-1331) Owl Hadoop Table Management Service

2010-03-30 Thread Alan Gates (JIRA)

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Alan Gates commented on PIG-1331:
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Patch as provided doesn't build.  It gets an ivy error.  I've attached a copy 
of the stdout and stderr from the build run.

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 Key: PIG-1331
 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PIG-1331
 Project: Pig
  Issue Type: New Feature
Affects Versions: 0.8.0
Reporter: Jay Tang
 Attachments: build.log, owl.contrib.3.tgz


 This JIRA is a proposal to create a Hadoop table management service: Owl. 
 Today, MapReduce and Pig applications interacts directly with HDFS 
 directories and files and must deal with low level data management issues 
 such as storage format, serialization/compression schemes, data layout, and 
 efficient data accesses, etc, often with different solutions. Owl aims to 
 provide a standard way to addresses this issue and abstracts away the 
 complexities of reading/writing huge amount of data from/to HDFS.
 Owl has a data access API that is modeled after the traditional Hadoop 
 !InputFormt and a management API to manipulate Owl objects.  This JIRA is 
 related to Pig-823 (Hadoop Metadata Service) as Owl has an internal metadata 
 store.  Owl integrates with different storage module like Zebra with a 
 pluggable architecture.
  Initially, the proposal is to submit Owl as a Pig contrib project.  Over 
 time, it makes sense to move it to a Hadoop subproject.

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[jira] Commented: (PIG-1331) Owl Hadoop Table Management Service

2010-03-29 Thread Ashish Thusoo (JIRA)

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Ashish Thusoo commented on PIG-1331:


Actually Jay, all those things are also already provided by the Hive metastore 
+ compiler. I thought I would just mention that here - perhaps I am missing 
something..


 Owl Hadoop Table Management Service
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 Key: PIG-1331
 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PIG-1331
 Project: Pig
  Issue Type: New Feature
Affects Versions: 0.8.0
Reporter: Jay Tang
 Attachments: owl.contrib.3.tgz


 This JIRA is a proposal to create a Hadoop table management service: Owl. 
 Today, MapReduce and Pig applications interacts directly with HDFS 
 directories and files and must deal with low level data management issues 
 such as storage format, serialization/compression schemes, data layout, and 
 efficient data accesses, etc, often with different solutions. Owl aims to 
 provide a standard way to addresses this issue and abstracts away the 
 complexities of reading/writing huge amount of data from/to HDFS.
 Owl has a data access API that is modeled after the traditional Hadoop 
 !InputFormt and a management API to manipulate Owl objects.  This JIRA is 
 related to Pig-823 (Hadoop Metadata Service) as Owl has an internal metadata 
 store.  Owl integrates with different storage module like Zebra with a 
 pluggable architecture.
  Initially, the proposal is to submit Owl as a Pig contrib project.  Over 
 time, it makes sense to move it to a Hadoop subproject.

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[jira] Commented: (PIG-1331) Owl Hadoop Table Management Service

2010-03-29 Thread Jay Tang (JIRA)

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Jay Tang commented on PIG-1331:
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Ashish,  the goal of Owl is to provide a table-like abstraction to manage 
Hadoop data.  The design would allow any customer MapReduce applications, Pig 
Latin, and even Hive query language to consume data via Owl's interface.  Our 
vision is to build a full data life cycle management stack that encompasses 
data creation, notification, consumption, retention, and security management, 
etc.  Owl would make things easier for a MapReduce application writer or for 
someone to build another query processing language on top of it.  We will 
update Owl wikie page with more detailed information.

 Owl Hadoop Table Management Service
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 Key: PIG-1331
 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PIG-1331
 Project: Pig
  Issue Type: New Feature
Affects Versions: 0.8.0
Reporter: Jay Tang
 Attachments: owl.contrib.3.tgz


 This JIRA is a proposal to create a Hadoop table management service: Owl. 
 Today, MapReduce and Pig applications interacts directly with HDFS 
 directories and files and must deal with low level data management issues 
 such as storage format, serialization/compression schemes, data layout, and 
 efficient data accesses, etc, often with different solutions. Owl aims to 
 provide a standard way to addresses this issue and abstracts away the 
 complexities of reading/writing huge amount of data from/to HDFS.
 Owl has a data access API that is modeled after the traditional Hadoop 
 !InputFormt and a management API to manipulate Owl objects.  This JIRA is 
 related to Pig-823 (Hadoop Metadata Service) as Owl has an internal metadata 
 store.  Owl integrates with different storage module like Zebra with a 
 pluggable architecture.
  Initially, the proposal is to submit Owl as a Pig contrib project.  Over 
 time, it makes sense to move it to a Hadoop subproject.

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[jira] Commented: (PIG-1331) Owl Hadoop Table Management Service

2010-03-28 Thread Jay Tang (JIRA)

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Jay Tang commented on PIG-1331:
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Carl, from a serialization/deserialization perspective, the functionality 
appears similar.  Owl also handles other storage layer interactions like data 
pruning.  Owl supports partition and column pruning; we plan to support row 
pruning via predicate pushdown.  The goal is to push data filtering work down.  
If a storage layer does not support a certain filter capability, Owl would 
provide an implementation.  

 Owl Hadoop Table Management Service
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 Key: PIG-1331
 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PIG-1331
 Project: Pig
  Issue Type: New Feature
Affects Versions: 0.8.0
Reporter: Jay Tang
 Attachments: owl.contrib.3.tgz


 This JIRA is a proposal to create a Hadoop table management service: Owl. 
 Today, MapReduce and Pig applications interacts directly with HDFS 
 directories and files and must deal with low level data management issues 
 such as storage format, serialization/compression schemes, data layout, and 
 efficient data accesses, etc, often with different solutions. Owl aims to 
 provide a standard way to addresses this issue and abstracts away the 
 complexities of reading/writing huge amount of data from/to HDFS.
 Owl has a data access API that is modeled after the traditional Hadoop 
 !InputFormt and a management API to manipulate Owl objects.  This JIRA is 
 related to Pig-823 (Hadoop Metadata Service) as Owl has an internal metadata 
 store.  Owl integrates with different storage module like Zebra with a 
 pluggable architecture.
  Initially, the proposal is to submit Owl as a Pig contrib project.  Over 
 time, it makes sense to move it to a Hadoop subproject.

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[jira] Commented: (PIG-1331) Owl Hadoop Table Management Service

2010-03-27 Thread Hadoop QA (JIRA)

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Hadoop QA commented on PIG-1331:


-1 overall.  Here are the results of testing the latest attachment 
  http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12439938/owl.contrib.3.tgz
  against trunk revision 928080.

+1 @author.  The patch does not contain any @author tags.

-1 tests included.  The patch doesn't appear to include any new or modified 
tests.
Please justify why no tests are needed for this patch.

-1 patch.  The patch command could not apply the patch.

Console output: 
http://hudson.zones.apache.org/hudson/job/Pig-Patch-h7.grid.sp2.yahoo.net/253/console

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 Owl Hadoop Table Management Service
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 Key: PIG-1331
 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PIG-1331
 Project: Pig
  Issue Type: New Feature
Affects Versions: 0.8.0
Reporter: Jay Tang
 Attachments: owl.contrib.3.tgz


 This JIRA is a proposal to create a Hadoop table management service: Owl. 
 Today, MapReduce and Pig applications interacts directly with HDFS 
 directories and files and must deal with low level data management issues 
 such as storage format, serialization/compression schemes, data layout, and 
 efficient data accesses, etc, often with different solutions. Owl aims to 
 provide a standard way to addresses this issue and abstracts away the 
 complexities of reading/writing huge amount of data from/to HDFS.
 Owl has a data access API that is modeled after the traditional Hadoop 
 !InputFormt and a management API to manipulate Owl objects.  This JIRA is 
 related to Pig-823 (Hadoop Metadata Service) as Owl has an internal metadata 
 store.  Owl integrates with different storage module like Zebra with a 
 pluggable architecture.
  Initially, the proposal is to submit Owl as a Pig contrib project.  Over 
 time, it makes sense to move it to a Hadoop subproject.

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[jira] Commented: (PIG-1331) Owl Hadoop Table Management Service

2010-03-27 Thread Jay Tang (JIRA)

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Jay Tang commented on PIG-1331:
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Owl's data access API, OwlInputFormat, provides a uniform API to access data 
stored in different storage format like Zebra, RCFile, SequenceFile, etc.  Its 
a single data access abstraction on top of disparate data.

 Owl Hadoop Table Management Service
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 Key: PIG-1331
 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PIG-1331
 Project: Pig
  Issue Type: New Feature
Affects Versions: 0.8.0
Reporter: Jay Tang
 Attachments: owl.contrib.3.tgz


 This JIRA is a proposal to create a Hadoop table management service: Owl. 
 Today, MapReduce and Pig applications interacts directly with HDFS 
 directories and files and must deal with low level data management issues 
 such as storage format, serialization/compression schemes, data layout, and 
 efficient data accesses, etc, often with different solutions. Owl aims to 
 provide a standard way to addresses this issue and abstracts away the 
 complexities of reading/writing huge amount of data from/to HDFS.
 Owl has a data access API that is modeled after the traditional Hadoop 
 !InputFormt and a management API to manipulate Owl objects.  This JIRA is 
 related to Pig-823 (Hadoop Metadata Service) as Owl has an internal metadata 
 store.  Owl integrates with different storage module like Zebra with a 
 pluggable architecture.
  Initially, the proposal is to submit Owl as a Pig contrib project.  Over 
 time, it makes sense to move it to a Hadoop subproject.

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[jira] Commented: (PIG-1331) Owl Hadoop Table Management Service

2010-03-27 Thread Carl Steinbach (JIRA)

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Carl Steinbach commented on PIG-1331:
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bq. Owl's data access API, OwlInputFormat, provides a uniform API to access 
data stored in different storage format like Zebra, RCFile, SequenceFile, etc. 
Its a single data access abstraction on top of disparate data.

This sounds like Hive's SerDe interface. Are there any differences?

 Owl Hadoop Table Management Service
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 Key: PIG-1331
 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PIG-1331
 Project: Pig
  Issue Type: New Feature
Affects Versions: 0.8.0
Reporter: Jay Tang
 Attachments: owl.contrib.3.tgz


 This JIRA is a proposal to create a Hadoop table management service: Owl. 
 Today, MapReduce and Pig applications interacts directly with HDFS 
 directories and files and must deal with low level data management issues 
 such as storage format, serialization/compression schemes, data layout, and 
 efficient data accesses, etc, often with different solutions. Owl aims to 
 provide a standard way to addresses this issue and abstracts away the 
 complexities of reading/writing huge amount of data from/to HDFS.
 Owl has a data access API that is modeled after the traditional Hadoop 
 !InputFormt and a management API to manipulate Owl objects.  This JIRA is 
 related to Pig-823 (Hadoop Metadata Service) as Owl has an internal metadata 
 store.  Owl integrates with different storage module like Zebra with a 
 pluggable architecture.
  Initially, the proposal is to submit Owl as a Pig contrib project.  Over 
 time, it makes sense to move it to a Hadoop subproject.

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[jira] Commented: (PIG-1331) Owl Hadoop Table Management Service

2010-03-26 Thread Santhosh Srinivasan (JIRA)

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Santhosh Srinivasan commented on PIG-1331:
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Jay, 

In PIG-823 there was a discussion around how Owl is different from Hive's 
metastore. Is that still true today? If not, can you elaborate on the key 
differences between the two systems?

Thanks,
Santhosh

 Owl Hadoop Table Management Service
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 Key: PIG-1331
 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PIG-1331
 Project: Pig
  Issue Type: New Feature
Reporter: Jay Tang

 This JIRA is a proposal to create a Hadoop table management service: Owl. 
 Today, MapReduce and Pig applications interacts directly with HDFS 
 directories and files and must deal with low level data management issues 
 such as storage format, serialization/compression schemes, data layout, and 
 efficient data accesses, etc, often with different solutions. Owl aims to 
 provide a standard way to addresses this issue and abstracts away the 
 complexities of reading/writing huge amount of data from/to HDFS.
 Owl has a data access API that is modeled after the traditional Hadoop 
 !InputFormt and a management API to manipulate Owl objects.  This JIRA is 
 related to Pig-823 (Hadoop Metadata Service) as Owl has an internal metadata 
 store.  Owl integrates with different storage module like Zebra with a 
 pluggable architecture.
  Initially, the proposal is to submit Owl as a Pig contrib project.  Over 
 time, it makes sense to move it to a Hadoop subproject.

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[jira] Commented: (PIG-1331) Owl Hadoop Table Management Service

2010-03-26 Thread Jay Tang (JIRA)

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Jay Tang commented on PIG-1331:
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Owl has an internal metastore that has a similar relational table and partition 
model with Hive's metastore.  Owl goes beyond this and provides a uniform data 
access mechanism on top of multiple storage format.  This interface can be 
leveraged by Pig and MapReduce applications.  There is room for collaboration 
between Owl and Hive so that we could eventually converge on a common metastore 
for Hadoop.

 Owl Hadoop Table Management Service
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 Key: PIG-1331
 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PIG-1331
 Project: Pig
  Issue Type: New Feature
Reporter: Jay Tang

 This JIRA is a proposal to create a Hadoop table management service: Owl. 
 Today, MapReduce and Pig applications interacts directly with HDFS 
 directories and files and must deal with low level data management issues 
 such as storage format, serialization/compression schemes, data layout, and 
 efficient data accesses, etc, often with different solutions. Owl aims to 
 provide a standard way to addresses this issue and abstracts away the 
 complexities of reading/writing huge amount of data from/to HDFS.
 Owl has a data access API that is modeled after the traditional Hadoop 
 !InputFormt and a management API to manipulate Owl objects.  This JIRA is 
 related to Pig-823 (Hadoop Metadata Service) as Owl has an internal metadata 
 store.  Owl integrates with different storage module like Zebra with a 
 pluggable architecture.
  Initially, the proposal is to submit Owl as a Pig contrib project.  Over 
 time, it makes sense to move it to a Hadoop subproject.

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