RE: piler and public folders

2015-04-23 Thread srisinger
 Hello Stephen,

 if you referred to Adam's email (~a year ago), see the following url
 (http://www.mail-archive.com/piler-user@list.acts.hu/msg00589.html),
 then it's actually ready.

That's the email chain I was reading, actually.

 One thing has changed, though: it's '-a' (not -R). If you have something 
 different
 in mind, then let me know, and I'll try to solve it.

That's what I was looking for. Is there documentation that lists how to use the 
'-a' switch? If it's possible to directly import my public folders, rather than 
exporting to pst, then doing readpst to convert and import them, that is 
preferable!

-- 
Regards,

Stephen Risinger
Systems Administrator



RE: piler and public folders

2015-04-23 Thread Janos SUTO


Hello Stephen,

On 2015-04-22 21:12, srisin...@meintl.com wrote:


Were you able to implement the -R option for pilerimport? How
should/could that be used for public folders?



if you referred to Adam's email (~a year ago), see the following url
(http://www.mail-archive.com/piler-user@list.acts.hu/msg00589.html),
then it's actually ready.

To quote an old email:

a similar approach may work out. I'll hack the pilerimport utility to 
add a new

option, eg. -R shared-folder@company, then piler adds this as an extra
address to the email. Then one more task to do: have all users to be in 
a group
allowed to access this artificial email. Perhaps it could be more easily 
done
by creating a distribution list in Active Directory, and make sure 
everyone is

member of it.


One thing has changed, though: it's '-a' (not -R). If you have something 
different

in mind, then let me know, and I'll try to solve it.

Janos




Re: piler and public folders

2014-06-03 Thread Janos SUTO


Hello Adam,

On 2014-06-03 12:54, Adam Camp wrote:


The client has several employees, all accessing their own individual
mailboxes. When they receive e-mails from certain suppliers/clients,
they are moved from their personal mailbox to a shared folder.

Now, for our own office use, all our incoming and outgoing e-mails
are forwarded into piler for processing. For our customer it wouldn't
be practical to allow all users access to search each others'
mailboxes.

Therefore, I'm asking, how would we go about archiving the messages
in the public store? It's possible that some of the sub-folders have
restrictions, but I believe these are just write restrictions, not
read restrictions (which obviously won't affect archiving). I'm
guessing that perhaps this would take the form of an IMAP import
targeting the public store, run as a cron job? And let the original
copies of the e-mails stay in the users archives as deduplication will
step in here?



well, piler knows nothing about folders, it knows only email addresses.

So no matter what permissions a user has on the shared folder with his
mail application (let's assume Outlook for now) piler gives him access
to only those emails he sent or received based on the email address in
the email headers, eg. From, To and Cc.

If your customer had Exchange for instance, then the piler gui could 
assemble
a list of emails that the given user is associated with including 
distribution
lists, then apply this as a filter to restrict him to his own emails 
only.


With Exchange I think you may not need to handle the shared folder in 
regard
of email archiving, since Exchange can pass a copy of each received 
email to

piler no matter how it will process it later.

Janos



RE: piler and public folders

2014-06-03 Thread Adam Camp
Hi Janos,

Thanks for your response. To clarify, I think what the customer is looking for, 
is to be able to search the archive for e-mails that have been placed in the 
public store. The e-mail may have been placed in the public store by a 
different user, therefore the searching user should be able to see other users' 
e-mails that have been made public - but not other users' private e-mails.

I appreciate that this is a tricky one, they are used to the Folder View in 
Outlook, so that is how they are currently envisaging an archive working. Would 
it be possible, for instance, to target a specific folder with the pilerimport 
utility, and then tag all the e-mails imported in this way, as belonging to a 
certain e-mail address (in this case, a distribution list maybe) in order that 
everyone can view them?

I know ultimately the e-mails will be archived, and therefore safe, as all 
inbound e-mails will be archived - however the trick here is going to be 
allowing access to the messages.

Thanks

Adam


-Original Message-
From: Janos SUTO [mailto:s...@acts.hu] 
Sent: 03 June 2014 12:17
To: piler-user@list.acts.hu
Subject: Re: piler and public folders


Hello Adam,

On 2014-06-03 12:54, Adam Camp wrote:
 
--snip--
 
 Therefore, I'm asking, how would we go about archiving the messages in 
 the public store? It's possible that some of the sub-folders have 
 restrictions, but I believe these are just write restrictions, not 
 read restrictions (which obviously won't affect archiving). I'm 
 guessing that perhaps this would take the form of an IMAP import 
 targeting the public store, run as a cron job? And let the original 
 copies of the e-mails stay in the users archives as deduplication will 
 step in here?
 

well, piler knows nothing about folders, it knows only email addresses.

So no matter what permissions a user has on the shared folder with his mail 
application (let's assume Outlook for now) piler gives him access to only those 
emails he sent or received based on the email address in the email headers, eg. 
From, To and Cc.

If your customer had Exchange for instance, then the piler gui could assemble a 
list of emails that the given user is associated with including distribution 
lists, then apply this as a filter to restrict him to his own emails only.

With Exchange I think you may not need to handle the shared folder in regard of 
email archiving, since Exchange can pass a copy of each received email to piler 
no matter how it will process it later.

Janos