Re: Enterprise edition
It's ok. Btw. thanks Martin reporting the website issue. The site's cache was corrupted, now it's back online. Janos On 2020-07-22 21:17, Marcelo Machado wrote: Janos, I'm sorry if I was misunderstood. I didn't know the piler.com [1] website and I accidentally entered it thinking I was accessing the piler.org [2] website. It was a mess on my part so I asked the question. Sorry if I caused a problem. Marcelo Em qua., 22 de jul. de 2020 às 16:08, escreveu: I'd like to clarify a few things. I'll use the following conventions in this email to distinguish between the open source and commercial editions of piler: - 'piler': the open source email archiving project - 'piler-ee': the commercial, enterprise version of piler I'm a huge fan of open source projects, and even though I'm working on a paid, commercial product of piler-ee, I'd like to emphasize that - I intend to keep piler open source, you have access to the source code - I won't remove any feature from piler to make piler-ee more attractive - I won't force you to switch to piler-ee* - You can use piler for whatever purposes absolutely free of charge Note that despite piler doesn't have the word 'enterprise' among its adjectives, it doesn't mean it's a crappy product you shouldn't use it for company purposes. It's quite the opposite. I believe that piler is a decent product for a secure email archive (especially if you regularly backup its key components, but that's a story for another day). However, I've been looking for ways to monetize the popularity of piler, so I've decided to fork it, and been working on piler-ee, including commercial services as well even for piler. *: check out https://mailpiler.com/ if you are curious what piler-ee offers for you. Janos On 2020-07-22 18:07, Martin Nadvornik wrote: Hi Marcelo, can't speek for Janos, the developer of Piler, but I am not aware of any changes. What did you read that leads you into thinking piler is not open source anymore? The source code is available like always at https://bitbucket.org/jsuto/piler/src/master/ and the master branch had the last commit 4 days ago... There has always been an enterprise edition (at least as long as I know the project) but you are not required to pay anything to use piler when using the open source version. Or maybe you got confused because the site currently seems a bit broken and clicking on "GoBD notes" leads to the enterprise documentation. The normal documentation ist still reachable under http://www.mailpiler.org/wiki/current:index however. Janos: FYI the website seems broken. I guess "Please fill or disable this placeholder" is not something that is supposed to be there :) Regards, Martin Am 2020-07-22 17:51, schrieb Marcelo Machado: Hello everyone. Is Mail Piler only commercial now? Does the Open Source Edition still exist? Marcelo Gomes Links: -- [1] http://piler.com [2] http://piler.org
Re: Enterprise edition
Janos, I'm sorry if I was misunderstood. I didn't know the piler.com website and I accidentally entered it thinking I was accessing the piler.org website. It was a mess on my part so I asked the question. Sorry if I caused a problem. Marcelo Em qua., 22 de jul. de 2020 às 16:08, escreveu: > > > I'd like to clarify a few things. I'll use the following conventions > in this email to distinguish between the open source and commercial > editions of piler: > > - 'piler': the open source email archiving project > - 'piler-ee': the commercial, enterprise version of piler > > > I'm a huge fan of open source projects, and even though I'm working on a > paid, commercial product of piler-ee, I'd like to emphasize that > > - I intend to keep piler open source, you have access to the source code > - I won't remove any feature from piler to make piler-ee more attractive > - I won't force you to switch to piler-ee* > - You can use piler for whatever purposes absolutely free of charge > > > Note that despite piler doesn't have the word 'enterprise' among its > adjectives, > it doesn't mean it's a crappy product you shouldn't use it for company > purposes. It's quite the opposite. I believe that piler is a decent > product > for a secure email archive (especially if you regularly backup its key > components, > but that's a story for another day). > > However, I've been looking for ways to monetize the popularity of piler, > so I've decided to fork it, and been working on piler-ee, including > commercial > services as well even for piler. > > *: check out https://mailpiler.com/ if you are curious what piler-ee > offers for you. > > > Janos > > > On 2020-07-22 18:07, Martin Nadvornik wrote: > > Hi Marcelo, > > > > can't speek for Janos, the developer of Piler, but I am not aware of > > any changes. What did you read that leads you into thinking piler is > > not open source anymore? > > The source code is available like always at > > https://bitbucket.org/jsuto/piler/src/master/ and the master branch > > had the last commit 4 days ago... > > > > There has always been an enterprise edition (at least as long as I > > know the project) but you are not required to pay anything to use > > piler when using the open source version. > > > > Or maybe you got confused because the site currently seems a bit > > broken and clicking on "GoBD notes" leads to the enterprise > > documentation. The normal documentation ist still reachable under > > http://www.mailpiler.org/wiki/current:index however. > > > > Janos: FYI the website seems broken. I guess "Please fill or disable > > this placeholder" is not something that is supposed to be there :) > > > > Regards, > > Martin > > > > Am 2020-07-22 17:51, schrieb Marcelo Machado: > >> Hello everyone. > >> > >> Is Mail Piler only commercial now? > >> > >> Does the Open Source Edition still exist? > >> > >> Marcelo Gomes > >
Re: Enterprise edition
I'd like to clarify a few things. I'll use the following conventions in this email to distinguish between the open source and commercial editions of piler: - 'piler': the open source email archiving project - 'piler-ee': the commercial, enterprise version of piler I'm a huge fan of open source projects, and even though I'm working on a paid, commercial product of piler-ee, I'd like to emphasize that - I intend to keep piler open source, you have access to the source code - I won't remove any feature from piler to make piler-ee more attractive - I won't force you to switch to piler-ee* - You can use piler for whatever purposes absolutely free of charge Note that despite piler doesn't have the word 'enterprise' among its adjectives, it doesn't mean it's a crappy product you shouldn't use it for company purposes. It's quite the opposite. I believe that piler is a decent product for a secure email archive (especially if you regularly backup its key components, but that's a story for another day). However, I've been looking for ways to monetize the popularity of piler, so I've decided to fork it, and been working on piler-ee, including commercial services as well even for piler. *: check out https://mailpiler.com/ if you are curious what piler-ee offers for you. Janos On 2020-07-22 18:07, Martin Nadvornik wrote: Hi Marcelo, can't speek for Janos, the developer of Piler, but I am not aware of any changes. What did you read that leads you into thinking piler is not open source anymore? The source code is available like always at https://bitbucket.org/jsuto/piler/src/master/ and the master branch had the last commit 4 days ago... There has always been an enterprise edition (at least as long as I know the project) but you are not required to pay anything to use piler when using the open source version. Or maybe you got confused because the site currently seems a bit broken and clicking on "GoBD notes" leads to the enterprise documentation. The normal documentation ist still reachable under http://www.mailpiler.org/wiki/current:index however. Janos: FYI the website seems broken. I guess "Please fill or disable this placeholder" is not something that is supposed to be there :) Regards, Martin Am 2020-07-22 17:51, schrieb Marcelo Machado: Hello everyone. Is Mail Piler only commercial now? Does the Open Source Edition still exist? Marcelo Gomes
Re: Enterprise edition
Hi Marcelo, can't speek for Janos, the developer of Piler, but I am not aware of any changes. What did you read that leads you into thinking piler is not open source anymore? The source code is available like always at https://bitbucket.org/jsuto/piler/src/master/ and the master branch had the last commit 4 days ago... There has always been an enterprise edition (at least as long as I know the project) but you are not required to pay anything to use piler when using the open source version. Or maybe you got confused because the site currently seems a bit broken and clicking on "GoBD notes" leads to the enterprise documentation. The normal documentation ist still reachable under http://www.mailpiler.org/wiki/current:index however. Janos: FYI the website seems broken. I guess "Please fill or disable this placeholder" is not something that is supposed to be there :) Regards, Martin Am 2020-07-22 17:51, schrieb Marcelo Machado: Hello everyone. Is Mail Piler only commercial now? Does the Open Source Edition still exist? Marcelo Gomes
Re: Enterprise edition
Sorry, Please disregard the previous message. Marcelo Em qua., 22 de jul. de 2020 às 12:51, Marcelo Machado escreveu: > Hello everyone. > > Is Mail Piler only commercial now? > > Does the Open Source Edition still exist? > > Marcelo Gomes >
