Re: [pinhole-discussion] reciprocity failure and development times

2002-06-27 Thread G.Penate
- Original Message - From: "D Hill" > > Amen Leonard! You're the king! King of the Hill :-)

Re: [pinhole-discussion] reciprocity failure and development times

2002-06-27 Thread D Hill
Amen Leonard! You're the king! Don Leonard Peterson wrote: I know, from working years in a camera store and teaching photography classes, the following: Lots and lots of picture takers talk and talk techniques to death and never making any prints. The only way to find something out is to

[pinhole-discussion] reciprocity failure and development times

2002-06-27 Thread Leonard Peterson
I know, from working years in a camera store and teaching photography classes, the following: Lots and lots of picture takers talk and talk techniques to death and never making any prints. The only way to find something out is to TRY IT! In regards to reciprocity failure and development times

Re: [pinhole-discussion] reciprocity failure and development times

2002-06-24 Thread b1jmgj58
George This is not an actual increase in development at all this is actually washing out the developer in the highlights and allowing the shadow values to develop very very slowly. This slow development actually brings full detail to the shadow areas and the highlight areas do not overdevelop.

Re: [pinhole-discussion] reciprocity failure and development times

2002-06-24 Thread George L Smyth
Jay - If reciprocity failure has caused an underexposure of the scene, then increasing the development is simply going to increase the contrast of the scene. If shadow values have not received enough exposure, then no amount of developing is going to bring them back. Cheers - george --- b1jm

Re: [pinhole-discussion] reciprocity failure and development times

2002-06-24 Thread George L Smyth
--- "gregg b. mc neill" wrote: [clip] > The whole thing about overexpose and under develop, or underexpose to over > develop never made sense to me as the conditions under which I shoot could > change mid-roll. > > gregg mcneill Actually, this has more to do with working with sheet film, as o

Re: [pinhole-discussion] reciprocity failure and development times

2002-06-24 Thread Shannon Stoney
eet film so I do pay attention to exposure vs development for each exposure, but as it turns out, it's unnecessary to make additional corrections with HP5+ in development times for long exposures. --shannon -- >From: "gregg b. mc neill" >To: pinhole-discussion@p

Re: [pinhole-discussion] reciprocity failure and development times

2002-06-24 Thread b1jmgj58
Hello Shannon, For longer exposures I always use a water / developer technique. I expose my film normally and figure any reciprocity law failure as need and factor that into my development time like usual. I ususally use this process when I shoot at night but it also works for long exposures dur

Re: [pinhole-discussion] reciprocity failure and development times

2002-06-24 Thread gregg b. mc neill
I, too have been noodling this. I've had sucess with taking care of all of the reciprocity corrections at the time of exposure. I process normal. The whole thing about overexpose and under develop, or underexpose to over develop never made sense to me as the conditions under which I shoot cou

[pinhole-discussion] reciprocity failure and development times

2002-06-24 Thread Shannon Stoney
Sorry to have a one track mind, but I am still thinking about whether you need to change your development times when you make long exposures. The theory seems to be that highlights expose more than shadows during long exposures, so that you should under-develop. But, when I do this the highlights