Bug#793938: [LCFC] templates://openstreetmap-carto/{templates}

2015-08-23 Thread Sebastiaan Couwenberg
On 23-08-15 11:46, Justin B Rye wrote:
> Sebastiaan Couwenberg wrote:
>> Justin B Rye wrote:
>>> We never did find out *why* this package downloads stuff from the
>>> Internet.
>>
>> Because it needs the Natural Earth data to render the default style. The
>> shapefiles are referenced in the various style sources (.mml files).
> 
> Lots of Debian software requires data files.  Normally the result is
> that these dependencies go into data packages, like for instance
> openstreetmap-icons.
> 
>> Updates to the various shapefiles happen separately from each other,
>> they get aggregated in openstreetmap-carto to assemble it into a worldmap.
>>
>> The above is only a clearification, don't quote it in the debconf templates.
> 
> If I ever found out why this package downloads stuff from the
> Internet rather than just expressing a dependency on a data package
> that contains it, I would ask for that information to go in the
> package description.
> 
> Is it perhaps because the data is non-free?
>  (No, that can't be right or it wouldn't be in main.)
> Is it perhaps because the dataset requires very frequently updates?
>  (In which case I might want to re-run the installer regularly...)
> Is it perhaps because the dataset is huge?
>  (In which case I might want to schedule the install for the weekend.)

The latter two seem to be applicable to openstreetmap-carto, the data is
not non-free.

> Whatever the explanation is, it would probably only require the
> addition of a single word into the phrase "necessary shapefiles" in
> the long description - something like "up-to-date" or "multigigabyte".
> 
> (I don't know why it is that package descriptions for downloader
> packages are always so unclear about the point of the exercise, but
> your package hit debian-l10n-english at the same time as two others
> that were equally uninformative - in one case supposedly for legal
> reasons!)

That's easily explained by their respective upstreams being equally
unclear about those issues.

Kind Regards,

Bas

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Bug#793938: [LCFC] templates://openstreetmap-carto/{templates}

2015-08-23 Thread Justin B Rye
Sebastiaan Couwenberg wrote:
> Justin B Rye wrote:
>> We never did find out *why* this package downloads stuff from the
>> Internet.
> 
> Because it needs the Natural Earth data to render the default style. The
> shapefiles are referenced in the various style sources (.mml files).

Lots of Debian software requires data files.  Normally the result is
that these dependencies go into data packages, like for instance
openstreetmap-icons.

> Updates to the various shapefiles happen separately from each other,
> they get aggregated in openstreetmap-carto to assemble it into a worldmap.
> 
> The above is only a clearification, don't quote it in the debconf templates.

If I ever found out why this package downloads stuff from the
Internet rather than just expressing a dependency on a data package
that contains it, I would ask for that information to go in the
package description.

Is it perhaps because the data is non-free?
 (No, that can't be right or it wouldn't be in main.)
Is it perhaps because the dataset requires very frequently updates?
 (In which case I might want to re-run the installer regularly...)
Is it perhaps because the dataset is huge?
 (In which case I might want to schedule the install for the weekend.)

Whatever the explanation is, it would probably only require the
addition of a single word into the phrase "necessary shapefiles" in
the long description - something like "up-to-date" or "multigigabyte".

(I don't know why it is that package descriptions for downloader
packages are always so unclear about the point of the exercise, but
your package hit debian-l10n-english at the same time as two others
that were equally uninformative - in one case supposedly for legal
reasons!)
-- 
JBR with qualifications in linguistics, experience as a Debian
sysadmin, and probably no clue about this particular package

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Bug#793938: [LCFC] templates://openstreetmap-carto/{templates}

2015-08-23 Thread Sebastiaan Couwenberg
On 23-08-15 10:51, Justin B Rye wrote:
> Christian PERRIER wrote:
>> This is the last call for comments for the review of debconf
>> templates for openstreetmap-carto.
> 
> We never did find out *why* this package downloads stuff from the
> Internet.

Because it needs the Natural Earth data to render the default style. The
shapefiles are referenced in the various style sources (.mml files).

Updates to the various shapefiles happen separately from each other,
they get aggregated in openstreetmap-carto to assemble it into a worldmap.

The above is only a clearification, don't quote it in the debconf templates.

Kind Regards,

Bas

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Bug#793938: [LCFC] templates://openstreetmap-carto/{templates}

2015-08-23 Thread Justin B Rye
Christian PERRIER wrote:
> This is the last call for comments for the review of debconf
> templates for openstreetmap-carto.

We never did find out *why* this package downloads stuff from the
Internet.
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sysadmin, and probably no clue about this particular package

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Bug#793938: [LCFC] templates://openstreetmap-carto/{templates}

2015-08-23 Thread Christian PERRIER
This is the last call for comments for the review of debconf
templates for openstreetmap-carto.

The reviewed templates will be sent on Tuesday, August 25, 2015 to this bug 
report
and a mail will be sent to this list with "[BTS]" as a subject tag.


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Template: openstreetmap-carto/fetch-data
Type: boolean
_Description: Download OpenStreetMap data files from the Internet?
 The openstreetmap-carto stylesheet uses several data files that must
 be downloaded from the Internet. 
 .
 If you choose not to do this now, it can be done manually later
 by running the "get-shapefiles.sh" script in the /usr/share/openstreetmap-carto
 directory.

Template: openstreetmap-carto/database-name
Type: string
Default: gis
_Description: PostgreSQL database name:
 The openstreetmap-carto stylesheet uses a PostgreSQL database to
 store OpenStreetMap data.
 .
 Please choose the name for this database.
Source: openstreetmap-carto
Maintainer: Debian GIS Project 
Uploaders: Christopher Baines 
Section: graphics
Priority: optional
Build-Depends: debhelper (>= 9.0.0),
   node-carto,
   po-debconf
Standards-Version: 3.9.6
Vcs-Browser: https://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-grass/openstreetmap-carto.git
Vcs-Git: git://anonscm.debian.org/pkg-grass/openstreetmap-carto.git
Homepage: https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto

Package: openstreetmap-carto
Architecture: all
Depends: ${misc:Depends},
 ttf-dejavu,
 curl,
 unzip,
 gdal-bin,
 mapnik-utils
Recommends: fonts-sipa-arundina,
fonts-sil-padauk,
fonts-khmeros
Description: standard OpenStreetMap Mapnik stylesheet
 This package provides the standard OpenStreetMap stylesheet for Mapnik, built
 from the CartoCSS source. It also provides the necessary icons, and the script
 to download the necessary shapefiles.
 .
 This package does not provide a tileserver, or perform tile rendering.


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