Re: [DebianGIS-dev] Bug#588812: lists.debian.org: Please create Debian GIS mailing list
On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 04:23:53PM +0100, Francesco P. Lovergine wrote: Ok, as asked by the originator of this request, currently I see no specific problems in moving to use debian-...@l.d.o and debian-gis-committ...@l.d.o, Just to clarify the list request issue (where I was the originator): The main point is not *moving* the content of one currently existing list into two (how should be thia done?) but rather *creating* a new list for general discussion of GIS in Debian issues. The existence of such a list has turned out to have a positive effect regarding the communication between users and developers especially to gather new developers for the team. In short: the current developer oriented list which is used to discuss mostly pure packaging issues is not affected by my *original* suggestion. but for the fact that the the main list is an open one (with probably a better antispam management). Other people did express some concerns about that. Note that also the current pkg-grass-devel list is open, but rules are good enough to avoid spamming AFAIK. My own pro is that I could avoid to loose time to manage the two lists :) About the history, as explained on the wiki: An existing mailing list can be moved to lists.debian.org: the administrator of the list has to submit a request as described above and provide us with a list of subscribers (in plain text format, one address per line). Archives of the existing list can also be imported from files in mbox format (preferably split per month). So I *think* the past history could be moved from alioth to lists.d.o. I can surely provide a subscribers list too. The discussion was somehow extended by the suggestion to solve the confusion about the naming of the developer oriented list. I agree with this suggestion but it is a separate issue (even if it has the same goal in mind). If I remember right the suggestion was also not to move the developer list from alioth to l.d.o. Usually you find the developer oriented lists at alioth and I do not see any reason for changing this. I would welcome if we would not spoil the original discussion with this issue because it obviosely has created more confusion than needed. Kind regards Andreas. -- http://fam-tille.de ___ Pkg-grass-devel mailing list Pkg-grass-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/pkg-grass-devel
Re: [DebianGIS-dev] Bug#588812: lists.debian.org: Please create Debian GIS mailing list
On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 09:17:30AM +0100, Andreas Tille wrote: On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 04:23:53PM +0100, Francesco P. Lovergine wrote: Ok, as asked by the originator of this request, currently I see no specific problems in moving to use debian-...@l.d.o and debian-gis-committ...@l.d.o, Just to clarify the list request issue (where I was the originator): The main point is not *moving* the content of one currently existing list into two (how should be thia done?) but rather *creating* a new list for general discussion of GIS in Debian issues. The existence of such a list has turned out to have a positive effect regarding the communication between users and developers especially to gather new developers for the team. In short: the current developer oriented list which is used to discuss mostly pure packaging issues is not affected by my *original* suggestion. Sorry Andreas, but if I understood correctly your suggestion, you are proposing a non-packaging list for GIS related topics in Debian? I found that interesting but quite a duplicate of the -general list whose topic was from start discussing packaging issues AND other GIS related topic. So IMHO it makes sense moving the whole list in any case, to avoid unuseful duplicates. -- Francesco P. Lovergine ___ Pkg-grass-devel mailing list Pkg-grass-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/pkg-grass-devel
Re: [DebianGIS-dev] Bug#588812: lists.debian.org: Please create Debian GIS mailing list
Hi Francesco, uhmm, I I think I added even more confusioin to this issue than it was. Sorry for this. On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 03:28:30PM +0100, Francesco P. Lovergine wrote: Sorry Andreas, but if I understood correctly your suggestion, you are proposing a non-packaging list for GIS related topics in Debian? I found that interesting but quite a duplicate of the -general list whose topic was from start discussing packaging issues AND other GIS related topic. So IMHO it makes sense moving the whole list in any case, to avoid unuseful duplicates. Yes, you are perfectly right. The content of -general should be moved do debian-...@lists.debian.org. We should discuss the pkg-grass-devel issue in a different thread to not mix up things that much. Kind regards Andreas. -- http://fam-tille.de ___ Pkg-grass-devel mailing list Pkg-grass-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/pkg-grass-devel
Re: [DebianGIS-dev] Bug#588812: lists.debian.org: Please create Debian GIS mailing list
Ok, as asked by the originator of this request, currently I see no specific problems in moving to use debian-...@l.d.o and debian-gis-committ...@l.d.o, but for the fact that the the main list is an open one (with probably a better antispam management). Other people did express some concerns about that. Note that also the current pkg-grass-devel list is open, but rules are good enough to avoid spamming AFAIK. My own pro is that I could avoid to loose time to manage the two lists :) About the history, as explained on the wiki: An existing mailing list can be moved to lists.debian.org: the administrator of the list has to submit a request as described above and provide us with a list of subscribers (in plain text format, one address per line). Archives of the existing list can also be imported from files in mbox format (preferably split per month). So I *think* the past history could be moved from alioth to lists.d.o. I can surely provide a subscribers list too. -- Francesco P. Lovergine ___ Pkg-grass-devel mailing list Pkg-grass-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/pkg-grass-devel
