Bug#893561: libtablelayout-java: license does not seem to meet the DFSG

2018-04-15 Thread Francesco Poli 
On Thu, 29 Mar 2018 00:09:47 +0200 Emmanuel Bourg wrote:

> Le 28/03/2018 à 23:34, Francesco Poli a écrit :
> 
> > In other words, can someone develop a fork of libtablelayout-java (with
> > the namespace changed to a different one) which works as a drop-in
> > replacement for the original libtablelayout-java?
> 
> If you change the namespace it can't be used as a drop-in replacement.
> 
> But since the Debian libtablelayout-java package is already a fork of
> the upstream TableLayout project using a different namespace (as
> required by the license for derivative works), there is no need to
> change again the namespace for anyone modifying the libtablelayout-java
> package.

So there's no way to create a modified version of libtablelayout-java
that can be used as a drop-in replacement for the original upstream
TableLayout.

This seems to confirm that the namespace-change clause has functional
consequences, as I suspected... 


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Bug#893561: libtablelayout-java: license does not seem to meet the DFSG

2018-04-15 Thread Francesco Poli 
On Thu, 29 Mar 2018 00:38:42 +0200 Markus Koschany wrote:

> Am 28.03.2018 um 23:34 schrieb Francesco Poli:
> > On Sat, 24 Mar 2018 15:22:12 +0100 Markus Koschany wrote:
[...]
> > debian-legal is more like a sort of advisory board, where licensing
> > issues are discussed and analyzed. The FTP Masters are not bound to
> > follow the advice, of course.
> > But, whenever an issue was actually discussed on debian-legal, it is
> > useful for the FTP Masters to be informed about the discussion, so that
> > they can see what was said and pointed out, before making their
> > decision.
> > Otherwise, what's the point in having a discussion on debian-legal, if
> > the FTP Masters are left unaware of it and must analyze the license
> > from scratch?
> 
> I know your involvement in debian-legal from previous discussions. Like
> I said before debian-legal is a mailing list and not an authoritative
> body of Debian. Of course everyone is entitled to his/her own opinion
> but nevertheless in the end only the FTP masters decide whether a
> license is compatible to Debian's Free Software Guidelines. It is at
> least questionable why you act now, _nine_ years later.

I act now, because I have only recently noticed the current
situation...  

[...]
> >> Feel free to contact all
> >> upstreams yourself though and discuss any licensing issues with them.
> > 
> > I may try to contact the upstream developers myself, but on isolated
> > voice is much less likely to be listened to than the Debian package
> > maintainers with the backing of the Debian Project...
> 
> Talk to upstream. Debian is not responsible for that.

Debian may have troubles, if it distributes a GPL-licensed package
linked with a GPL-incompatible library. That's why I think that solving
this issue for the best is also in the interest of the Debian Project.

Anyway, I tried to contact upstream, but I am failing to find a working
e-mail address for Daniel Barbalace.
<clearthou...@dev.java.net> has a no longer existent domain.
<dbarbal...@clearthought.info> is a no longer existent address.

Does anybody know how to contact Daniel Barbalace?
Thanks for any help you may provide!


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