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and subject line Bug#447202: fixed in eclipse 3.2.2-5
has caused the Debian Bug report #447202,
regarding eclipse-platform: Not start-/usable for inexperienced users
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Package: eclipse-platform
Version: 3.2.1-6
Severity: important
Justification: Renders package unusable for normal (new/inexperienced) users

This package is the base-package for several standalone packages like
eclipse-cdt. And if you install e.g. eclipse-cdt it's only based on
eclipse-platform. But eclipse-platform brings no script/program for running
eclipse (nothing is installed to /usr/bin which means a normal user expects to
install eclipse-cdt and have a running eclipse-system which is startable via the
normal commands (in this case that would be eclipse on the shell or via the
preferred GUI (e.g. KDE)).

This problem is made worse by the fact that no documentation accompanies this
package.

This results in four possible approaches (as far as I can see) for resolving
this problem:
1) raise eclipse from recommends (this should maybe forwarded to
eclipse-cdt/-jdt/-...) to depends or
2) integrate the binaries into eclipse-platform or
3) create eclipse-bin package on which all plugins like CDT depend or
4) state clearly in the package-description of the plugins, that eclipse is
required for running them.

Again: this is not a problem for experienced users but for people who want to
have a start with Debian (today I encountered this problem when helping a friend
of mine).

If you need further information, feel free to contact me.

Greetings,
Kai

P.S.: I was not quite sure whether I should rate this as normal or important,
but decided for important because
http://www.debian.org/Bugs/Developer#severities reads that it renders the
package unusable for some users.



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Source: eclipse
Source-Version: 3.2.2-5

We believe that the bug you reported is fixed in the latest version of
eclipse, which is due to be installed in the Debian FTP archive:

eclipse-efj_3.2.2-5_amd64.deb
  to pool/main/e/eclipse/eclipse-efj_3.2.2-5_amd64.deb
eclipse-gcj_3.2.2-5_all.deb
  to pool/main/e/eclipse/eclipse-gcj_3.2.2-5_all.deb
eclipse-jdt-gcj_3.2.2-5_amd64.deb
  to pool/main/e/eclipse/eclipse-jdt-gcj_3.2.2-5_amd64.deb
eclipse-jdt_3.2.2-5_amd64.deb
  to pool/main/e/eclipse/eclipse-jdt_3.2.2-5_amd64.deb
eclipse-pde-gcj_3.2.2-5_amd64.deb
  to pool/main/e/eclipse/eclipse-pde-gcj_3.2.2-5_amd64.deb
eclipse-pde_3.2.2-5_amd64.deb
  to pool/main/e/eclipse/eclipse-pde_3.2.2-5_amd64.deb
eclipse-platform-gcj_3.2.2-5_amd64.deb
  to pool/main/e/eclipse/eclipse-platform-gcj_3.2.2-5_amd64.deb
eclipse-platform_3.2.2-5_amd64.deb
  to pool/main/e/eclipse/eclipse-platform_3.2.2-5_amd64.deb
eclipse-rcp-gcj_3.2.2-5_amd64.deb
  to pool/main/e/eclipse/eclipse-rcp-gcj_3.2.2-5_amd64.deb
eclipse-rcp_3.2.2-5_amd64.deb
  to pool/main/e/eclipse/eclipse-rcp_3.2.2-5_amd64.deb
eclipse-sdk_3.2.2-5_all.deb
  to pool/main/e/eclipse/eclipse-sdk_3.2.2-5_all.deb
eclipse-source_3.2.2-5_amd64.deb
  to pool/main/e/eclipse/eclipse-source_3.2.2-5_amd64.deb
eclipse_3.2.2-5.diff.gz
  to pool/main/e/eclipse/eclipse_3.2.2-5.diff.gz
eclipse_3.2.2-5.dsc
  to pool/main/e/eclipse/eclipse_3.2.2-5.dsc
eclipse_3.2.2-5_amd64.deb
  to pool/main/e/eclipse/eclipse_3.2.2-5_amd64.deb
libswt3.2-gtk-gcj_3.2.2-5_amd64.deb
  to pool/main/e/eclipse/libswt3.2-gtk-gcj_3.2.2-5_amd64.deb
libswt3.2-gtk-java_3.2.2-5_amd64.deb
  to pool/main/e/eclipse/libswt3.2-gtk-java_3.2.2-5_amd64.deb
libswt3.2-gtk-jni_3.2.2-5_amd64.deb
  to pool/main/e/eclipse/libswt3.2-gtk-jni_3.2.2-5_amd64.deb



A summary of the changes between this version and the previous one is
attached.

Thank you for reporting the bug, which will now be closed.  If you
have further comments please address them to [EMAIL PROTECTED],
and the maintainer will reopen the bug report if appropriate.

Debian distribution maintenance software
pp.
Michael Koch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (supplier of updated eclipse package)

(This message was generated automatically at their request; if you
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Format: 1.7
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 22:01:22 +0100
Source: eclipse
Binary: eclipse-rcp eclipse-rcp-gcj eclipse-platform eclipse-platform-gcj 
eclipse-jdt eclipse-jdt-gcj eclipse-pde eclipse-pde-gcj eclipse-source 
eclipse-sdk eclipse eclipse-gcj libswt3.2-gtk-java libswt3.2-gtk-gcj 
libswt3.2-gtk-jni eclipse-efj
Architecture: source all amd64
Version: 3.2.2-5
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Debian Java Maintainers 
<pkg-java-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org>
Changed-By: Michael Koch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Description: 
 eclipse    - Extensible Tool Platform and Java IDE
 eclipse-efj - Eclipse Java code formatter
 eclipse-gcj - Native Eclipse run with GCJ
 eclipse-jdt - Java Development Tools plug-ins for Eclipse
 eclipse-jdt-gcj - Java Development Tools plug-ins for Eclipse (GCJ version)
 eclipse-pde - Plug-in Development Environment to develop Eclipse plug-ins
 eclipse-pde-gcj - Plug-in Development Environment to develop Eclipse plug-ins 
(GCJ 
 eclipse-platform - Eclipse platform without plug-ins to develop any language
 eclipse-platform-gcj - Eclipse platform without plug-ins to develop any 
language (GCJ ve
 eclipse-rcp - Eclipse rich client platform
 eclipse-rcp-gcj - Eclipse rich client platform (GCJ version)
 eclipse-sdk - Extensible Tool Platform and Java IDE
 eclipse-source - Eclipse source code plug-ins
 libswt3.2-gtk-gcj - Fast and rich GUI toolkit for Java, gtk2 (GCJ version)
 libswt3.2-gtk-java - Fast and rich GUI toolkit for Java, gtk2 version
 libswt3.2-gtk-jni - Platform dependent files for libswt3.2-gtk-java
Closes: 447202 449647 460364
Changes: 
 eclipse (3.2.2-5) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   * Added junit4 support.
   * Added ant-nodeps.jar to ant classpath. Needed for replaceregexp tag.
   * Simplified debian/rules by removing all JVM_* variables.
   * Updated watch file to match upstream correctly. Closes: #449647.
   * Added Homepage, Vcs-Svn and Vcs-Browser fields.
   * Updated Standards-Version to 3.7.3.
   * debian/eclipse-rcp.dirs. Removed, unneeded.
   * Updated debian/patches/eclipse-jsch-sftpexception.dpatch for jsch 0.1.36.
     Closes: #460364.
   * Updated (Build-)Depends on libjsch-java (>= 0.1.36).
   * Added JAVA_HOME for icedtea to debian/extra/java_home.
   * Add additional Depends on libgtk2.0-0 (>= 2.12.0-3) for libswt3.2-gtk-jni.
   * Added eclipse to Recommends of all plugin packages. Closes: #447202.
   * Added debian/source.lintian-overrides to shut up lintian a bit.
   * Added ${shlibs:Depends} to Depends of all -gcj packages with native jars.
Files: 
 2887ca02858707090c61c5101d58496d 1568 devel optional eclipse_3.2.2-5.dsc
 b9a4dc46f11384153e0e36a094a63787 122011 devel optional eclipse_3.2.2-5.diff.gz
 4e1b56087becc2640303b24f51136796 23390 devel optional 
eclipse-sdk_3.2.2-5_all.deb
 6710f29a8bf7f5ebbc4579cd24830f9a 23464 devel optional 
eclipse-gcj_3.2.2-5_all.deb
 8e1d4235bb611cd55da9e9325839e396 4062708 devel optional 
eclipse-rcp_3.2.2-5_amd64.deb
 0e5dc0a74a4b0c9fbe54045e70153af2 4617512 devel optional 
eclipse-rcp-gcj_3.2.2-5_amd64.deb
 52882faf73c956b6b92855f4a3e214f9 22158388 devel optional 
eclipse-platform_3.2.2-5_amd64.deb
 ae740aad074feef933da21be2fa54192 17856392 devel optional 
eclipse-platform-gcj_3.2.2-5_amd64.deb
 e36813a47ddfe7d65a1feeaf3a8f8708 14662564 devel optional 
eclipse-jdt_3.2.2-5_amd64.deb
 9cc8e11f5fff7a65e4b6fc14adf57406 14074546 devel optional 
eclipse-jdt-gcj_3.2.2-5_amd64.deb
 f9ee2b73c5208fc15acd173beef34c5b 4241466 devel optional 
eclipse-pde_3.2.2-5_amd64.deb
 f6dfb5a0e666cc361bea464d3d63f41e 3766622 devel optional 
eclipse-pde-gcj_3.2.2-5_amd64.deb
 eabfcab27f89db42a75fb8e4e42c2746 30049646 devel optional 
eclipse-source_3.2.2-5_amd64.deb
 676e1de7943a117a9e8bcefd811ebfe5 127378 devel optional 
eclipse_3.2.2-5_amd64.deb
 16d6363ae56637b1f50e05ffad77d51a 1620140 devel optional 
libswt3.2-gtk-java_3.2.2-5_amd64.deb
 9d4bfac9d263f083a99557b0c7deae36 2002860 devel optional 
libswt3.2-gtk-gcj_3.2.2-5_amd64.deb
 0d47a8dab9ff503f77083f19fcb600c4 237312 devel optional 
libswt3.2-gtk-jni_3.2.2-5_amd64.deb
 0d70046791b4a1a4f83e68040da4a6c4 26614 devel optional 
eclipse-efj_3.2.2-5_amd64.deb

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