Bug#793492: marked as done (Should this package be removed?)

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Package: azureus
Severity: serious

The version of azureus currently in the archive has been uploaded
in 2009 and it many upstream releases behind. It has been dropped
from testing back in 2013 and the last upload was in 2011. Since
there's apparently no current maintenance interest in Vuze/Azureus
and since there are plenty of other Torrent clients in Debian I
suggest we remove it from the archive.

If you agree, please reassign this bug to ftp.debian.org

Cheers,
Moritz
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Version: 4.3.0.6-5+rm

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Processed: Re: Bug#814176: Bug#793492: Bug#814176: azureus: (Build-)Depends on OpenJDK 7

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> reassign 870987 ftp.debian.org
Bug #870987 [src:azureus] azureus: should azureus be removed from unstable?
Bug reassigned from package 'src:azureus' to 'ftp.debian.org'.
Ignoring request to alter found versions of bug #870987 to the same values 
previously set
Ignoring request to alter fixed versions of bug #870987 to the same values 
previously set
> retitle 870987 RM: azureus -- RoQA; missed both jessie and stretch
Bug #870987 [ftp.debian.org] azureus: should azureus be removed from unstable?
Changed Bug title to 'RM: azureus -- RoQA; missed both jessie and stretch' from 
'azureus: should azureus be removed from unstable?'.
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Bug#793492: Bug#814176: Bug#793492: Bug#814176: azureus: (Build-)Depends on OpenJDK 7

[Markus Koschany]

reassign 870987 ftp.debian.org
retitle 870987 RM: azureus -- RoQA; missed both jessie and stretch
thanks

Am 08.08.2017 um 20:08 schrieb Emmanuel Bourg:
> On 08/08/2017 06:44 PM, Moritz Mühlenhoff wrote:
> 
>> 1.5 years later this hasn't changed, shall we now drop it?
> 
> Actually there has been a change since upstream has cleared the license
> issues we raised. I still intend to update the package, but I don't mind
> if it has to go through the NEW queue.
> 

Hi,

I completely understand the sentiment that we want to fix bugs instead
of going the easy way and remove packages. However Azureus has already
missed two stable releases and we already had this discussion 1.5 years
ago. At some point we should accept that the package is in a really bad
shape and that it should not even be shipped in unstable because it is
basically unusable.

Mykola Nikishov pointed to the new fork BiglyBT and this one seems to be
more suited for Debian anyway because they removed all those advertising
crap.

Since you are fine with going to NEW again and I would support anybody
else who is really interested in maintaining this package, I think the
removal of azureus makes sense now. Hence I would like to ask the FTP
team to remove azureus from Debian due to the outstanding issues
mentioned in its RC bug reports.

Thank you

Markus



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Bug#814176: Bug#793492: Bug#814176: azureus: (Build-)Depends on OpenJDK 7

[Emmanuel Bourg]

On 08/08/2017 06:44 PM, Moritz Mühlenhoff wrote:

> 1.5 years later this hasn't changed, shall we now drop it?

Actually there has been a change since upstream has cleared the license
issues we raised. I still intend to update the package, but I don't mind
if it has to go through the NEW queue.

Emmanuel Bourg

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Bug#793492: Bug#814176: azureus: (Build-)Depends on OpenJDK 7

[Mykola Nikishov]

Markus Koschany  writes:

> For future readers: If someone is interested in reintroducing and
> maintaining Azureus, just ask for sponsorship on
> debian-j...@lists.debian.org.

Seems it is better to check BiglyBT [1] instead:

Two long-time developers of the Vuze BitTorrent client, formerly
known as Azureus, have launched a new client. BiglyBT emerges at a
time when Vuze development has stalled. The developers promise to
take the project forward while removing all advertising and other
annoyances.

[1] https://github.com/BiglySoftware/BiglyBT
[2] 
https://torrentfreak.com/former-vuze-developers-launch-biglybt-a-new-open-source-torrent-client-170803/

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Bug#793492: Bug#814176: azureus: (Build-)Depends on OpenJDK 7

[Moritz Mühlenhoff]

On Wed, Mar 09, 2016 at 09:10:50PM +0100, Markus Koschany wrote:
> Am 09.03.2016 um 20:53 schrieb Stephen Nelson:
> > 
> > On Wed, Mar 9, 2016 at 4:03 PM Markus Koschany  > > wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > This issue is fixed in Git but Stephen Nelson wanted to ask upstream for
> > some license clarifications. Unfortunately we haven't heard back  from
> > him since August 2015.
> > 
> > https://lists.debian.org/debian-java/2015/08/msg00029.html
> > 
> > 
> > Hi Markus
> > 
> > I did contact upstream [1] but they never replied. I'm not a user of the
> > software but was trying to keep it in Debian.
> > 
> > [1] http://forum.vuze.com/Thread-Incompatible-licence-issue
> 
> Hi Stephen,
> 
> thanks for the link. I would also like to keep Azureus in Debian but I'm
> also not a user. We need someone who updates Azureus from time to time
> and we need a clarification from upstream. If they are not interested in
> making a simple statement about licenses, it's probably not worth the
> effort to continue packaging Azureus.
> 
> *Just my opinion. Volunteers are always welcome*

1.5 years later this hasn't changed, shall we now drop it?

Cheers,
Moritz

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Bug#793492: azureus: (Build-)Depends on OpenJDK 7

[Markus Koschany]

Control: tags -1 confirmed

On Mon, 08 Feb 2016 20:27:40 + Matthias Klose  wrote:
> Package: src:azureus
> Version: 4.3.0.6-5
> Severity: serious
> User: debian-j...@lists.debian.org
> Usertags: openjdk-8-transition
> 
> The package build-depends or depends one an openjdk-7-* package,
> which is scheduled for removal for stretch.  Please do not depend
> on a specific openjdk version, but on one of the default-java,
> default-java-headless or default-jdk packages instead.
> 
> default-java defaulting to openjdk-8 on most architectures is now
> available in unstable.
> 

This issue is fixed in Git but Stephen Nelson wanted to ask upstream for
some license clarifications. Unfortunately we haven't heard back  from
him since August 2015.

https://lists.debian.org/debian-java/2015/08/msg00029.html

Markus



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Bug#793492:

[Stephen Nelson]

I had updated Vuze to 5.3 [1] but there were some outstanding
questions over the copyright of source files. I raised this with
upstream and they took a while to clarify it and I lost the momentum a
bit.

I'd still like to get it back into Debian so I'll import the latest
version and try to get it done soon. Please don't remove it just yet.

Many thanks

Stephen

[1] http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-java/azureus.git/commit/?h=vuze5.3

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Bug#793492: Should this package be removed?

[Moritz Muehlenhoff]

Package: azureus
Severity: serious

The version of azureus currently in the archive has been uploaded
in 2009 and it many upstream releases behind. It has been dropped
from testing back in 2013 and the last upload was in 2011. Since
there's apparently no current maintenance interest in Vuze/Azureus
and since there are plenty of other Torrent clients in Debian I
suggest we remove it from the archive.

If you agree, please reassign this bug to ftp.debian.org

Cheers,
Moritz

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Bug#793492: Should this package be removed?

[Emmanuel Bourg]

Le 24/07/2015 17:30, Moritz Muehlenhoff a écrit :

 The version of azureus currently in the archive has been uploaded
 in 2009 and it many upstream releases behind. It has been dropped
 from testing back in 2013 and the last upload was in 2011. Since
 there's apparently no current maintenance interest in Vuze/Azureus
 and since there are plenty of other Torrent clients in Debian I
 suggest we remove it from the archive.

Hi Moritz,

I'm interested in reviving Azureus, but that's a low priority item on my
todo list. Stephen Nelson also voiced its interest [1].

Emmanuel Bourg

[1] https://lists.debian.org/debian-java/2015/04/msg00084.html

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