Re: KDE version in Lenny: KDE 3.5.9 vs KDE 4.1

2008-06-06 Thread Peter Eisentraut
Am Freitag, 6. Juni 2008 schrieb Pino Toscano:
 Right now, the only way to have KDE installed by default in a new Debian
 installation is with a cd1-kde iso.
 I'll start to believe to Debian+KDE as potential linux desktop only when
 I see KDE considered in Debian at the same level of GNOME. So far, the
 desktop independent distro motto of Debian is a pure joke, Debian is a
 GNOME distro just like Ubuntu.

You can be assured that with corporate users, the decision process about IT 
deployments is more sophisticated than let's take this Linux CD, click 
on 'Desktop', and see what happens.

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Re: Some notes on my switch to KDE 4.1

2008-08-21 Thread Peter Eisentraut
Felipe Sateler wrote:
 Does the new kontact work with the old kmail? If not, a conflicts may be
 needed.

I'd imagine you will simply have the new kontact without any mail 
functionality, and you can continue to use the old kmail.  Which would be 
weird but not implausible during the transition period.  A conflict would 
simply cause the old kmail to be uninstalled, which would not benefit 
kontact's mail functionality one way or another.

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Re: meta-kde4 and meta-kde

2009-04-08 Thread Peter Eisentraut
On Wednesday 08 April 2009 11:52:36 Ana Guerrero wrote:
 So, what about:

 - kde-minimal (just rename current kde4-mininal) I am not sure kde-core
 longer fits.
 - kde-full (renamed from current kde4) I agree it is clearer than kde.
 - kde-development. Not only renamed from kde4-development, also address
   #484855 and convert it in what its name says.

Well, being able to say apt-get install kde would still be very handy.

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Re: meta-kde4 and meta-kde

2009-04-08 Thread Peter Eisentraut
On Thursday 09 April 2009 01:56:12 Scott Kitterman wrote:
 I think moving things (like games) that it's nice to provide to recommends,
 so they can be removed without removing the metapackage, will defuse a lot
 of the tension of these discussions.  If it turns out a few too many things
 get added to recommends for some people's tastes, they can just remove
 them.

Yeah, moving kdegames and kdeedu to recommends would seem to do what I would 
like to use.

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Re: meta-kde4 and meta-kde

2009-04-08 Thread Peter Eisentraut
On Thursday 09 April 2009 00:49:07 Sune Vuorela wrote:
 What should be KDE?

 The thing that upstream ships as KDE?

I think the kde package should be strongly related to what upstream ships 
when they say new KDE version released.  That is the rule for pretty much 
all other packages, after all.

Variations should then be kde-$something, again, same as other packages.

 The thing that Developer A and Developer B has agreed upon?
 The thing that Developer C and Developer D has agreed upon?
 Whan when users wants more?

Heh, what about a kde-80-20 package that installs the 20% most popular KDE-
related packages based on popcon, which should then be enough for 80% of 
users. ;-)


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