Re: /usr/share/doc/kde4 (Debian) vs. /usr/share/doc/kde (Kubuntu)

2010-06-01 Thread Modestas Vainius
Hello,

On sekmadienis 23 Gegužė 2010 16:15:39 Pino Toscano wrote:
  
  23). So the only opportunity I see for this is KDE SC 4.4.4 release;
 
 +1 on the switch for 4.4.4.

4.4.4 in archive so mini-transition has started.

 Among the packages you listed, some don't explicitly list any
 documentation path in either install files, rules or anything else in
 
 the debian packaging (so a binNMU can be enough for them):
 kcollectd
 digikam-doc
 icecc-monitor
 kcheckgmail
 kdesudo
 kmess
 kmplayer
 kphotoalbum
 krecipes
 rsibreak
 skanlite
 smb4k
 kmidimon
 rkward
 kwave
 frescobaldi
 kvkbd
 backintime
 
 = 18 packages

Our kde4libs 4.4.4 still looks in the /usr/share/doc/kde4/HTML for docs so 
binNMUs are not needed for proper functionality. What's more, technically, if 
docs are in the arch:all package, binNMU won't help. So maybe we will get back 
to fixing these packages sometime right before freeze. Hopefully, most of 
these packages will fix themselves when maintainer does a routine upload to 
solve other issues.

 Instead, these need a sourceful upload:
 tellico
 k3b
 kdesvn
 keurocalc
 kile
 kmymoney
 konq-plugins
 konversation
 krusader
 skrooge
 kdiff3
 eqonomize
 
 = 12 packages

I filled serious bugs against tellico, kdiff3 and eqonomize. Other packages 
belong to KDE extras so rather than filling bugs I sent a mail. However, 
during routine rebuild of archive, Lucas might open serious bugs against those 
packages as well. So there is no need to delay uploads for too long.

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Re: /usr/share/doc/kde4 (Debian) vs. /usr/share/doc/kde (Kubuntu)

2010-05-23 Thread Pino Toscano
Hi,

Alle domenica 23 maggio 2010, Modestas Vainius ha scritto:
 My wild guess is /usr/share/doc/kde/HTML/en/common conflict
 with kdelibs-data (KDE 3)?.

Most probably, yes.

   b) almost all affected packages (48 [ 30 excluding KDE SC]) will
 need maintainer uploads;

A bit less, see below

   c) majority of official KDE SC packages are affected (18 out of
 23). So the only opportunity I see for this is KDE SC 4.4.4 release;

+1 on the switch for 4.4.4.

Among the packages you listed, some don't explicitly list any 
documentation path in either install files, rules or anything else in 
the debian packaging (so a binNMU can be enough for them):

kcollectd
digikam-doc
icecc-monitor
kcheckgmail
kdesudo
kmess
kmplayer
kphotoalbum
krecipes
rsibreak
skanlite
smb4k
kmidimon
rkward
kwave
frescobaldi
kvkbd
backintime

= 18 packages

Instead, these need a sourceful upload:

tellico
k3b
kdesvn
keurocalc
kile
kmymoney
konq-plugins
konversation
krusader
skrooge
kdiff3
eqonomize

= 12 packages

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Re: /usr/share/doc/kde4 (Debian) vs. /usr/share/doc/kde (Kubuntu)

2010-05-23 Thread Mark Purcell
On Monday 24 May 2010 06:59:38 Modestas Vainius wrote:
 Hello,
 
 On sekmadienis 23 Gegužė 2010 23:48:17 Mark Purcell wrote:

  Any chance we can get upstream to play?
 
 Play what? :) This is 100% distro specific.

Sorry, I missed your earlier piece:

 Upstream default is yet another path (/usr/share/doc/HTML), which obviously
 is not a very good choice for Debian given how all packages use
 /usr/share/doc/package.

Upstream default isn't great IMHO for any distribution, Debian/ Ubuntu based 
or not.

Any chance we could convince upstream to use something more sensible, ie get 
upstream to switch to /usr/share/doc/kde/HTML?

Mark


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Re: /usr/share/doc/kde4 (Debian) vs. /usr/share/doc/kde (Kubuntu)

2010-05-23 Thread Scott Kitterman


Sune Vuorela s...@vuorela.dk wrote:

On Sunday 23 May 2010 14:07:28 Modestas Vainius wrote:
 
 So obviously this difference does not make kubuntu people very happy
 because extra work is needed for merging packages from Debian. As far as I
 understand, they want Debian to switch.

I thought they just asked to do s/kde4/kde\*/ in the install files, making the 
install files working on both debian and ubuntu.


That's correct. 

I think kde is more logical than kde4, so I think it would be a good change to 
make and would be willing to help with the change in Debian if you decide to go 
to kde,  but I think it's entirely up to you to decide if you want to do it.

Scott K

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