hydrogen_0.9.7-4_source.changes ACCEPTED into unstable
Accepted: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Format: 1.8 Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2017 23:14:30 +0200 Source: hydrogen Binary: hydrogen hydrogen-data hydrogen-doc Architecture: source Version: 0.9.7-4 Distribution: unstable Urgency: medium Maintainer: Debian Multimedia Maintainers Changed-By: Jonas Smedegaard Description: hydrogen - advanced drum machine/step sequencer hydrogen-data - advanced drum machine/step sequencer (data) hydrogen-doc - advanced drum machine/step sequencer (doc) Changes: hydrogen (0.9.7-4) unstable; urgency=medium . * Fix missing DEP-3 headers for patch 1000 (seems from git commits that I wrote that patch, although I don't remember it). * Add README.Debian documenting deviation from upstream regarding online downloadable drumkit feeds. Thanks to IOhannes m zmölnig. * Tidy rules file: Reorganize package relations variables. * Add patch cherry-picked upstream to fix crash enabling rubberband with new empty instrument component. Checksums-Sha1: 030fcf887c72bd422c9c1d4948d2012c5d018f4c 2342 hydrogen_0.9.7-4.dsc 3a90f29750e60efa93e01c21cc529f3004bbfc5c 31608 hydrogen_0.9.7-4.debian.tar.xz f4aff9611a3b9545f854f298673183daf46cf941 12917 hydrogen_0.9.7-4_amd64.buildinfo Checksums-Sha256: c88d58fb9011abbcaa8ca3c08ca787a628f214cac501b5c7c69855f1756a38b0 2342 hydrogen_0.9.7-4.dsc ea6c75790ac32b747671b084d97f9c9a7c580f14f06f1579343202f885b0ef1e 31608 hydrogen_0.9.7-4.debian.tar.xz f9d97a156503f92ee54b2655dfb83178010e31445f9f4c0b24b79b074b3e1a80 12917 hydrogen_0.9.7-4_amd64.buildinfo Files: af3704bdad4fdee63e0ab0788117a32b 2342 sound optional hydrogen_0.9.7-4.dsc 6294a5aa1e7c6ef46fb9058add9319a0 31608 sound optional hydrogen_0.9.7-4.debian.tar.xz ad65e4c742e93c6a0b7a1c2f94f501f8 12917 sound optional hydrogen_0.9.7-4_amd64.buildinfo -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQIzBAEBCgAdFiEEn+Ppw2aRpp/1PMaELHwxRsGgASEFAlnAOBAACgkQLHwxRsGg ASGBEQ//Z2oAOrZ3ZUjzSKroA7hCi2RX84QfuP7BTuXZlzn+ZQ3jWcj0qJAlV5O8 kThj9GYeglLt4RPOtRmCk4bG2fD1hVb4nD/bEy1/HZelKKXbX3O5NekHlJRjEVV2 W96pNWFdJw/p7iEPEbEGbgIfwSUocwLMjY3bzoXdmdldVQ8V5tK1+kETUG0T4Y2m BwfoBbNW23C6mv1WwCFaD5SW39er7FQyBiMLATa4O3AsVx6vskHGr3MySkYhIpNh 3DBnMIO5XIfRtK3NYMdYnkjvwwhnxtQw6Vj2kQwCQ2Aw9vvpzhTo0/K7nTflgGEz xZ0XynsUSDCCKS1dLFxMsVgGrFUsSDCdNC3TptU13sVM705Oj1CU9lxgUzEzjQMU +0loUwswej7H1tbssJDUtooae8NlVOqqYOt+B0Cf4DsD9yDWQgNws0rFhwXPiTqT eLzEfCm3K6iXTt7eURyhdOq3R6F7qNnqFhic9QXokglHmkLGh+rTYbVON6HzefyD O5s/R6XrP4UkQJ8H/jFVbZ/Gcxm8LEkoIDEm+gTnKboHpXzvBFq4F1taYdjTOGgm zURxZ6rwTAAsp1Cq7f4wlTS06oviq1wYEfVPosqPuKez8gFTAydsyqzfIxbIwKN2 bp6K6iicj4WRoyc7vE+Nl9jSQF9XB1L/7lAgGuC2wJ81llyl5Vc= =7Jf7 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Thank you for your contribution to Debian. ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
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Bug#876096: closing 876096
Quoting IOhannes m zmölnig (Debian/GNU) (2017-09-18 16:16:47) > On 2017-09-18 15:31, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: >> Quoting IOhannes m zmölnig (Debian/GNU) (2017-09-18 14:42:19) >>> what's the difference between the drumkits provided by the >>> "hydrogen-drumkits" package and the ones that can be downloaded via >>> the "free" feed? >> >> The difference is that hydrogen-drumkits package provides our users >> with all the drumkits that Debian has to offer which are packaged, >> whereas the default Hydrogen feed provides our users with access to >> drumkits claimed to be Free licensed. > > so what's the difference? In an ideal World with surplus of disk space and Debian maintainers, none. > which drumkits are included in hydrogen-drumkits that are not "claimed > to be Free licensed" (regardless of RC#869180; even so all of the kits > included in hydrogen-drumkits are *claimed* to be under a free > license)? If the addons.debian.net service provided non-free drumkits due to bogus metadata, that would be a bug in the service. > which drumkits do you get by using the feed URL but not having > hydrogen-drumkits installed? The drumkits listed in the feed. > is this an issue about reducing downloaded data/disk space? No, issue is that upstream mechanism to download addons include nonfree licensed addons. As the title of the bugreport states. You do indeed save disk space by imposing licensing rules, but that is not intended: I would very much appreciate us being able to fill the harddrives of our users with Hydrogen drumkits :-) >>> why is the upstream URL being removed from the source-code? (rather >>> than just *adding* the only-free URL and making it the default?) >> >> URL is replaced (not removed) because it contains non-free items. > > well, yes; my point was that the upstream URL is no longer there. Ok. > i'm with you that we should offer free data as the forst choice. > i don't know why we should hide away the fact that there *is* non-free > data which might. Aim of the bugfix is not to hide, but to address the bug. I realize now that effectively I am also hiding knowledge about the upstream feed. That was unintended! I will add a README.Debian file documenting how Debian package deviates from upstream. Full disclosure: I am hired by laptop maker Purism to help maintain their Debian derivative PureOS, which aims to achieve FSF endorsement and therefore at some places have aims not fully aligned with Debian aims. FSF do arguably want to "hide" information about non-free stuff. I choose to do most possibly of my work for Purism by improving Debian rather than forking from Debian - even though forking would be far easier, in part because I would then not need to defend my actions as I do now. Thanks for being critical to my work here! > all documentation (that i could find) silently assumes that the user > will be able to install the "official Hydrogen drumkits" from within > the application by clicking "Update List" in the "Import Library" > section. Right. Documentation exist (as first hit when I searched for "hydrogen drumkits" without quotation marks in DuckDuckGo) about _other_ feeds, but I failed to notice that the default feed is assumed to be hardwired and therefore not mentioned at those places. Which kinda makes sense. I will improve the fix. - Jonas -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist & Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing [ ] keep private ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
Bug#876096: closing 876096
On 2017-09-18 15:31, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > Quoting IOhannes m zmölnig (Debian/GNU) (2017-09-18 14:42:19) >> On 2017-09-18 14:14, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: >>> close 876096 0.9.7-3 >>> thanks >>> >> >> honestly i think this is a rather pointless exercise. > > Point is to provide our users with Free licensed software by default. hmm, the drumkits aren't software per se. i'm not saying that we shouldn't prefer free data. but we don't patch our browsers to only access free webservers. > > >> what's the difference between the drumkits provided by the >> "hydrogen-drumkits" package and the ones that can be downloaded via >> the "free" feed? > > The difference is that hydrogen-drumkits package provides our users with > all the drumkits that Debian has to offer which are packaged, whereas > the default Hydrogen feed provides our users with access to drumkits > claimed to be Free licensed. so what's the difference? which drumkits are included in hydrogen-drumkits that are not "claimed to be Free licensed" (regardless of RC#869180; even so all of the kits included in hydrogen-drumkits are *claimed* to be under a free license)? which drumkits do you get by using the feed URL but not having hydrogen-drumkits installed? is this an issue about reducing downloaded data/disk space? >> why is the upstream URL being removed from the source-code? (rather >> than just *adding* the only-free URL and making it the default?) > > URL is replaced (not removed) because it contains non-free items. well, yes; my point was that the upstream URL is no longer there. > > Sorry, I thought that was obvious: That is the very bug being addressed. i concur that it is a bug for a free software to allow users to fetch data from non-free sources. i'm with you that we should offer free data as the forst choice. i don't know why we should hide away the fact that there *is* non-free data which might. there's a slight difference between "offer only free dumkits by default" (which is the changelog entry for the patch) and "pretend that there are only free drumkits". >> this is actively taking away the freedom-of-choice from our users, and >> thus harmful. > > Our users have the freedom to add additional feed URLs, same as they can > add non-free sources to their APT configuration. I fail to see how > non-free stuff being opt-in is removal of freedoms. sure. users also have the freedom to just run 'apt-get source hydrogen; cd hydrogen-*; sed -e '/^2001/d' -i debian/patches; dpkg-buildpackge -rfakeroot' but in practice: how are they supposed to even know that there are non-free sources available? all documentation (that i could find) silently assumes that the user will be able to install the "official Hydrogen drumkits" from within the application by clicking "Update List" in the "Import Library" section. >> i would suggest to: >> - undo the fix for #876096 >> - have hydrogen-drumkits only include non-disputed drumkits (which i >> think are *much* more than the 2 kits provided by the current feed) > > I am currently working on setting up a service addons.debian.net > offering a automatically curated feed, subscribing to one or more > upstream feeds and stripping non-free and unlicensed items. this is great. but afaict this is only a replacement for the freepats list; it doesn't address the issue i'm having. fgmsdr IOhannes ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
Bug#876096: closing 876096
Quoting IOhannes m zmölnig (Debian/GNU) (2017-09-18 14:42:19) > On 2017-09-18 14:14, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > > close 876096 0.9.7-3 > > thanks > > > > honestly i think this is a rather pointless exercise. Point is to provide our users with Free licensed software by default. > what's the difference between the drumkits provided by the > "hydrogen-drumkits" package and the ones that can be downloaded via > the "free" feed? The difference is that hydrogen-drumkits package provides our users with all the drumkits that Debian has to offer which are packaged, whereas the default Hydrogen feed provides our users with access to drumkits claimed to be Free licensed. > why is the upstream URL being removed from the source-code? (rather > than just *adding* the only-free URL and making it the default?) URL is replaced (not removed) because it contains non-free items. Sorry, I thought that was obvious: That is the very bug being addressed. > this is actively taking away the freedom-of-choice from our users, and > thus harmful. Our users have the freedom to add additional feed URLs, same as they can add non-free sources to their APT configuration. I fail to see how non-free stuff being opt-in is removal of freedoms. > i would suggest to: > - undo the fix for #876096 > - have hydrogen-drumkits only include non-disputed drumkits (which i > think are *much* more than the 2 kits provided by the current feed) I am currently working on setting up a service addons.debian.net offering a automatically curated feed, subscribing to one or more upstream feeds and stripping non-free and unlicensed items. At first I am implementing for Kodi - when that is in place I will implement for Hydrogen, and update the patch to point to that service instead of the current proper but indeed quite limited feed. - Jonas -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist & Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing [ ] keep private ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
Processed: closing 876096
Processing commands for cont...@bugs.debian.org: > close 876096 0.9.7-3 Bug #876096 [hydrogen] hydrogen: mechanism to download addons include nonfree licensed addons Marked as fixed in versions hydrogen/0.9.7-3. Bug #876096 [hydrogen] hydrogen: mechanism to download addons include nonfree licensed addons Marked Bug as done > thanks Stopping processing here. Please contact me if you need assistance. -- 876096: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=876096 Debian Bug Tracking System Contact ow...@bugs.debian.org with problems ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
Bug#876096: hydrogen: mechanism to download addons include nonfree licensed addons
Package: hydrogen Version: 0.9.7-2 Severity: normal Tags: upstream -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Hydrogen supports downloading additional drumkits. The URL for a feed for such drumkits is configurable, and by default points to a feed curated by the upstream authors of Hydrogen. Unfortunately that feed contains both free and non-free drumkits. This bug was fixed in 0.9.7-3 by patching the code to use an alternative feed curated with the explicit scope of only freely licensed resources. - Jonas -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQIzBAEBCgAdFiEEn+Ppw2aRpp/1PMaELHwxRsGgASEFAlm/tz4ACgkQLHwxRsGg ASFsqw/+PTBS8H7hxMpiC77eIjD9qHPJFbaIR9Zk3aKOAT5fi1TeMVzyc/6aF16Y 04Y7rftjc9qjUUHtPS4OJTzYBaJ/hFoLjVSi31+M3mnKtiQ+bVWcGJoxj78YCQ5f v2pT4wcrfxrjmFmXwrNH1CZZMz4BhsPG54sHAci9dEFwTnekdfxmq+ugdooPWuSv kUKvsEjCIsx5ZJ8sQmSnv3013o2LlAJ1HHzven7Wyg1Ct5EjpcdX4oGqCJvNqE8s q5CRWKoZOMm/sxcLwpF5fsPbsxAmXIKMgnjGJGlecdXHVttzWIHPJNdRJdRYv0yO uf/T6The9C1agN5Hy30LZF/NIumjN6g3tGLxlC+YgPQyeNioDLHP2gr3tanGj756 l9vI3lqNMYt9sk+sSt3etjm+89bUrxWu9Aorf1i6z+gF16AMuj3/LNsaGWS6DxdB MwE6CDyu7VEeiYqLEWq/0MszrZxn2QMluKGCe3IIXckRSiY/YSmfNhed6oTPCEMZ 2yEZVO2lfDZdNQS3nlQEPpeMVB5bF1Zn92bIP+PjffL7MI7sbSy9sO+j6VTU40JD 2xGkUOvRZerF6O5PqdJ5+l0CusXLSyKHPnnpDIpanVSGHeuEzdCaAWaOny3Z4TTv YQRbAFuk426vk9PknLjqydVqUcRxlbIaKf8E6iYe6IpGiPUm7Tg= =/kXn -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
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