Bug#769541: ams: please add the 'Atte-Jensen-instrumentpatches' to the Ams package
The links to the AMS patches of Atte are fixed on his website, he told me. It seems possible to download them now: http://atte.dk/stuff On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 3:03 AM, Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk wrote: Quoting rosea grammostola (2014-11-14 21:13:45) Ok, I asked Atte via email and you can use the latest GPL license. Thanks again for your help with this, Rosea - and thanks to Atte for clarifying. Sorry to be nitpicking so much, but can you please forward that email from Atte, including headers, for use as public record? Even better would be if instead Atte could state himself the licensing of his contribution by including such statement together with the code itself. ...and speaking of the code - it looks odd how the patch is committed to Github as a tarball. That seems unsuitable for kenrestivo to adopt - I suggest (unless you know better and have coordinated with kenrestivo already) to instead commit as regular source code the way it is intended to merge together with the rest of that code project, an then make a pull request. - Jonas -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing [ ] keep private ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
Bug#769541: ams: please add the 'Atte-Jensen-instrumentpatches' to the Ams package
Package: ams Version: 1:2.1.1-1kxstudio1 Severity: normal Dear Maintainer, Could you please add extra instumentpatches to the AMS package? The patches are made by Atte Andre Jensen (atteATyoumail.dk ) and are interesting for other users. -- System Information: Debian Release: jessie/sid APT prefers trusty-updates APT policy: (500, 'trusty-updates'), (500, 'trusty-security'), (500, 'trusty'), (100, 'trusty-backports') Architecture: amd64 (x86_64) Foreign Architectures: i386 Kernel: Linux 3.17.1-031701-generic (SMP w/2 CPU cores) Locale: LANG=en_US.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8) Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash Versions of packages ams depends on: ii cmt 1:1.16-1kxstudio1 ii libasound21.0.27.2-3ubuntu7 ii libc6 2.19-0ubuntu6.3 ii libgcc1 1:4.9.1-0ubuntu1 ii libjack-jackd2-0 1:1.9.10-1~trusty1 ii libqt4-opengl 4:4.8.5+git192-g085f851+dfsg-2ubuntu4 ii libqtcore44:4.8.5+git192-g085f851+dfsg-2ubuntu4 ii libqtgui4 4:4.8.5+git192-g085f851+dfsg-2ubuntu4 ii libstdc++64.8.2-19ubuntu1 ii mcp-plugins 1:0.4.0-2kxstudio1 ii swh-plugins 0.4.15+1-7kxstudio1 Versions of packages ams recommends: ii amb-plugins 1:0.8.1-4kxstudio1 ii rev-plugins 1:0.7.1-1kxstudio2 ii vco-plugins 1:0.3.0-2kxstudio1 ams suggests no packages. -- no debconf information ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
Bug#769541: ams: please add the 'Atte-Jensen-instrumentpatches' to the Ams package
Patches can be found here: https://github.com/johnsen/Linux-synth-patches/tree/master/ams-patches On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 1:02 PM, rosea.grammostola rosea.grammost...@gmail.com wrote: Package: ams Version: 1:2.1.1-1kxstudio1 Severity: normal Dear Maintainer, Could you please add extra instumentpatches to the AMS package? The patches are made by Atte Andre Jensen (atteATyoumail.dk ) and are interesting for other users. -- System Information: Debian Release: jessie/sid APT prefers trusty-updates APT policy: (500, 'trusty-updates'), (500, 'trusty-security'), (500, 'trusty'), (100, 'trusty-backports') Architecture: amd64 (x86_64) Foreign Architectures: i386 Kernel: Linux 3.17.1-031701-generic (SMP w/2 CPU cores) Locale: LANG=en_US.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8) Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash Versions of packages ams depends on: ii cmt 1:1.16-1kxstudio1 ii libasound21.0.27.2-3ubuntu7 ii libc6 2.19-0ubuntu6.3 ii libgcc1 1:4.9.1-0ubuntu1 ii libjack-jackd2-0 1:1.9.10-1~trusty1 ii libqt4-opengl 4:4.8.5+git192-g085f851+dfsg-2ubuntu4 ii libqtcore44:4.8.5+git192-g085f851+dfsg-2ubuntu4 ii libqtgui4 4:4.8.5+git192-g085f851+dfsg-2ubuntu4 ii libstdc++64.8.2-19ubuntu1 ii mcp-plugins 1:0.4.0-2kxstudio1 ii swh-plugins 0.4.15+1-7kxstudio1 Versions of packages ams recommends: ii amb-plugins 1:0.8.1-4kxstudio1 ii rev-plugins 1:0.7.1-1kxstudio2 ii vco-plugins 1:0.3.0-2kxstudio1 ams suggests no packages. -- no debconf information ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
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Bug#769541: ams: please add the 'Atte-Jensen-instrumentpatches' to the Ams package
tags 769541 moreinfo thanks Please clarify copyright and licensing. Cheers. sent via mobile ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
Bug#769541: ams: please add the 'Atte-Jensen-instrumentpatches' to the Ams package
Those from Atte are GPL Copyright Atte Jensen Here are the latest AMS paches from Atte http://atte.dk/stuff On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 1:42 PM, Alessio Treglia ales...@debian.org wrote: tags 769541 moreinfo thanks Please clarify copyright and licensing. Cheers. sent via mobile ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
Bug#769541: ams: please add the 'Atte-Jensen-instrumentpatches' to the Ams package
The GPL license has specific requirements (e.g. verbatim copy of the license shipped with the sources). We need a tarball with sources *and* a copy of the license as released by upstream. sent via mobile ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
Bug#769541: ams: please add the 'Atte-Jensen-instrumentpatches' to the Ams package
Don't you make this more complicated as needed? Everything is clear at the moment, the copyright holder and the license. I emailed the author, but it is also on the website: quote: Here are some music related stuff I did, all publiched under the GPL-license. http://atte.dk/stuff On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 3:46 PM, Alessio Treglia ales...@debian.org wrote: The GPL license has specific requirements (e.g. verbatim copy of the license shipped with the sources). We need a tarball with sources *and* a copy of the license as released by upstream. sent via mobile ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
Bug#769541: ams: please add the 'Atte-Jensen-instrumentpatches' to the Ams package
Also the patches from Ken Restivo are GPL quote Ken Restivo:Yep, they are derived from the AMS example patches and Atte's, so therefore they're all GPL. On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 5:20 PM, rosea grammostola rosea.grammost...@gmail.com wrote: Don't you make this more complicated as needed? Everything is clear at the moment, the copyright holder and the license. I emailed the author, but it is also on the website: quote: Here are some music related stuff I did, all publiched under the GPL-license. http://atte.dk/stuff On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 3:46 PM, Alessio Treglia ales...@debian.org wrote: The GPL license has specific requirements (e.g. verbatim copy of the license shipped with the sources). We need a tarball with sources *and* a copy of the license as released by upstream. sent via mobile ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
Bug#769541: ams: please add the 'Atte-Jensen-instrumentpatches' to the Ams package
Quoting rosea grammostola (2014-11-14 17:22:25) Also the patches from Ken Restivo are GPL quote Ken Restivo:Yep, they are derived from the AMS example patches and Atte's, so therefore they're all GPL. I hope that abbreviation GPL refers to GNU Public License. I hope it is version 2 of said license, and that it is the ...or newer variant of the license. But that is all wishfull thinking on my part - and I am not the copyright holder so can only hope or be sloppy and risk problems later, which Debian try hard to avoid! For GPL licensing, please pretty please use the exact phrases recommended by the GNU project, which is written at the bottom of the licensing text itself: one line to give the program's name and a brief idea of what it does. Copyright (C) year name of author This program is free software: you can redistribute it and/or modify it under the terms of the GNU General Public License as published by the Free Software Foundation, either version 3 of the License, or (at your option) any later version. This program is distributed in the hope that it will be useful, but WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. See the GNU General Public License for more details. You should have received a copy of the GNU General Public License along with this program. If not, see http://www.gnu.org/licenses/. Hope that makes sense. - Jonas -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing [ ] keep private signature.asc Description: signature ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
Bug#769541: ams: please add the 'Atte-Jensen-instrumentpatches' to the Ams package
I rest my case On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 7:48 PM, Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk wrote: Quoting rosea grammostola (2014-11-14 17:22:25) Also the patches from Ken Restivo are GPL quote Ken Restivo:Yep, they are derived from the AMS example patches and Atte's, so therefore they're all GPL. I hope that abbreviation GPL refers to GNU Public License. I hope it is version 2 of said license, and that it is the ...or newer variant of the license. But that is all wishfull thinking on my part - and I am not the copyright holder so can only hope or be sloppy and risk problems later, which Debian try hard to avoid! For GPL licensing, please pretty please use the exact phrases recommended by the GNU project, which is written at the bottom of the licensing text itself: one line to give the program's name and a brief idea of what it does. Copyright (C) year name of author This program is free software: you can redistribute it and/or modify it under the terms of the GNU General Public License as published by the Free Software Foundation, either version 3 of the License, or (at your option) any later version. This program is distributed in the hope that it will be useful, but WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. See the GNU General Public License for more details. You should have received a copy of the GNU General Public License along with this program. If not, see http://www.gnu.org/licenses/. Hope that makes sense. - Jonas -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing [ ] keep private ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
Bug#769541: ams: please add the 'Atte-Jensen-instrumentpatches' to the Ams package
What do you guys want? If you don't want to add it, perfect, but just say it. Don't start a nitpicking game about some instrumentsetting patches! I just want to make Debian a bit better, and share some 'user info' which could help others to make music with Debian. I was pretty clear about the fact that those users have no problem (read they like to share their patches with others) for you to add it to the package AMS. I asked them which license via email, they say GPL. So make it the GPL version you want, and don't make a problem about nothing. On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 7:54 PM, rosea grammostola rosea.grammost...@gmail.com wrote: I rest my case On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 7:48 PM, Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk wrote: Quoting rosea grammostola (2014-11-14 17:22:25) Also the patches from Ken Restivo are GPL quote Ken Restivo:Yep, they are derived from the AMS example patches and Atte's, so therefore they're all GPL. I hope that abbreviation GPL refers to GNU Public License. I hope it is version 2 of said license, and that it is the ...or newer variant of the license. But that is all wishfull thinking on my part - and I am not the copyright holder so can only hope or be sloppy and risk problems later, which Debian try hard to avoid! For GPL licensing, please pretty please use the exact phrases recommended by the GNU project, which is written at the bottom of the licensing text itself: one line to give the program's name and a brief idea of what it does. Copyright (C) year name of author This program is free software: you can redistribute it and/or modify it under the terms of the GNU General Public License as published by the Free Software Foundation, either version 3 of the License, or (at your option) any later version. This program is distributed in the hope that it will be useful, but WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. See the GNU General Public License for more details. You should have received a copy of the GNU General Public License along with this program. If not, see http://www.gnu.org/licenses/. Hope that makes sense. - Jonas -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing [ ] keep private ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
Bug#769541: ams: please add the 'Atte-Jensen-instrumentpatches' to the Ams package
Hi Rosea, Quoting rosea grammostola (2014-11-14 20:04:02) What do you guys want? We want to redistribute great code that fits our definition of Free Software. We _do_ expect this code to be great (just haven't tried it out yet). We _do_ expect this code to fit our licensing criteria (just need its author(s) to unambiguously state that). Sorry, it is not our intention to harrass anyone here, if that's the impression you react strongly to :-( - Jonas -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing [ ] keep private signature.asc Description: signature ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
Bug#769541: ams: please add the 'Atte-Jensen-instrumentpatches' to the Ams package
It's just so irritating that things can move so slowly in Debian sometimes. I really like 'Debian' for being so focussing on good packaging with proper license etc., but sometimes it just don't have a point, like in this case. It's about some presets for AMS, a synth. I mean it's no base software or something, just presets. It's clear that the makers of those presets wants to share them with a GPL license. I like to help Debian, but if it's so cumbersome to report a simple request, then I'll think twice the next time to summit a bugreport. Then asking the maintainers of Kxstudio or AVLinux would be a better shot I guess. I should care less. On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 8:59 PM, Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk wrote: Hi Rosea, Quoting rosea grammostola (2014-11-14 20:04:02) What do you guys want? We want to redistribute great code that fits our definition of Free Software. We _do_ expect this code to be great (just haven't tried it out yet). We _do_ expect this code to fit our licensing criteria (just need its author(s) to unambiguously state that). Sorry, it is not our intention to harrass anyone here, if that's the impression you react strongly to :-( - Jonas -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing [ ] keep private ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
Bug#769541: ams: please add the 'Atte-Jensen-instrumentpatches' to the Ams package
Ok, I asked Atte via email and you can use the latest GPL license. On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 9:08 PM, rosea grammostola rosea.grammost...@gmail.com wrote: It's just so irritating that things can move so slowly in Debian sometimes. I really like 'Debian' for being so focussing on good packaging with proper license etc., but sometimes it just don't have a point, like in this case. It's about some presets for AMS, a synth. I mean it's no base software or something, just presets. It's clear that the makers of those presets wants to share them with a GPL license. I like to help Debian, but if it's so cumbersome to report a simple request, then I'll think twice the next time to summit a bugreport. Then asking the maintainers of Kxstudio or AVLinux would be a better shot I guess. I should care less. On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 8:59 PM, Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk wrote: Hi Rosea, Quoting rosea grammostola (2014-11-14 20:04:02) What do you guys want? We want to redistribute great code that fits our definition of Free Software. We _do_ expect this code to be great (just haven't tried it out yet). We _do_ expect this code to fit our licensing criteria (just need its author(s) to unambiguously state that). Sorry, it is not our intention to harrass anyone here, if that's the impression you react strongly to :-( - Jonas -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing [ ] keep private ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
Bug#769541: ams: please add the 'Atte-Jensen-instrumentpatches' to the Ams package
Quoting rosea grammostola (2014-11-14 21:08:40) It's just so irritating that things can move so slowly in Debian sometimes. Right. I feel like that myself sometimes. But less and less, as I understand the reasons for processing involved. It's about some presets for AMS, a synth. I mean it's no base software or something, just presets. It's clear that the makers of those presets wants to share them with a GPL license. Yes, that is clear - that's what they state verbatim. What is not clear is *which* GPL license. A reason such detail is important is that Debian definitions of required freedoms not only involve authors permitting Debian to use the code for its original purpose, but also permitting Debian to forward permission to anyone else to repurpose the code - and e.g. if licensed as GPL-2 then that is compatible with e.g. Expat licensed works and GPL-2+ works but not with GPL-3 works. Stating licensing explicitly is important. I like to help Debian, but if it's so cumbersome to report a simple request, then I'll think twice the next time to summit a bugreport. Then asking the maintainers of Kxstudio or AVLinux would be a better shot I guess. I should care less. We appreciate your filing this bugreport. Really! We comment on the issue that the bugreport is about - getting the code into Debian. Licensing clarification is for the _authors_ of the code to correct, *not* you. We really appreciate your helping out getting the authors to clarify, and I am sorry if I have (unintendedly!) mislead you to feel that it was a burden on you. Kind regards, - Jonas -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing [ ] keep private signature.asc Description: signature ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
Bug#769541: ams: please add the 'Atte-Jensen-instrumentpatches' to the Ams package
Quoting rosea grammostola (2014-11-14 21:13:45) Ok, I asked Atte via email and you can use the latest GPL license. Thanks again for your help with this, Rosea - and thanks to Atte for clarifying. Sorry to be nitpicking so much, but can you please forward that email from Atte, including headers, for use as public record? Even better would be if instead Atte could state himself the licensing of his contribution by including such statement together with the code itself. ...and speaking of the code - it looks odd how the patch is committed to Github as a tarball. That seems unsuitable for kenrestivo to adopt - I suggest (unless you know better and have coordinated with kenrestivo already) to instead commit as regular source code the way it is intended to merge together with the rest of that code project, an then make a pull request. - Jonas -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing [ ] keep private signature.asc Description: signature ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
