Re: please upload: pd-zexy 2.2.5
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2011-11-22 23:08, Felipe Sateler wrote: it seems that all those problems only come from the autotools generated stuff, which is something where i have the feeling that it should not create problems at all. i'm therefore wondering, what is the best way to deal with autotools generated files in general. so i asked at #debian-mentors (see end of this mail), with the conclusion (as i read it), that it might probably be best to leave out generated files from debian/copyright alltogether. would this be acceptable? for you? what do other think? Due to lack of answers, the irc log you copied and a quick google found bug#435070, I think it is acceptable (at least it is current practice) and will upload. Given all the time it has taken to do this, I will just change it myself and upload now. thanks. would it be a good idea to add a section about howto handle autotools generated files to the wiki? This is of general interest. It should probably not be in the team's page. dunno. if it was of general interest, then it should probably be stated somewhere (even if it was a team's page), rather than no where. moving content from one page to another shouldn't be too complicate nowadays either :-) and then: what i had in mind was more of establishing a best practice for this team; other teams/sponsors/... can adapt (or have already adapted) to the same practice if they feel like it. fgmasd IOhannes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk7OVQQACgkQkX2Xpv6ydvRhgQCg8Ip53KOWxt7/gYbQ6c54Emoo UscAn0rt/W/pFqqfuEJaHsTKmICkCXcS =sCdx -END PGP SIGNATURE- smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
Re: please upload: pd-zexy 2.2.5
On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 07:25, IOhannes m zmoelnig zmoel...@iem.at wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2011-11-21 03:26, Felipe Sateler wrote: On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 12:49, IOhannes m zmoelnig zmoel...@iem.at wrote: right, makes sense. i adapted pd-zexy accordingly, pushed and now hope for an successfull upload. Looks like there is a strange thing with the install-sh section in debian/copyright. The license name contains spaces, and doesn't match any License: paragraph. I'm not quite sure what is the dep5 way to deal with this. Most likely the exception should be moved into the license paragraph and the qualificators to the name (with X exception) removed. it seems that all those problems only come from the autotools generated stuff, which is something where i have the feeling that it should not create problems at all. i'm therefore wondering, what is the best way to deal with autotools generated files in general. so i asked at #debian-mentors (see end of this mail), with the conclusion (as i read it), that it might probably be best to leave out generated files from debian/copyright alltogether. would this be acceptable? for you? what do other think? Due to lack of answers, the irc log you copied and a quick google found bug#435070, I think it is acceptable (at least it is current practice) and will upload. Given all the time it has taken to do this, I will just change it myself and upload now. would it be a good idea to add a section about howto handle autotools generated files to the wiki? This is of general interest. It should probably not be in the team's page. -- Saludos, Felipe Sateler ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
Re: please upload: pd-zexy 2.2.5
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2011-11-21 03:26, Felipe Sateler wrote: On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 12:49, IOhannes m zmoelnig zmoel...@iem.at wrote: right, makes sense. i adapted pd-zexy accordingly, pushed and now hope for an successfull upload. Looks like there is a strange thing with the install-sh section in debian/copyright. The license name contains spaces, and doesn't match any License: paragraph. I'm not quite sure what is the dep5 way to deal with this. Most likely the exception should be moved into the license paragraph and the qualificators to the name (with X exception) removed. it seems that all those problems only come from the autotools generated stuff, which is something where i have the feeling that it should not create problems at all. i'm therefore wondering, what is the best way to deal with autotools generated files in general. so i asked at #debian-mentors (see end of this mail), with the conclusion (as i read it), that it might probably be best to leave out generated files from debian/copyright alltogether. would this be acceptable? for you? what do other think? would it be a good idea to add a section about howto handle autotools generated files to the wiki? fgmasdr IOhannes logfile from #debian-mentors 10:10 zmoelnig are there any guidelines about what should go into debian/copyright for autotools-generated files? 10:11 zmoelnig i maintain a smallish package that is GPL2 10:11 zmoelnig but it uses autoconf/libtool 10:12 zmoelnig my debian/copyright ends up to be mostly about the license exceptions for autoconf et co. 10:12 zmoelnig which somehow feels wrong 10:15 algernon In my opinion, debian/copyright should document the license of the sources (and any assets), not that of generated files during compilation. 10:15 algernon that is, the license of autotools generated files are, in my opinion, irrelevant there. 10:55 zmoelnig algernon: thanks; is there an official statement about that as well? 10:56 zmoelnig personally i tend to agree with you 10:56 zmoelnig and of course, the autotools generated files do come with the upstream package, and are in no way marked special 10:56 Tolimar zmoelnig: Well, there is the Debian Policy and the Reject FAQ from the ftp-team. 10:57 Tolimar FWIW: Even if it's not written down, the ftp-team doesn't reject for missing autofoo stuff and similar. 11:05 algernon zmoelnig: existing practice seems to suggest that not documenting auto* generated stuff's license is at least acceptable. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk7KJxcACgkQkX2Xpv6ydvTTpACgg7PY14pISEVl2rRkWmo2A1gD kd4AoOWEkDvi3M3l/V9fepbtLjt5fLt7 =5Oki -END PGP SIGNATURE- smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
Re: please upload: pd-zexy 2.2.5
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 12:49, IOhannes m zmoelnig zmoel...@iem.at wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2011-11-15 15:34, Felipe Sateler wrote: Sorry I haven't answered, I've been very busy. aye. sorry for perstering then. anyhow NP. It seems to me that the dependency of puredata on puredata-dev should be transitory (there is no reason to need the -dev package in a user system). Therefore, the semantics should be give me puredata-dev, or puredata before puredata-dev was introduced so that the dependency can be removed in the future. right, makes sense. i adapted pd-zexy accordingly, pushed and now hope for an successfull upload. Looks like there is a strange thing with the install-sh section in debian/copyright. The license name contains spaces, and doesn't match any License: paragraph. I'm not quite sure what is the dep5 way to deal with this. Most likely the exception should be moved into the license paragraph and the qualificators to the name (with X exception) removed. -- Saludos, Felipe Sateler ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
Re: please upload: pd-zexy 2.2.5
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2011-11-15 15:34, Felipe Sateler wrote: Sorry I haven't answered, I've been very busy. aye. sorry for perstering then. anyhow It seems to me that the dependency of puredata on puredata-dev should be transitory (there is no reason to need the -dev package in a user system). Therefore, the semantics should be give me puredata-dev, or puredata before puredata-dev was introduced so that the dependency can be removed in the future. right, makes sense. i adapted pd-zexy accordingly, pushed and now hope for an successfull upload. fmadsr IOhannes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk7D24kACgkQkX2Xpv6ydvQUxwCghpHRmXo5x3EfqcXqLvQXjwLJ A+0AnA85NqzYfJUIKn0H/0f5IbW/TwV2 =YT4A -END PGP SIGNATURE- smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
Re: please upload: pd-zexy 2.2.5
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2011-11-11 14:15, IOhannes zmölnig wrote: but I couldn't upload :(. THe build dependency should be puredata-dev | puredata ( 0.43), since puredata = 0.43 is not enough to build. hmm, puredata _should_ be enough even with 0.43, as it depends on puredata-dev. there was a bug in the puredata (=0.43 0.43.0-4) package, where puredata would not depend on puredata-dev. this has been fixed with 0.43.0-4, which afaik is the only 0.43 package to be found in debian (=wheezy) and ubuntu (=oneric). so do you (felipe, others?) have a version of puredata that does not guarantee puredata-dev? gfmadsr IOhannes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk7CdGcACgkQkX2Xpv6ydvQU3wCeP/tJ3i2TnZFB3Jo85Be3cIZQ lMEAn2AgshIWynSUVDFoO/W9EplG3Po0 =/nc9 -END PGP SIGNATURE- smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
Re: please upload: pd-zexy 2.2.5
On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 11:17, IOhannes m zmoelnig zmoel...@iem.at wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2011-11-11 14:15, IOhannes zmölnig wrote: but I couldn't upload :(. THe build dependency should be puredata-dev | puredata ( 0.43), since puredata = 0.43 is not enough to build. hmm, puredata _should_ be enough even with 0.43, as it depends on puredata-dev. there was a bug in the puredata (=0.43 0.43.0-4) package, where puredata would not depend on puredata-dev. this has been fixed with 0.43.0-4, which afaik is the only 0.43 package to be found in debian (=wheezy) and ubuntu (=oneric). so do you (felipe, others?) have a version of puredata that does not guarantee puredata-dev? Sorry I haven't answered, I've been very busy. It seems to me that the dependency of puredata on puredata-dev should be transitory (there is no reason to need the -dev package in a user system). Therefore, the semantics should be give me puredata-dev, or puredata before puredata-dev was introduced so that the dependency can be removed in the future. -- Saludos, Felipe Sateler ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
Re: please upload: pd-zexy 2.2.5
On 11/11/2011 03:02 AM, Felipe Sateler wrote: On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 13:31, IOhannes m zmoelnig zmoel...@iem.at wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 i hopefully fixed the remaining issues with pd-zexy (namely: depending on puredata-core rather than puredata; not shipping license files that are in debian anyhow) the new package fixes an RC bug, so i think it rather important to have it included asap. also, the last package was uploaded by felipe on 2010-11-09, so i thought it a nice coincidence to update it just after a year :-) Off-by-one... true, but i thought i'll take the chance :-) but I couldn't upload :(. THe build dependency should be puredata-dev | puredata ( 0.43), since puredata = 0.43 is not enough to build. hmm, puredata _should_ be enough even with 0.43, as it depends on puredata-dev. there was a bug in the puredata (=0.43 0.43.0-4) package, where puredata would not depend on puredata-dev. this has been fixed with 0.43.0-4, which afaik is the only 0.43 package to be found in debian (=wheezy) and ubuntu (=oneric). am i missing something? fgmasr IOhannes signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
please upload: pd-zexy 2.2.5
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 i hopefully fixed the remaining issues with pd-zexy (namely: depending on puredata-core rather than puredata; not shipping license files that are in debian anyhow) the new package fixes an RC bug, so i think it rather important to have it included asap. also, the last package was uploaded by felipe on 2010-11-09, so i thought it a nice coincidence to update it just after a year :-) fgamsdr IOhannes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk67/GAACgkQkX2Xpv6ydvQK2QCghreLyNTNB6HFygaSumwF3gBH wfYAn0AvckSDO5gj/7dedvsJOxtAu9y2 =Kp4T -END PGP SIGNATURE- smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
Re: please upload: pd-zexy 2.2.5
On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 13:31, IOhannes m zmoelnig zmoel...@iem.at wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 i hopefully fixed the remaining issues with pd-zexy (namely: depending on puredata-core rather than puredata; not shipping license files that are in debian anyhow) the new package fixes an RC bug, so i think it rather important to have it included asap. also, the last package was uploaded by felipe on 2010-11-09, so i thought it a nice coincidence to update it just after a year :-) Off-by-one... but I couldn't upload :(. THe build dependency should be puredata-dev | puredata ( 0.43), since puredata = 0.43 is not enough to build. -- Saludos, Felipe Sateler ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
