Bug#608807: ices2: ethernet address changed

2011-01-03 Thread Bob Proulx
Package: ices2
Version: 2.0.1-9
Severity: normal

A dist-upgrade today upgraded ices2.  The new dependencies pulled in
dnet-common, libdnet, libroar0, and muroard which caused the machine
to set the ethernet address to aa:0:4:0:a:4 from its previous address.
This of course caused the network to be problematic until the arp
caches timed out.  The package changing the ethernet address appears
to be dnet-common which is now a dependency of ices2.

Does ices2 really need to have decnet installed and configured?

Bob


-- System Information:
Debian Release: 6.0
  APT prefers unstable
  APT policy: (500, 'unstable'), (1, 'experimental')
Architecture: amd64 (x86_64)

Kernel: Linux 2.6.32-5-amd64 (SMP w/4 CPU cores)
Locale: LANG=en_US.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8)
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash

Versions of packages ices2 depends on:
ii  libasound2  1.0.23-2.1   shared library for ALSA applicatio
ii  libc6   2.11.2-7 Embedded GNU C Library: Shared lib
ii  libogg0 1.2.0~dfsg-1 Ogg bitstream library
ii  libroar00.3-2foundation libraries for the RoarA
ii  libshout3   2.2.2-5+b1   MP3/Ogg Vorbis broadcast streaming
ii  libvorbis0a 1.3.1-1  The Vorbis General Audio Compressi
ii  libvorbisenc2   1.3.1-1  The Vorbis General Audio Compressi
ii  libxml2 2.7.8.dfsg-2 GNOME XML library
ii  netbase 4.44 Basic TCP/IP networking system

ices2 recommends no packages.

Versions of packages ices2 suggests:
ii  icecast2  2.3.2-6Ogg Vorbis and MP3 streaming media
ii  muroard [roaraudio-server]0.1.0-4minimalist RoarAudio sound daemon

-- no debconf information



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Bug#608807: ices2: ethernet address changed

2011-01-03 Thread Jonas Smedegaard

reassign 608807 libdnet
severity 608807 important
retitle 608807 libdnet: library should only suggest dnet-common
thanks

On Mon, Jan 03, 2011 at 09:54:16AM -0700, Bob Proulx wrote:

A dist-upgrade today upgraded ices2.  The new dependencies pulled in
dnet-common, libdnet, libroar0, and muroard which caused the machine
to set the ethernet address to aa:0:4:0:a:4 from its previous address.
This of course caused the network to be problematic until the arp
caches timed out.  The package changing the ethernet address appears
to be dnet-common which is now a dependency of ices2.

Does ices2 really need to have decnet installed and configured?


The newest ices2 supports libroar, which supports libdnet.

What seems wrong to me is not that linkage, but instead that the 
_library_ libdnet recommends the (apparent) _daemon_ dnet-common.


When dnet-common apparently affect the running system by default, I 
believe it is wrong to claim that libdnet use it in all but unusual 
installations - which is the definition of Requires according to 
Debian Policy ยง7.2.


It seems to me that libdnet should only suggest dnet-common.

Or alternatively (and less favored IMO), that dnet-common should not 
activate any of its system-affecting features by default.



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Bug#608807: ices2: ethernet address changed

2011-01-03 Thread Philipp Schafft
reflum,

On Mon, 2011-01-03 at 09:54 -0700, Bob Proulx wrote:
 Package: ices2
 Version: 2.0.1-9
 Severity: normal
 
 A dist-upgrade today upgraded ices2.  The new dependencies pulled in
 dnet-common, libdnet, libroar0, and muroard which caused the machine
 to set the ethernet address to aa:0:4:0:a:4 from its previous address.
 This of course caused the network to be problematic until the arp
 caches timed out.  The package changing the ethernet address appears
 to be dnet-common which is now a dependency of ices2.


To clear this up:

From #608812
 ices2 depends libroar0.
 libroar0 recommends roaraudio-server which is virtual, muroard got
 selected.
 libroar0 depends libdnet.
 libdnet recommends dnet-common.

The network setup thingy is part of dnet-common. Installing without it
is possible. libdnet does not produce strange errors on missing
dnet-common, it just detects the non existing support (implecide) and
returns normal ENOSYS and friends. So no problem here if not installed.

So please have a look if installing without recommends works.

Depends of ices2 on libroar0 isn't the problem.

I suggest to:
close the bug as invalid (it's not ices2's problem) as the install does
exactly what it is suppost to do: it try to set up the system in a way
all features works
OR re-assign it to source package dnprogs which includes libdnet and
dnet-common and request for some better way to solve this.

I do not consider this a ices2 bug as dnet-common is not a depends or
recommends of ices2.

 Does ices2 really need to have decnet installed and configured?

No, but:
libroar0 is used and it depends on libdnet so installed libdnet is
required (but the lib is very small and and stuff so I do not consider
this a problem). Configrued: no but in the case you actually want to use
DECnet support.


Hope I made this a bit more clear :)


 Bob
 
 
 -- System Information:
 Debian Release: 6.0
   APT prefers unstable
   APT policy: (500, 'unstable'), (1, 'experimental')
 Architecture: amd64 (x86_64)
 
 Kernel: Linux 2.6.32-5-amd64 (SMP w/4 CPU cores)
 Locale: LANG=en_US.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8)
 Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash
 
 Versions of packages ices2 depends on:
 ii  libasound2  1.0.23-2.1   shared library for ALSA
 applicatio
 ii  libc6   2.11.2-7 Embedded GNU C Library:
 Shared lib
 ii  libogg0 1.2.0~dfsg-1 Ogg bitstream library
 ii  libroar00.3-2foundation libraries for
 the RoarA
 ii  libshout3   2.2.2-5+b1   MP3/Ogg Vorbis broadcast
 streaming
 ii  libvorbis0a 1.3.1-1  The Vorbis General Audio
 Compressi
 ii  libvorbisenc2   1.3.1-1  The Vorbis General Audio
 Compressi
 ii  libxml2 2.7.8.dfsg-2 GNOME XML library
 ii  netbase 4.44 Basic TCP/IP networking
 system
 
 ices2 recommends no packages.
 
 Versions of packages ices2 suggests:
 ii  icecast2  2.3.2-6Ogg Vorbis and MP3
 streaming media
 ii  muroard [roaraudio-server]0.1.0-4minimalist RoarAudio
 sound daemon
 
 -- no debconf information


-- 
Philipp.
 (Rah of PH2)


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Bug#608807: ices2: ethernet address changed

2011-01-03 Thread Jonas Smedegaard

Hi Philipp,

Thanks for your clarification,

On Tue, Jan 04, 2011 at 12:46:21AM +0100, Philipp Schafft wrote:

I suggest to:
close the bug as invalid (it's not ices2's problem) as the install does
exactly what it is suppost to do: it try to set up the system in a way
all features works
OR re-assign it to source package dnprogs which includes libdnet and
dnet-common and request for some better way to solve this.


Already done the latter: reassigned to libdnet.

I find it wrong to close it when indeed there _is_ a bug somewhere.


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Bug#608807: ices2: ethernet address changed

2011-01-03 Thread Jonas Smedegaard

reassign 608807 libdnet
severity 608807 important
retitle 608807 libdnet: library should only suggest dnet-common
thanks

[sent again - now cc'ed cont...@bugs.debian.org to actually take effect]


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