Bug#608807: ices2: ethernet address changed
Package: ices2 Version: 2.0.1-9 Severity: normal A dist-upgrade today upgraded ices2. The new dependencies pulled in dnet-common, libdnet, libroar0, and muroard which caused the machine to set the ethernet address to aa:0:4:0:a:4 from its previous address. This of course caused the network to be problematic until the arp caches timed out. The package changing the ethernet address appears to be dnet-common which is now a dependency of ices2. Does ices2 really need to have decnet installed and configured? Bob -- System Information: Debian Release: 6.0 APT prefers unstable APT policy: (500, 'unstable'), (1, 'experimental') Architecture: amd64 (x86_64) Kernel: Linux 2.6.32-5-amd64 (SMP w/4 CPU cores) Locale: LANG=en_US.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8) Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash Versions of packages ices2 depends on: ii libasound2 1.0.23-2.1 shared library for ALSA applicatio ii libc6 2.11.2-7 Embedded GNU C Library: Shared lib ii libogg0 1.2.0~dfsg-1 Ogg bitstream library ii libroar00.3-2foundation libraries for the RoarA ii libshout3 2.2.2-5+b1 MP3/Ogg Vorbis broadcast streaming ii libvorbis0a 1.3.1-1 The Vorbis General Audio Compressi ii libvorbisenc2 1.3.1-1 The Vorbis General Audio Compressi ii libxml2 2.7.8.dfsg-2 GNOME XML library ii netbase 4.44 Basic TCP/IP networking system ices2 recommends no packages. Versions of packages ices2 suggests: ii icecast2 2.3.2-6Ogg Vorbis and MP3 streaming media ii muroard [roaraudio-server]0.1.0-4minimalist RoarAudio sound daemon -- no debconf information ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
Bug#608807: ices2: ethernet address changed
reassign 608807 libdnet severity 608807 important retitle 608807 libdnet: library should only suggest dnet-common thanks On Mon, Jan 03, 2011 at 09:54:16AM -0700, Bob Proulx wrote: A dist-upgrade today upgraded ices2. The new dependencies pulled in dnet-common, libdnet, libroar0, and muroard which caused the machine to set the ethernet address to aa:0:4:0:a:4 from its previous address. This of course caused the network to be problematic until the arp caches timed out. The package changing the ethernet address appears to be dnet-common which is now a dependency of ices2. Does ices2 really need to have decnet installed and configured? The newest ices2 supports libroar, which supports libdnet. What seems wrong to me is not that linkage, but instead that the _library_ libdnet recommends the (apparent) _daemon_ dnet-common. When dnet-common apparently affect the running system by default, I believe it is wrong to claim that libdnet use it in all but unusual installations - which is the definition of Requires according to Debian Policy ยง7.2. It seems to me that libdnet should only suggest dnet-common. Or alternatively (and less favored IMO), that dnet-common should not activate any of its system-affecting features by default. - Jonas -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing [ ] keep private signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
Bug#608807: ices2: ethernet address changed
reflum, On Mon, 2011-01-03 at 09:54 -0700, Bob Proulx wrote: Package: ices2 Version: 2.0.1-9 Severity: normal A dist-upgrade today upgraded ices2. The new dependencies pulled in dnet-common, libdnet, libroar0, and muroard which caused the machine to set the ethernet address to aa:0:4:0:a:4 from its previous address. This of course caused the network to be problematic until the arp caches timed out. The package changing the ethernet address appears to be dnet-common which is now a dependency of ices2. To clear this up: From #608812 ices2 depends libroar0. libroar0 recommends roaraudio-server which is virtual, muroard got selected. libroar0 depends libdnet. libdnet recommends dnet-common. The network setup thingy is part of dnet-common. Installing without it is possible. libdnet does not produce strange errors on missing dnet-common, it just detects the non existing support (implecide) and returns normal ENOSYS and friends. So no problem here if not installed. So please have a look if installing without recommends works. Depends of ices2 on libroar0 isn't the problem. I suggest to: close the bug as invalid (it's not ices2's problem) as the install does exactly what it is suppost to do: it try to set up the system in a way all features works OR re-assign it to source package dnprogs which includes libdnet and dnet-common and request for some better way to solve this. I do not consider this a ices2 bug as dnet-common is not a depends or recommends of ices2. Does ices2 really need to have decnet installed and configured? No, but: libroar0 is used and it depends on libdnet so installed libdnet is required (but the lib is very small and and stuff so I do not consider this a problem). Configrued: no but in the case you actually want to use DECnet support. Hope I made this a bit more clear :) Bob -- System Information: Debian Release: 6.0 APT prefers unstable APT policy: (500, 'unstable'), (1, 'experimental') Architecture: amd64 (x86_64) Kernel: Linux 2.6.32-5-amd64 (SMP w/4 CPU cores) Locale: LANG=en_US.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8) Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash Versions of packages ices2 depends on: ii libasound2 1.0.23-2.1 shared library for ALSA applicatio ii libc6 2.11.2-7 Embedded GNU C Library: Shared lib ii libogg0 1.2.0~dfsg-1 Ogg bitstream library ii libroar00.3-2foundation libraries for the RoarA ii libshout3 2.2.2-5+b1 MP3/Ogg Vorbis broadcast streaming ii libvorbis0a 1.3.1-1 The Vorbis General Audio Compressi ii libvorbisenc2 1.3.1-1 The Vorbis General Audio Compressi ii libxml2 2.7.8.dfsg-2 GNOME XML library ii netbase 4.44 Basic TCP/IP networking system ices2 recommends no packages. Versions of packages ices2 suggests: ii icecast2 2.3.2-6Ogg Vorbis and MP3 streaming media ii muroard [roaraudio-server]0.1.0-4minimalist RoarAudio sound daemon -- no debconf information -- Philipp. (Rah of PH2) signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
Bug#608807: ices2: ethernet address changed
Hi Philipp, Thanks for your clarification, On Tue, Jan 04, 2011 at 12:46:21AM +0100, Philipp Schafft wrote: I suggest to: close the bug as invalid (it's not ices2's problem) as the install does exactly what it is suppost to do: it try to set up the system in a way all features works OR re-assign it to source package dnprogs which includes libdnet and dnet-common and request for some better way to solve this. Already done the latter: reassigned to libdnet. I find it wrong to close it when indeed there _is_ a bug somewhere. - Jonas -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing [ ] keep private signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
Bug#608807: ices2: ethernet address changed
reassign 608807 libdnet severity 608807 important retitle 608807 libdnet: library should only suggest dnet-common thanks [sent again - now cc'ed cont...@bugs.debian.org to actually take effect] - Jonas -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing [ ] keep private signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers