Re: ITP: libcrystalhd2 -- Library for Broadcom Crystal HD video decoder cards
On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 03:40:37PM -0400, Andres Mejia wrote: On Monday 16 August 2010 06:32:59 Reinhard Tartler wrote: On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 08:19:40 (CEST), Andres Mejia wrote: On Tuesday 10 August 2010 23:38:09 Reinhard Tartler wrote: On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 14:39:19 (EDT), Andres Mejia wrote: Is there any progress with getting libcrystalhd2 into Debian? I would like to help if that's alright. just curious, is this a driver package? what kind of hardware does it support, and how big is the expected userbase? This is just for packaging the library. Driver is in mainstream kernel as of 2.6.34 so there's no need for us to package that. Firmware can't be included because it's under a non-free license. Here's the firmware license. Ah, makes sense. Thanks for the explanation. I think this package makes most sense for our team if at least two members of our team can actually test and use those cards. This requires running a 2.6.34 kernel and using this firmware. Otherwise I'm not so sure. Well, I don't have the necessary hardware to test myself either. Shall I go ahead and place this under collab-maint and ask debien-mentors for a sponser? Huh?!? If you succeed at that, you've just proven exactly why I dislike the sponsor system: People not really responsible about some packages let others also not really responsible put them into debian. The sponsor system wasn't designed to loosen responsibility but in effect it (sometimes) does that. No - please do not try to get a package into Debian which you do not care about yourself, make sure yourself works properly, and intend yourself to maintain in the future to keep working properly. Sorry if I sound rough. I really really appreciate efforts - also contributions other than properly packaged and maintained packages. I just really want it perfectly clear what package maintainance is. Kind regards, - Jonas -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing [ ] keep private signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
Re: ITP: libcrystalhd2 -- Library for Broadcom Crystal HD video decoder cards
On Tuesday 17 August 2010 17:09:25 Jonas Smedegaard wrote: On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 03:40:37PM -0400, Andres Mejia wrote: On Monday 16 August 2010 06:32:59 Reinhard Tartler wrote: On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 08:19:40 (CEST), Andres Mejia wrote: On Tuesday 10 August 2010 23:38:09 Reinhard Tartler wrote: On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 14:39:19 (EDT), Andres Mejia wrote: Is there any progress with getting libcrystalhd2 into Debian? I would like to help if that's alright. just curious, is this a driver package? what kind of hardware does it support, and how big is the expected userbase? This is just for packaging the library. Driver is in mainstream kernel as of 2.6.34 so there's no need for us to package that. Firmware can't be included because it's under a non-free license. Here's the firmware license. Ah, makes sense. Thanks for the explanation. I think this package makes most sense for our team if at least two members of our team can actually test and use those cards. This requires running a 2.6.34 kernel and using this firmware. Otherwise I'm not so sure. Well, I don't have the necessary hardware to test myself either. Shall I go ahead and place this under collab-maint and ask debien-mentors for a sponser? Huh?!? If you succeed at that, you've just proven exactly why I dislike the sponsor system: People not really responsible about some packages let others also not really responsible put them into debian. The sponsor system wasn't designed to loosen responsibility but in effect it (sometimes) does that. No - please do not try to get a package into Debian which you do not care about yourself, make sure yourself works properly, and intend yourself to maintain in the future to keep working properly. Sorry if I sound rough. I really really appreciate efforts - also contributions other than properly packaged and maintained packages. I just really want it perfectly clear what package maintainance is. Kind regards, - Jonas I never said I didn't care about this package. I'm packaging this because it's a dependency for xbmc, and one of xbmc's upstream devs is also upstream dev for crystalhd. It's really only him that I know personally who can test this package properly, and I don't have reason not to believe crystalhd is thouroughly tested. I'm essentially packaging crystalhd for him. Not all devs know how to package software for Debian, and even fewer know how to do it right. And about my last email, it's just a suggestion anyway. I'm not sure what's best either, whether to team maintain it, even though it's possible nobody in the team has the necessary hardware to test this package. Like I said, I only have the word of one of my fellow devs for xbmc to go with (whether crystalhd is properly tested or not). -- Regards, Andres Mejia ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
Re: ITP: libcrystalhd2 -- Library for Broadcom Crystal HD video decoder cards
On Tuesday 10 August 2010 23:38:09 Reinhard Tartler wrote: On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 14:39:19 (EDT), Andres Mejia wrote: Is there any progress with getting libcrystalhd2 into Debian? I would like to help if that's alright. just curious, is this a driver package? what kind of hardware does it support, and how big is the expected userbase? This is just for packaging the library. Driver is in mainstream kernel as of 2.6.34 so there's no need for us to package that. Firmware can't be included because it's under a non-free license. Here's the firmware license. FIRMWARE BINARIES ARE DISTRIBUTED UNDER THE FOLLOWING LICENSE - BINARIES COVERED WITH THIS LICENSE ARE bcm70015fw.bin and bcm70012fw.bin Copyright 2007-2010 Broadcom Corporation Redistribution and use in binary forms of this software, without modification, are permitted provided that the following conditions are met: Redistributions must reproduce the above copyright notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer in the documentation and/or other materials provided with the distribution. Neither the name of Broadcom nor the names of its contributors may be used to endorse or promote products derived from this software without specific prior written permission. THIS SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED “AS IS'' AND ANY EXPRESS OR IMPLIED WARRANTIES, INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, THE IMPLIED WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY AND FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE ARE DISCLAIMED. IN NO EVENT SHALL BROADCOM BE LIABLE FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, EXEMPLARY, OR CONSEQUENTIAL DAMAGES(INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, PROCUREMENT OF SUBSTITUTE GOODS OR SERVICES;LOSS OF USE, DATA, OR PROFITS; OR BUSINESS INTERRUPTION) HOWEVER CAUSED AND ON ANY THEORY OF LIABILITY, WHETHER IN CONTRACT, STRICT LIABILITY, OR TORT(INCLUDING NEGLIGENCE OR OTHERWISE) ARISING IN ANY WAY OUT OF THE USE OF THIS SOFTWARE, EVEN IF ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGE. Note that redistribution is only allowed in binary form and *without* modification. Perhaps it's better for the firmware to be shipped with firmware-linux-nonfree anyway. -- Regards, Andres Mejia ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
Re: ITP: libcrystalhd2 -- Library for Broadcom Crystal HD video decoder cards
On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 08:19:40 (CEST), Andres Mejia wrote: On Tuesday 10 August 2010 23:38:09 Reinhard Tartler wrote: On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 14:39:19 (EDT), Andres Mejia wrote: Is there any progress with getting libcrystalhd2 into Debian? I would like to help if that's alright. just curious, is this a driver package? what kind of hardware does it support, and how big is the expected userbase? This is just for packaging the library. Driver is in mainstream kernel as of 2.6.34 so there's no need for us to package that. Firmware can't be included because it's under a non-free license. Here's the firmware license. Ah, makes sense. Thanks for the explanation. I think this package makes most sense for our team if at least two members of our team can actually test and use those cards. This requires running a 2.6.34 kernel and using this firmware. Otherwise I'm not so sure. FIRMWARE BINARIES ARE DISTRIBUTED UNDER THE FOLLOWING LICENSE - BINARIES COVERED WITH THIS LICENSE ARE bcm70015fw.bin and bcm70012fw.bin Copyright 2007-2010 Broadcom Corporation Redistribution and use in binary forms of this software, without modification, are permitted provided that the following conditions are met: Redistributions must reproduce the above copyright notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer in the documentation and/or other materials provided with the distribution. Neither the name of Broadcom nor the names of its contributors may be used to endorse or promote products derived from this software without specific prior written permission. THIS SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED “AS IS'' AND ANY EXPRESS OR IMPLIED WARRANTIES, INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, THE IMPLIED WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY AND FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE ARE DISCLAIMED. IN NO EVENT SHALL BROADCOM BE LIABLE FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, EXEMPLARY, OR CONSEQUENTIAL DAMAGES(INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, PROCUREMENT OF SUBSTITUTE GOODS OR SERVICES;LOSS OF USE, DATA, OR PROFITS; OR BUSINESS INTERRUPTION) HOWEVER CAUSED AND ON ANY THEORY OF LIABILITY, WHETHER IN CONTRACT, STRICT LIABILITY, OR TORT(INCLUDING NEGLIGENCE OR OTHERWISE) ARISING IN ANY WAY OUT OF THE USE OF THIS SOFTWARE, EVEN IF ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGE. Note that redistribution is only allowed in binary form and *without* modification. Perhaps it's better for the firmware to be shipped with firmware-linux-nonfree anyway. Makes sense to me. -- Gruesse/greetings, Reinhard Tartler, KeyID 945348A4 ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
Re: ITP: libcrystalhd2 -- Library for Broadcom Crystal HD video decoder cards
Am 11.08.2010 05:13, schrieb Andres Mejia: Just so you know, I've started some packaging work myself. This packaging is based off of packaging work already done by XBMC devs. Check [1] for packaging work done. http://git.debian.org/?p=pkg-multimedia/crystalhd.git Please add the license terms for the binary firmware files to debian/copyright. They can be found on the bottom of http://www.broadcom.com/support/crystal_hd/. - Fabian ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
ITP: libcrystalhd2 -- Library for Broadcom Crystal HD video decoder cards
Hello, Is there any progress with getting libcrystalhd2 into Debian? I would like to help if that's alright. -- Regards, Andres Mejia ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
Re: ITP: libcrystalhd2 -- Library for Broadcom Crystal HD video decoder cards
Just so you know, I've started some packaging work myself. This packaging is based off of packaging work already done by XBMC devs. Check [1] for packaging work done. http://git.debian.org/?p=pkg-multimedia/crystalhd.git On Tuesday 10 August 2010 14:39:19 Andres Mejia wrote: Hello, Is there any progress with getting libcrystalhd2 into Debian? I would like to help if that's alright. -- Regards, Andres Mejia ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
Re: ITP: libcrystalhd2 -- Library for Broadcom Crystal HD video decoder cards
On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 14:39:19 (EDT), Andres Mejia wrote: Is there any progress with getting libcrystalhd2 into Debian? I would like to help if that's alright. just curious, is this a driver package? what kind of hardware does it support, and how big is the expected userbase? -- Gruesse/greetings, Reinhard Tartler, KeyID 945348A4 ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
