Re: [SCM] supercollider/master: Further fixes to copyright file (inc added LGPL-2.1+ and MPL-1.1 notice)

2011-06-12 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
On 11-06-12 at 08:45pm, Dan S wrote:
> 2011/6/12 Jonas Smedegaard :
> > On 11-06-12 at 06:05pm, danstowell-gu...@users.alioth.debian.org wrote:
> >> +License: LGPL-2.1+
> >> +    This package is free software; you can redistribute it and/or
> >> +    modify it under the terms of the GNU Lesser General Public
> >> +    License as published by the Free Software Foundation; either
> >> +    version 2.1 of the License, or (at your option) any later version.
> >> +.
> >> +    This package is distributed in the hope that it will be useful,
> >> +    but WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of
> >> +    MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.  See the GNU
> >> +    Lesser General Public License for more details.
> >> +.
> >> +    You should have received a copy of the GNU Lesser General Public
> >> +    License along with this package; if not, write to the Free Software
> >> +    Foundation, Inc., 51 Franklin St, Fifth Floor, Boston, MA  02110-1301 
> >> USA
> >> + .
> >> + On Debian systems the full text of the GNU General Public License 
> >> version 2
> >> + can be found in the `/usr/share/common-licenses/LGPL-2.1' file.
> >
> > Last sentence refer to wrong license.
> 
> Oops, thanks.
> 
> > Last but one sentence is superfluous.
> 
> Superfluous? I don't see.

Oh, sorry.  No, you are right: As it is composed above it is not 
superfluous.

What I do myself (and wrongly thought you'd done as well) is to _not_ 
treat the paragraph referring to upstream canonical license location as 
part of the licensing info needing verbatim copying - because of the 
fact that it has been common practice in Debian for some time (to the 
extend that it triggers a lintian warning) to actively violate the 
"verbatim" of that part regarding GPL licenses which reference an old 
postal address for the Free Software Foundation.

What I do instead is include in a Comment: subsection a modern reference 
to the FSF website, disregarding how upstream project referred to it.

...and when doing that, the verbatim copy is superfluous.


> Let me check that I understand: all 567 lines of the MPL to go in the 
> copyright file?

Don't take my word for it: 
http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-docs.html#s-copyrightfile

The central word there is "verbatim".


> Packages such as thunderbird and firefox put it in MPL.gz, which we 
> could put in the debian/ dir but I don't think the policy allows it to 
> go in a different file...?

If you mean that upstream projects ship their licensing that way then 
that is irrelevant: The issue is Debian Policy, not some universal law.

If you mean Debian packages (of _renaming_ of said projects: icedove and 
iceweasel), and that they ship licensing text separately _instead_ of 
verbatim inside the debian/copyright file itself, then I agree with your 
suggestion that it is not allowed by DEbian Policy, and I suggest filing 
bugreports about that, with a high severity.


Regards,

 - Jonas

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Re: [SCM] supercollider/master: Further fixes to copyright file (inc added LGPL-2.1+ and MPL-1.1 notice)

2011-06-12 Thread Dan S
2011/6/12 Jonas Smedegaard :
> On 11-06-12 at 06:05pm, danstowell-gu...@users.alioth.debian.org wrote:
>> +License: LGPL-2.1+
>> +    This package is free software; you can redistribute it and/or
>> +    modify it under the terms of the GNU Lesser General Public
>> +    License as published by the Free Software Foundation; either
>> +    version 2.1 of the License, or (at your option) any later version.
>> +.
>> +    This package is distributed in the hope that it will be useful,
>> +    but WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of
>> +    MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.  See the GNU
>> +    Lesser General Public License for more details.
>> +.
>> +    You should have received a copy of the GNU Lesser General Public
>> +    License along with this package; if not, write to the Free Software
>> +    Foundation, Inc., 51 Franklin St, Fifth Floor, Boston, MA  02110-1301 
>> USA
>> + .
>> + On Debian systems the full text of the GNU General Public License version 2
>> + can be found in the `/usr/share/common-licenses/LGPL-2.1' file.
>
> Last sentence refer to wrong license.

Oops, thanks.

> Last but one sentence is superfluous.

Superfluous? I don't see.


>> +License: MPL-1.1
>> + The contents of this package are subject to the Mozilla Public License 
>> Version
>> + 1.1 (the "License"); you may not use this file except in compliance with
>> + the License. You may obtain a copy of the License at
>> + http://www.mozilla.org/MPL/
>> + .
>> + Software distributed under the License is distributed on an "AS IS" basis,
>> + WITHOUT WARRANTY OF ANY KIND, either express or implied. See the License
>> + for the specific language governing rights and limitations under the
>> + License.
>> + .
>> + On Debian systems,the complete text of the Mozilla
>> + Public License Version 1.1 is part of xulrunner package and can be found in
>> + "/usr/share/doc/xulrunner/MPL.gz".
>
> Such reference is not allowed (unless depending on said other package).
> Full licensing needs to be included!

Let me check that I understand: all 567 lines of the MPL to go in the
copyright file? Packages such as thunderbird and firefox put it in
MPL.gz, which we could put in the debian/ dir but I don't think the
policy allows it to go in a different file...?

Dan


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Re: [SCM] supercollider/master: Further fixes to copyright file (inc added LGPL-2.1+ and MPL-1.1 notice)

2011-06-12 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
On 11-06-12 at 06:05pm, danstowell-gu...@users.alioth.debian.org wrote:
> +License: LGPL-2.1+
> +This package is free software; you can redistribute it and/or
> +modify it under the terms of the GNU Lesser General Public
> +License as published by the Free Software Foundation; either
> +version 2.1 of the License, or (at your option) any later version.
> +.
> +This package is distributed in the hope that it will be useful,
> +but WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of
> +MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.  See the GNU
> +Lesser General Public License for more details.
> +.
> +You should have received a copy of the GNU Lesser General Public
> +License along with this package; if not, write to the Free Software
> +Foundation, Inc., 51 Franklin St, Fifth Floor, Boston, MA  02110-1301 USA
> + .
> + On Debian systems the full text of the GNU General Public License version 2
> + can be found in the `/usr/share/common-licenses/LGPL-2.1' file.

Last sentence refer to wrong license.

Last but one sentence is superfluous.


> +License: MPL-1.1
> + The contents of this package are subject to the Mozilla Public License 
> Version
> + 1.1 (the "License"); you may not use this file except in compliance with
> + the License. You may obtain a copy of the License at
> + http://www.mozilla.org/MPL/
> + .
> + Software distributed under the License is distributed on an "AS IS" basis,
> + WITHOUT WARRANTY OF ANY KIND, either express or implied. See the License
> + for the specific language governing rights and limitations under the
> + License.
> + .
> + On Debian systems,the complete text of the Mozilla
> + Public License Version 1.1 is part of xulrunner package and can be found in
> + "/usr/share/doc/xulrunner/MPL.gz".

Such reference is not allowed (unless depending on said other package).  
Full licensing needs to be included!


 - Jonas

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