Re: Dbus-c++ Debian package maintainership.

2011-03-18 Thread Adrian Knoth
On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 12:29:35PM +1100, Luke Yelavich wrote:

 Greetings all.

Hi!

 If the team decides to not maintain this package, then we need to
 either make sure the package gets a maintainer in Debian from
 somewhere, or, we talk to Upstream about alternative solutions. I
 understand and accept in advance any reasons given to not take over
 maintainership of dbus-c++.

Let me add the following statement from ffado-devel to the discussion:

   http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/message.php?msg_id=26942187

---
maybe the unbundling of dbus-c++ was premature.  Upstream appear not to
do any releases nor do they seem to have arrived at a stable API yet.
And downstreams have source incompatible versions of it or don't have it
at all.
---

If we arrive at the conclusion that dbus-c++ is unmaintainable, I'm happy
to re-add the embedded dbus-c++ bits upstream. Though I have commit
rights, we could also do it locally with a quilt patch.


Just my €0.02


Cheers

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Re: Dbus-c++ Debian package maintainership.

2011-03-18 Thread Jonas Smedegaard

On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 08:19:50AM +0100, Adrian Knoth wrote:

On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 12:29:35PM +1100, Luke Yelavich wrote:
If the team decides to not maintain this package, then we need to 
either make sure the package gets a maintainer in Debian from 
somewhere, or, we talk to Upstream about alternative solutions. I 
understand and accept in advance any reasons given to not take over 
maintainership of dbus-c++.


Let me add the following statement from ffado-devel to the discussion:

  http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/message.php?msg_id=26942187

---
maybe the unbundling of dbus-c++ was premature.  Upstream appear not to 
do any releases nor do they seem to have arrived at a stable API yet. 
And downstreams have source incompatible versions of it or don't have 
it at all.

---

If we arrive at the conclusion that dbus-c++ is unmaintainable, I'm 
happy to re-add the embedded dbus-c++ bits upstream. Though I have 
commit rights, we could also do it locally with a quilt patch.


The very fact of one other package using the same library is to me proof 
that we (Debian) should maintain dbus-c++ as a separate package despite 
upstreams possibly feeling it relevant to ship it internally.


I would certainly hope that upstreams, if internalizing, does so without 
a) making it difficult to instead link against a system shared library 
or b) forking it by making local hacks to local copy of dbus-c++ code.



I find it inappropriate for this team to maintain dbus-c++ - it is not 
specific to Multimedia.


I would be happy to join forces with you, Luke, on maintaining dbus-c++ 
at the collab-maint area or in some other team more appropriate for 
this.  I won't call it sponsoring as that is easily associated with 
you are responsible, I am your mentor which might (or might not) be 
the initial situation but should not the atmosphere we are aiming at - 
neither here in the Debian Multimedia team nor in another team formed 
for the maintainance of dbus-c++.


As you may have noticed from earlier conversations here on the list, I 
do have some strong principles in the way I handle packages: I use CDBS, 
not short-form dh.  You need not be fluent in CDBS due to this - I am ok 
with either guiding you or taking care of the parts directly tied to 
juggling CDBS, but if you for some reason have _opposite_ principles 
then obviously you are better off teaming up with someone else :-)



 - Jonas

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