Re: Please binNMU phonon-backend-vlc against the new libvlccore7
On Mi, 2013-10-30 at 16:44 +, Adam D. Barratt wrote: On 2013-10-30 15:48, Benjamin Drung wrote: On Mi, 2013-10-30 at 13:08 +0100, Rémi Denis-Courmont wrote: Hello, On Wed, 30 Oct 2013 11:38:29 +, Adam D. Barratt a...@adam-barratt.org.uk wrote: On 2013-10-28 6:46, Mateusz Łukasik wrote: recently vlc source package has been updated and it now builds libvlccore7 instead of libvlccore5. [...] phonon-backend-vlc isn't the only package affected; CCing the maintainers - what's the plan here? [...] I concur with upstream. These packages should be fixed to use the stable API from libvlc instead of using libvlccore. Looking at the other package, they all just depend on libvlc, but not on libvlccore. Just phonon-backend-vlc requires libvlccore. Mea culpa, I obviously had a moment and missed that only libvlccore had changed SONAME (can I blame jetlag?). No problem. You could blame whatever you want or be honest. ;) However, it's not just phonon-backend-vlc - goldencheetah depends on both libvlc and libvlccore. The vlc dependency is quite new (not in wheezy). May I ask you to report a bug against goldencheetah? -- Benjamin Drung Debian Ubuntu Developer ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
Re: Please binNMU phonon-backend-vlc against the new libvlccore7
On 2013-10-28 6:46, Mateusz Łukasik wrote: recently vlc source package has been updated and it now builds libvlccore7 instead of libvlccore5. It is possible to build phonon-backend-vlc against the new libvlccore7. Now phonon-backend-vlc have broken depends on i386 and amd64. On others architectures new version is not avaitable now, see #727831. phonon-backend-vlc isn't the only package affected; CCing the maintainers - what's the plan here? # Broken Depends: cytadela/contrib: cytadela [amd64 armel armhf i386 ia64 kfreebsd-amd64 kfreebsd-i386 mips mipsel powerpc s390x sparc] freetuxtv: freetuxtv [amd64 armel armhf i386 ia64 kfreebsd-amd64 kfreebsd-i386 mips mipsel powerpc s390x sparc] goldencheetah: goldencheetah [amd64 armel armhf i386 ia64 kfreebsd-amd64 kfreebsd-i386 mips mipsel powerpc s390x sparc] libplayer: libplayer2 [amd64 armel armhf i386 ia64 kfreebsd-amd64 kfreebsd-i386 mips mipsel powerpc s390x sparc] npapi-vlc: browser-plugin-vlc [amd64 armel armhf i386 ia64 kfreebsd-amd64 kfreebsd-i386 mips mipsel powerpc s390x sparc] phonon-backend-vlc: phonon-backend-vlc [amd64 armel armhf i386 ia64 kfreebsd-amd64 kfreebsd-i386 mips mipsel powerpc s390x sparc] I must admit to not being overjoyed at such changes being made in an urgency=high upload, with changelog entries such as * New major upstream release. (Closes: #436339, #632965, #642187, #698023, #593735, #724734, #665732, #700752, #704941, #708953, #712935, #398167, #646200, #679654, #654955, LP: #982953, #301193, #986785, #1038303, #1109026, #530797, #667584, #938621, #671031, #1080847, #1157384, #1173943) Unless every single one of those bugs is requesting an upload of the new version, that changelog stanza is broken imho; it should refer to the actual changes made. Regards, Adam ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
Re: Please binNMU phonon-backend-vlc against the new libvlccore7
Hello, On Wed, 30 Oct 2013 11:38:29 +, Adam D. Barratt a...@adam-barratt.org.uk wrote: On 2013-10-28 6:46, Mateusz Łukasik wrote: recently vlc source package has been updated and it now builds libvlccore7 instead of libvlccore5. It is possible to build phonon-backend-vlc against the new libvlccore7. Now phonon-backend-vlc have broken depends on i386 and amd64. On others architectures new version is not avaitable now, see #727831. phonon-backend-vlc isn't the only package affected; CCing the maintainers - what's the plan here? I don't know but this looks like a bug in phonon-backend-vlc to me, in upstream and/or in Debian. The external interface to libvlc is libvlc, not libvlccore. libvlccore is explicitly not stable and MUST ONLY be used by VLC plugins. In other words, unless a package installs something in /usr/lib/vlc/plugins, it has ZERO business linking against libvlccore directly. None of the packages below seem to pass that condition, and definitely not phonon-backend-vlc nor browser-plugin-vlc. # Broken Depends: cytadela/contrib: cytadela [amd64 armel armhf i386 ia64 kfreebsd-amd64 kfreebsd-i386 mips mipsel powerpc s390x sparc] freetuxtv: freetuxtv [amd64 armel armhf i386 ia64 kfreebsd-amd64 kfreebsd-i386 mips mipsel powerpc s390x sparc] goldencheetah: goldencheetah [amd64 armel armhf i386 ia64 kfreebsd-amd64 kfreebsd-i386 mips mipsel powerpc s390x sparc] libplayer: libplayer2 [amd64 armel armhf i386 ia64 kfreebsd-amd64 kfreebsd-i386 mips mipsel powerpc s390x sparc] npapi-vlc: browser-plugin-vlc [amd64 armel armhf i386 ia64 kfreebsd-amd64 kfreebsd-i386 mips mipsel powerpc s390x sparc] phonon-backend-vlc: phonon-backend-vlc [amd64 armel armhf i386 ia64 kfreebsd-amd64 kfreebsd-i386 mips mipsel powerpc s390x sparc] I must admit to not being overjoyed at such changes being made in an urgency=high upload, with changelog entries such as * New major upstream release. (Closes: #436339, #632965, #642187, #698023, #593735, #724734, #665732, #700752, #704941, #708953, #712935, #398167, #646200, #679654, #654955, LP: #982953, #301193, #986785, #1038303, #1109026, #530797, #667584, #938621, #671031, #1080847, #1157384, #1173943) Unless every single one of those bugs is requesting an upload of the new version, They do; they are all (fixed-)upstream bugs. And whomever made the upload even *missed* a few bug numbers there. -- Rémi Denis-Courmont Sent from my collocated server ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
Re: Please binNMU phonon-backend-vlc against the new libvlccore7
On 2013-10-30 12:08, Rémi Denis-Courmont wrote: On Wed, 30 Oct 2013 11:38:29 +, Adam D. Barratt a...@adam-barratt.org.uk wrote: [...] * New major upstream release. (Closes: #436339, #632965, #642187, #698023, #593735, #724734, #665732, #700752, #704941, #708953, #712935, #398167, #646200, #679654, #654955, LP: #982953, #301193, #986785, #1038303, #1109026, #530797, #667584, #938621, #671031, #1080847, #1157384, #1173943) Unless every single one of those bugs is requesting an upload of the new version, They do; they are all (fixed-)upstream bugs. And whomever made the upload even *missed* a few bug numbers there. As a random selection, #593735 is entitled vlc: don't exclusively depend on ttf-freefont. That is a) a packaging change and b) not a request for a new upstream version. Even if that bug were fixed upstream, that is /not/ the same as a request for a new upstream version to be uploaded. In this case, the changelog would have been better as something along the lines of: * New major upstream release: - don't exclusively depend on ttf-freefont (Closes: #593735) - change 2 (Closes: #NN) Regards, Adam ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
Re: Please binNMU phonon-backend-vlc against the new libvlccore7
On Mi, 2013-10-30 at 13:08 +0100, Rémi Denis-Courmont wrote: Hello, On Wed, 30 Oct 2013 11:38:29 +, Adam D. Barratt a...@adam-barratt.org.uk wrote: On 2013-10-28 6:46, Mateusz Łukasik wrote: recently vlc source package has been updated and it now builds libvlccore7 instead of libvlccore5. It is possible to build phonon-backend-vlc against the new libvlccore7. Now phonon-backend-vlc have broken depends on i386 and amd64. On others architectures new version is not avaitable now, see #727831. phonon-backend-vlc isn't the only package affected; CCing the maintainers - what's the plan here? I don't know but this looks like a bug in phonon-backend-vlc to me, in upstream and/or in Debian. The external interface to libvlc is libvlc, not libvlccore. libvlccore is explicitly not stable and MUST ONLY be used by VLC plugins. In other words, unless a package installs something in /usr/lib/vlc/plugins, it has ZERO business linking against libvlccore directly. None of the packages below seem to pass that condition, and definitely not phonon-backend-vlc nor browser-plugin-vlc. I concur with upstream. These packages should be fixed to use the stable API from libvlc instead of using libvlccore. Looking at the other package, they all just depend on libvlc, but not on libvlccore. Just phonon-backend-vlc requires libvlccore. -- Benjamin Drung Debian Ubuntu Developer ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
Re: Please binNMU phonon-backend-vlc against the new libvlccore7
Le mercredi 30 octobre 2013 16:48:30 Benjamin Drung a écrit : These packages should be fixed to use the stable API from libvlc instead of using libvlccore. Looking at the other package, they all just depend on libvlc, but not on libvlccore. Just phonon-backend-vlc requires libvlccore. Even that is a bug in upstream Phonon, AFAIK. -- Rémi Denis-Courmont http://www.remlab.net/ ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
Re: Please binNMU phonon-backend-vlc against the new libvlccore7
On 2013-10-30 15:48, Benjamin Drung wrote: On Mi, 2013-10-30 at 13:08 +0100, Rémi Denis-Courmont wrote: Hello, On Wed, 30 Oct 2013 11:38:29 +, Adam D. Barratt a...@adam-barratt.org.uk wrote: On 2013-10-28 6:46, Mateusz Łukasik wrote: recently vlc source package has been updated and it now builds libvlccore7 instead of libvlccore5. [...] phonon-backend-vlc isn't the only package affected; CCing the maintainers - what's the plan here? [...] I concur with upstream. These packages should be fixed to use the stable API from libvlc instead of using libvlccore. Looking at the other package, they all just depend on libvlc, but not on libvlccore. Just phonon-backend-vlc requires libvlccore. Mea culpa, I obviously had a moment and missed that only libvlccore had changed SONAME (can I blame jetlag?). However, it's not just phonon-backend-vlc - goldencheetah depends on both libvlc and libvlccore. Regards, Adam ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
