Re: mipsel buildd

2016-11-23 Thread Nicholas D Steeves
On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 09:51:33AM +, James Cowgill wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On 22/11/16 00:17, Nicholas D Steeves wrote:
> > On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 09:22:37AM +0100, James Cowgill wrote:
> >> On 15/09/16 01:15, Nicholas D Steeves wrote:
> >>> Thank you for the clarification!  Hm, I wonder if there aren't very
> >>> many mipsel build hosts, or if it's just that they're very slow?  If
> >>> the problem is that there aren't enough, I wonder if it would be
> >>> useful to write a wiki page linked to from "ways to contribute to
> >>> Debian" detailing the process of how to repurpose an old router as a
> >>> buildd host. ;-)
> >>
> >> At the moment there are more mipsel buildds than mips, but the mipsel
> >> buildds are also used for building mips64el so they can seem a bit slow
> >> at times as they have double the work to do. Extra hardware is always
> >> useful, but I'm not sure an old router would be anywhere near powerful
> >> enough to operate a buildd :)
> >
> > Haha yeah, it would be more of a proof-of-concept than a practical
> > thing ;-) Out of curiousity, do you know if most mipsel buildd hosts
> > are running on old SGI gear, on those new "Warrior" boards, or on
> > something even more exotic and expensive?
> 
> There's a list here:
> https://wiki.debian.org/MIPSPort#Build_daemons_.26_porter_boxes
> 
> Most of them are Cavium Octeon based boards except for a few Loongson
> 3As. A lot of the really old SGI stuff won't actually run stretch.

Wow, I've never heard of Octeon before, though Loongson is familiar.

Thanks James!
Nick


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Re: mipsel buildd

2016-11-22 Thread James Cowgill
Hi,

On 22/11/16 00:17, Nicholas D Steeves wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 09:22:37AM +0100, James Cowgill wrote:
>> On 15/09/16 01:15, Nicholas D Steeves wrote:
>>> Thank you for the clarification!  Hm, I wonder if there aren't very
>>> many mipsel build hosts, or if it's just that they're very slow?  If
>>> the problem is that there aren't enough, I wonder if it would be
>>> useful to write a wiki page linked to from "ways to contribute to
>>> Debian" detailing the process of how to repurpose an old router as a
>>> buildd host. ;-)
>>
>> At the moment there are more mipsel buildds than mips, but the mipsel
>> buildds are also used for building mips64el so they can seem a bit slow
>> at times as they have double the work to do. Extra hardware is always
>> useful, but I'm not sure an old router would be anywhere near powerful
>> enough to operate a buildd :)
>
> Haha yeah, it would be more of a proof-of-concept than a practical
> thing ;-) Out of curiousity, do you know if most mipsel buildd hosts
> are running on old SGI gear, on those new "Warrior" boards, or on
> something even more exotic and expensive?

There's a list here:
https://wiki.debian.org/MIPSPort#Build_daemons_.26_porter_boxes

Most of them are Cavium Octeon based boards except for a few Loongson
3As. A lot of the really old SGI stuff won't actually run stretch.

James



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Re: mipsel buildd

2016-11-21 Thread Nicholas D Steeves
On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 09:22:37AM +0100, James Cowgill wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On 15/09/16 01:15, Nicholas D Steeves wrote:
> > On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 09:08:38PM +, Mattia Rizzolo wrote:
> >> On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 05:03:23PM -0400, Nicholas D Steeves wrote:
> >>> Does "Needs-Build" status mean
> >>> that the package is still waiting for CPU time on an armel, armhf, and
> >>> mipsel system somewhere on the buildd network?
> >>
> >> Yes, it's waiting for a spare buildd to pick up the builds.
> >> I don't know how the backports upload are considered in the build
> >> priority, but clearly not near the top¹..
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ¹ e.g. I know that security builds are scheduled before anything else,
> >>   then stable, then unstable, then experimental; and that within a
> >>   single suite there are other things dictating priorities (like, new
> >>   packages are built after updated ones, even if the latter came after).
> >>   I just   don't know where backports is in that list.
> >>
> >> -- 
> >> regards,
> >> Mattia Rizzolo
> > 
> > Thank you for the clarification!  Hm, I wonder if there aren't very
> > many mipsel build hosts, or if it's just that they're very slow?  If
> > the problem is that there aren't enough, I wonder if it would be
> > useful to write a wiki page linked to from "ways to contribute to
> > Debian" detailing the process of how to repurpose an old router as a
> > buildd host. ;-)
> 
> At the moment there are more mipsel buildds than mips, but the mipsel
> buildds are also used for building mips64el so they can seem a bit slow
> at times as they have double the work to do. Extra hardware is always
> useful, but I'm not sure an old router would be anywhere near powerful
> enough to operate a buildd :)
> 
> Thanks,
> James
> 

Hi James,

Haha yeah, it would be more of a proof-of-concept than a practical
thing ;-) Out of curiousity, do you know if most mipsel buildd hosts
are running on old SGI gear, on those new "Warrior" boards, or on
something even more exotic and expensive?

Cheers,
Nicholas


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