Re: xvidcore broken - ok to use CDBS?

2010-09-13 Thread Fabian Greffrath
Am 12.09.2010 12:03, schrieb Jonas Smedegaard: Applying CDBS without asking first would be considered outragous, I suspect. You betcha! Not offering my help to avoid mentioning CDBS would be ridiculous. Hint: Offer your help without mentioning CDBS. Especially in cases like this, in which

Re: xvidcore broken - ok to use CDBS?

2010-09-13 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 09:40:10AM +0200, Fabian Greffrath wrote: Am 12.09.2010 12:03, schrieb Jonas Smedegaard: Applying CDBS without asking first would be considered outragous, I suspect. You betcha! Not offering my help to avoid mentioning CDBS would be ridiculous. Hint: Offer your

Re: xvidcore broken - ok to use CDBS?

2010-09-13 Thread Fabian Greffrath
Am 13.09.2010 11:20, schrieb Jonas Smedegaard: From now on I will stay away whenever my intended help involves CDBS (for packages not already using it), as that is essentially what you tell me to do. I am not *telling* you what to do. At least this is not my intention and I'd like to

Re: xvidcore broken - ok to use CDBS?

2010-09-13 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 11:29:18AM +0200, Fabian Greffrath wrote: Am 13.09.2010 11:20, schrieb Jonas Smedegaard: From now on I will stay away whenever my intended help involves CDBS (for packages not already using it), as that is essentially what you tell me to do. I am not *telling* you

Re: xvidcore broken - ok to use CDBS?

2010-09-13 Thread Alessio Treglia
Jonas, On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 11:20 AM, Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk wrote: From now on I will stay away whenever my intended help involves CDBS (for packages not already using it), as that is essentially what you tell me to do. I admire you and your work, I think you're are a great

Re: xvidcore broken - ok to use CDBS?

2010-09-13 Thread Reinhard Tartler
On Mo, Sep 13, 2010 at 11:53:22 (CEST), Jonas Smedegaard wrote: I did *not* at this time suggest others to convert to CDBS - I offered to do it myself. Instead, I did 2 things: a) pointed out a problem, and b) offered to solve it. Thanks for a), and Thanks, but no for b). please don't

Re: xvidcore broken - ok to use CDBS?

2010-09-13 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 12:06:53PM +0200, Alessio Treglia wrote: Jonas, On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 11:20 AM, Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk wrote: From now on I will stay away whenever my intended help involves CDBS (for packages not already using it), as that is essentially what you tell me to

Re: xvidcore broken - ok to use CDBS?

2010-09-13 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 12:55:02PM +0200, Reinhard Tartler wrote: On Mo, Sep 13, 2010 at 11:53:22 (CEST), Jonas Smedegaard wrote: I did *not* at this time suggest others to convert to CDBS - I offered to do it myself. Instead, I did 2 things: a) pointed out a problem, and b) offered to solve

Re: xvidcore broken - ok to use CDBS?

2010-09-13 Thread Fabian Greffrath
Although I have not been asked directly, I feel free to respond. Am 13.09.2010 13:04, schrieb Jonas Smedegaard: * I want to help where I can and where my help is welcome. * I cannot help with issues directly tied to short-form dh, since I am not familiar with this technique. IMHO these two

Re: xvidcore broken - ok to use CDBS?

2010-09-13 Thread Felipe Sateler
On 13/09/10 07:52, Fabian Greffrath wrote: * I will no longer offer my help with issues that could be solved using either short-form dh or CDBS - except when CDBS is already used. But I still fail to understand this point. If for example a package using short-form dh7 in debian/rules needs

Re: xvidcore broken - ok to use CDBS?

2010-09-13 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 01:52:05PM +0200, Fabian Greffrath wrote: Although I have not been asked directly, I feel free to respond. sure :-) Am 13.09.2010 13:04, schrieb Jonas Smedegaard: * I will no longer offer my help with issues that could be solved using either short-form dh or CDBS -

Re: xvidcore broken - ok to use CDBS?

2010-09-13 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 07:58:58AM -0400, Felipe Sateler wrote: On 13/09/10 07:52, Fabian Greffrath wrote: * I will no longer offer my help with issues that could be solved using either short-form dh or CDBS - except when CDBS is already used. But I still fail to understand this point. If

Re: xvidcore broken - ok to use CDBS?

2010-09-13 Thread Fabian Greffrath
Am 13.09.2010 14:29, schrieb Jonas Smedegaard: Could someone perhaps suggest me a better way of expressing this standpoint of mine, to avoid similar misunderstanding another time in another context? To bring this discussion to an end, I think Felipe's mail (which arrived just some 5 minutes

Re: xvidcore broken - ok to use CDBS?

2010-09-13 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 02:44:38PM +0200, Fabian Greffrath wrote: Am 13.09.2010 14:29, schrieb Jonas Smedegaard: Could someone perhaps suggest me a better way of expressing this standpoint of mine, to avoid similar misunderstanding another time in another context? To bring this discussion to

Re: xvidcore broken - ok to use CDBS?

2010-09-13 Thread Alessio Treglia
On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 1:04 PM, Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk wrote:  * I want to help where I can and where my help is welcome.  * I cannot help with issues directly tied to short-form dh, since I am  not familiar with this technique.  * I will no longer offer my help with issues that could

Re: xvidcore broken - ok to use CDBS?

2010-09-13 Thread Andres Mejia
On Monday 13 September 2010 08:35:34 Jonas Smedegaard wrote: On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 07:58:58AM -0400, Felipe Sateler wrote: On 13/09/10 07:52, Fabian Greffrath wrote: * I will no longer offer my help with issues that could be solved using either short-form dh or CDBS - except when CDBS is

Re: xvidcore broken - ok to use CDBS?

2010-09-12 Thread Fabian Greffrath
Am Samstag, den 11.09.2010, 14:19 +0200 schrieb Jonas Smedegaard: Would anyone mind that I fix it and ensure this kind of breakage can't happen again, using CDBS? Eiter the patch needs to be regenerated or autoconf needs to be run during every build to fix this issue. Please stop pretending

Re: xvidcore broken - ok to use CDBS?

2010-09-11 Thread Alessio Treglia
On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 2:19 PM, Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk wrote: Would anyone mind that I fix it and ensure this kind of breakage can't happen again, using CDBS? Could we solve these issue by using dh-autoreconf? -- Alessio Treglia ales...@debian.org Debian Ubuntu Developer |

Re: xvidcore broken - ok to use CDBS?

2010-09-11 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 03:18:50PM +0200, Alessio Treglia wrote: On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 2:19 PM, Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk wrote: Would anyone mind that I fix it and ensure this kind of breakage can't happen again, using CDBS? Could we solve these issue by using dh-autoreconf? Well,

Re: xvidcore broken - ok to use CDBS?

2010-09-11 Thread Andres Mejia
On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 9:51 AM, Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk wrote: On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 03:18:50PM +0200, Alessio Treglia wrote: On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 2:19 PM, Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk wrote: Would anyone mind that I fix it and ensure this kind of breakage can't happen again,

Re: xvidcore broken - ok to use CDBS?

2010-09-11 Thread Andres Mejia
On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 2:36 PM, Andres Mejia mcita...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 9:51 AM, Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk wrote: On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 03:18:50PM +0200, Alessio Treglia wrote: On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 2:19 PM, Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk wrote: Would anyone