Bug#774430: systemd: service makes as not reloadable

2015-05-08 Thread Christian Kujau
I'm experience the same, also with syslog-ng on a Debian/Jessie system (powerpc, upgraded from Debian/Wheezy not too long ago): # dpkg-query --status syslog-ng-core systemd | egrep ^Package\|^Version Package: syslog-ng-core Version: 3.5.6-2+b1 Package: systemd Version: 215-17 # systemctl -p

Re: Proposal: enable stateless persistant network interface names

2015-05-08 Thread Martin Pitt
Martin Pitt [2015-05-08 7:59 +0200]: Details about [mac] --- [...] * It requires a writable /etc/udev/rules.d/ for persistantly storing the assignment. We don't want/have that with system-image (touch/snappy). Sorry, these are Ubuntu specific terms, forgot to

Re: Proposal: enable stateless persistant network interface names

2015-05-08 Thread Martin Pitt
Hello Konstantin, Konstantin Khomoutov [2015-05-08 13:08 +0300]: Is it possible to provide a tool (a shell script?) that would print out the new would-be name of the interface provided by the user so that it would be possible to migrate remote systems only accessible via SSH? The closest

Re: Proposal: enable stateless persistant network interface names

2015-05-08 Thread Konstantin Khomoutov
On Fri, 8 May 2015 00:33:58 -0700 Josh Triplett j...@joshtriplett.org wrote: I propose to retire [mac], i. e. drop /lib/udev/rules.d/75-persistent-net-generator.rules and enable [ifnames] by default. [...] Having spent a non-trivial amount of time fighting persistent-net.rules on various

Processed: found 775458 215-17

2015-05-08 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Processing commands for cont...@bugs.debian.org: # problem also present in jessie found 775458 215-17 Bug #775458 [systemd] systemd: don't start services every few ms if condition fails Marked as found in versions systemd/215-17. thanks Stopping processing here. Please contact me if you need

Re: Proposal: enable stateless persistant network interface names

2015-05-08 Thread Bjørn Mork
Martin Pitt mp...@debian.org writes: - [ifnames] For about two years (since 197) upstream's udev has a builtin persistant name generator which checks firmware/BIOS provided index numbers or slot names (like biosdevname), falls back to slot names (PCI numbers, Note that this makes

Processed: Re: [Pkg-clamav-devel] Bug#775112: systemd: repeatedly tries to start clamav

2015-05-08 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Processing control commands: found 775458 219-8 Bug #775458 [systemd] systemd: don't start services every few ms if condition fails Ignoring request to alter found versions of bug #775458 to the same values previously set -- 775458: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=775458

Processed: Re: [Pkg-clamav-devel] Bug#775112: systemd: repeatedly tries to start clamav

2015-05-08 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Processing control commands: found 775458 219-8 Bug #775458 [systemd] systemd: don't start services every few ms if condition fails Marked as found in versions systemd/219-8. -- 775112: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=775112 775458:

Bug#760923: halt no longer powers off the machine

2015-05-08 Thread Jan Niehusmann
Hi, just my opinion, of course, but please let me add: - changing finger memory is difficult, so I keep entering 'halt' instead of 'poweroff' occasionally - if one doesn't notice the error, this will waste electricity - if it happens on a notebook just before putting it into a bag, one

Bug#780235: man init brings up systemd(8) despite /sbin/init coming from sysvinit-core

2015-05-08 Thread Michael Biebl
Control: tags -1 - moreinfo unreproducible Control: reassign -1 man-db Am 08.04.2015 um 12:13 schrieb Michael Biebl: Control: tags -1 moreinfo unreproducible Am 10.03.2015 um 23:59 schrieb Samuel Bronson: Package: systemd Version: 215-12 Severity: important File:

Processed: Re: Bug#780235: man init brings up systemd(8) despite /sbin/init coming from sysvinit-core

2015-05-08 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Processing control commands: tags -1 - moreinfo unreproducible Bug #780235 [systemd] man init brings up systemd(8) despite /sbin/init coming from sysvinit-core Removed tag(s) unreproducible and moreinfo. reassign -1 man-db Bug #780235 [systemd] man init brings up systemd(8) despite /sbin/init

Re: Proposal: enable stateless persistant network interface names

2015-05-08 Thread Matthias Urlichs
Hi, Karsten Merker: while this probably works resonably well for (semi-)fixed devices like onboard-NICs and PCI/PCIe cards, it results in a completely unsuitable behaviour with pluggable devices such as USB network adapters. Why? I can envision two likely scenarios for using a USB adapter.

Re: Proposal: enable stateless persistant network interface names

2015-05-08 Thread Joel Wirāmu Pauling
Just my 0.02$ against using the BIOS method. I have and Do see inconsistent bios vendor naming used from release to release of their Firmware updates. I have had to fix HP Propliants servers numerous time due to a firmware update changing the number and/or order of SATA ports, PCI and other

Re: Proposal: enable stateless persistant network interface names

2015-05-08 Thread josh
On Fri, May 08, 2015 at 09:06:25PM +0200, Karsten Merker wrote: On Fri, May 08, 2015 at 10:50:30AM -0700, Josh Triplett wrote: Karsten Merker wrote: while this probably works resonably well for (semi-)fixed devices like onboard-NICs and PCI/PCIe cards, it results in a completely

Re: Proposal: enable stateless persistant network interface names

2015-05-08 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le vendredi 08 mai 2015 à 07:59 +0200, Martin Pitt a écrit : Proposal I propose to retire [mac], i. e. drop /lib/udev/rules.d/75-persistent-net-generator.rules and enable [ifnames] by default. Yes, yes, yes, please. Let’s get rid of that horrible thing. -- .''`. Josselin

Re: base-installer: NTP daemon should be installed on any system missing an RTC

2015-05-08 Thread Michael Biebl
On Sun, 03 May 2015 17:23:30 +0100 Ben Hutchings b...@decadent.org.uk wrote: Control: reassign -1 clock-setup Control: retitle -1 Missing support for systems without battery-backed RTC On Sun, 2015-05-03 at 17:40 +0200, Geert Stappers wrote: Debian installations on hardware with no

Re: base-installer: NTP daemon should be installed on any system missing an RTC

2015-05-08 Thread Michael Biebl
Am 09.05.2015 um 03:32 schrieb Michael Biebl: On Sun, 03 May 2015 17:23:30 +0100 Ben Hutchings b...@decadent.org.uk 1. Install/enable NTP client 2. Disable hwclock-save.service See below for the changes in systemd 3. Disable e2fsck time check What exactly do you mean here? I think these

Re: base-installer: NTP daemon should be installed on any system missing an RTC

2015-05-08 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Sat, 2015-05-09 at 03:38 +0200, Michael Biebl wrote: Am 09.05.2015 um 03:32 schrieb Michael Biebl: On Sun, 03 May 2015 17:23:30 +0100 Ben Hutchings b...@decadent.org.uk 1. Install/enable NTP client 2. Disable hwclock-save.service See below for the changes in systemd 3. Disable

Re: base-installer: NTP daemon should be installed on any system missing an RTC

2015-05-08 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Sat, 2015-05-09 at 03:32 +0200, Michael Biebl wrote: On Sun, 03 May 2015 17:23:30 +0100 Ben Hutchings b...@decadent.org.uk wrote: Control: reassign -1 clock-setup Control: retitle -1 Missing support for systems without battery-backed RTC On Sun, 2015-05-03 at 17:40 +0200, Geert

Bug#784604: systemd: can't remove systemd unless it is correctly running

2015-05-08 Thread Brian May
On Fri, 8 May 2015 at 21:34 Michael Biebl bi...@debian.org wrote: I think the failure on uninstallation is just a red herring or just an aspect of a bigger issue, i.e. your systemd installation is not fully functional, most likely due to be run under OpenVZ (btw, it would have been helpful to

Bug#784604: systemd: can't remove systemd unless it is correctly running

2015-05-08 Thread Michael Biebl
Am 08.05.2015 um 14:19 schrieb Brian May: On Fri, 8 May 2015 at 21:34 Michael Biebl bi...@debian.org wrote: I think the failure on uninstallation is just a red herring or just an aspect of a bigger issue, i.e. your systemd installation is not fully functional, most likely due to be run under

Bug#784604: systemd: can't remove systemd unless it is correctly running

2015-05-08 Thread Michael Biebl
Am 08.05.2015 um 05:22 schrieb Brian May: On Thu, 7 May 2015 at 22:30 Michael Biebl bi...@debian.org wrote: So, systemd.postinst seems to fail in the trigger We do not call systemctl uncondionally here: _systemctl() { if [ -d /run/systemd/system ]; then systemctl $@ fi }

Bug#784604: systemd: can't remove systemd unless it is correctly running

2015-05-08 Thread Michael Biebl
Am 08.05.2015 um 13:34 schrieb Michael Biebl: Which kernel version is that? Does it satisfy all requirements as listed in /usr/share/doc/systemd/README.gz? I assume, you can reproduce the uninstallation failure on real iron or can *not* reproduce... -- Why is it that all of the