Re: containing plasmoid crashes

2009-07-26 Thread Bogdan Bivolaru
Hello, Well, I haven't really thought about a how-to before writing that mail... I was expecting it to work just as for catching crashes with Dr. Krash. But it turns out that there is a solution on Plasma wishlist: [Plasma] Plasmoids as separate processes So I voted for it and I hope someone

Re: containing plasmoid crashes

2009-07-26 Thread Bogdan Bivolaru
Oh, well, there is an intense debate on how to accomplish this... http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=83t=45255start=30 Oh everyone brings their pet issue to the table: performance issues, ease of development, stability. I hope you plasma hackers will find the middle ground to keep everyone

Re: containing plasmoid crashes

2009-07-26 Thread Marco Martin
On 7/26/09, Bogdan Bivolaru bogdan.bivol...@gmail.com wrote: Oh, well, there is an intense debate on how to accomplish this... http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=83t=45255start=30 Oh everyone brings their pet issue to the table: performance issues, ease of development, stability. I hope you

Re: [PATCH] BUG 199107 make the popup dialog of group hide automatically on taskbar

2009-07-26 Thread 潘卫平(Peter Pan)
潘卫平(Peter Pan) 写道: Aaron J. Seigo 写道: On Thursday 16 July 2009, 潘卫平(Peter Pan) wrote: For tooltips, I agree that they are less important than the popup dialog, so I made another patch to reject showing tooltips when a popup dialog is showing. looks good :) Thanks for your comments.

Re: Review Request: Window runner to switch windows and desktops

2009-07-26 Thread Martin Gräßlin
--- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: http://reviewboard.kde.org/r/1114/ --- (Updated 2009-07-26 10:21:46.864061) Review request for Plasma. Changes

Re: containing plasmoid crashes

2009-07-26 Thread Bogdan Bivolaru
Wow! Well, sounds like you've got a tough job to do, but I'm sure you'll find a way to solve this issue, as always. May you have a happy hacking and a nice day! Cheers, Bogdan On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 11:07 AM, Marco Martin notm...@gmail.com wrote: On 7/26/09, Bogdan Bivolaru

Re: containing plasmoid crashes

2009-07-26 Thread David Baron
A similar problem has seemingly been solved, by Google. Since google's browser is opensource, one might take a look. Every one of those tabs, plugin processes, etc., is a separate process, shows up on top as such. I have an upload going on now, apparently in a chrome process initiated

Re: panels and popups sliding effect

2009-07-26 Thread Martin Gräßlin
Am Sonntag 26 Juli 2009 12:55:55 schrieb Marco Martin: On Saturday 25 July 2009, Aaron J. Seigo wrote: On Friday 24 July 2009, Marco Martin wrote: what about a small library (just statics probably) in workspace to deal with this stuff? KWindowSystemExtra? the code needs to be

Re: panels and popups sliding effect

2009-07-26 Thread Marco Martin
On Sunday 26 July 2009, Martin Gräßlin wrote: Am Sonntag 26 Juli 2009 12:55:55 schrieb Marco Martin: On Saturday 25 July 2009, Aaron J. Seigo wrote: On Friday 24 July 2009, Marco Martin wrote: what about a small library (just statics probably) in workspace to deal with this stuff?

Re: panels and popups sliding effect

2009-07-26 Thread Marco Martin
On Sunday 26 July 2009, Marco Martin wrote: On Saturday 25 July 2009, Aaron J. Seigo wrote: On Friday 24 July 2009, Marco Martin wrote: what about a small library (just statics probably) in workspace to deal with this stuff? KWindowSystemExtra? the code needs to be accessible from

Re: Review Request: Window runner to switch windows and desktops

2009-07-26 Thread Martin Gräßlin
--- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: http://reviewboard.kde.org/r/1114/ --- (Updated 2009-07-26 12:34:22.065536) Review request for Plasma. Changes

Re: Review Request: Window runner to switch windows and desktops

2009-07-26 Thread Ryan Bitanga
--- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: http://reviewboard.kde.org/r/1114/#review1788 --- trunk/KDE/kdebase/workspace/plasma/runners/windows/windowsrunner.cpp

Re: Review Request: Window runner to switch windows and desktops

2009-07-26 Thread Martin Gräßlin
On 2009-07-26 15:44:49, Ryan Bitanga wrote: trunk/KDE/kdebase/workspace/plasma/runners/windows/windowsrunner.cpp, line 129 http://reviewboard.kde.org/r/1114/diff/4/?file=9093#file9093line129 One of the reasons I worked on multiple action support for KRunner in 4.2 was so that

Re: Prospective costs of the 3rd Plasma meeting (Tokamak3) - part 2

2009-07-26 Thread Ana Cecília Martins Barbosa
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Re: Prospective costs of the 3rd Plasma meeting (Tokamak3) - part 2

2009-07-26 Thread Mario Fux
Am Sonntag, 26. Juli 2009 schrieb Artur Souza (MoRpHeUz): Good morning On Thursday 23 July 2009, 15:42 Ivan Čukić wrote: Ana Cecília Martins Barbosa: anaceciliamb at gmail.com Just came to my mind that she'll also need an invitation letter. I don't need as I have double citizenship and I

Re: containing plasmoid crashes

2009-07-26 Thread Chani
Example of their success: Clicking a link in kmail, for example, will spawn that as a tab in an existing chrome browser if one is running. Caveat--if one died and is still an existing process, one must kill it before chrome will work correctly. Beta. that's got nothing to do with separate

Problems with DataEngine in Python

2009-07-26 Thread John Hobbs
Hello, I've been trying to write my first Plasmoid in python, and I've been stuck on using the DataEngines [1]. I'm working off of the microblog applet [2] to try and understand how to interact with that engine. My problem comes when I try to get a service from my engine. I'm getting an error:

Re: panels and popups sliding effect

2009-07-26 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Sunday 26 July 2009, Marco Martin wrote: i'm really on the fence on where to put this and how to call it. Becasue if we put other stuff like that like the taskbar thumbnails and the glow effect they wouldn't have much to do with animation, and i'm kinda wondering if plasma is the right

Re: Review Request: Window runner to switch windows and desktops

2009-07-26 Thread Aaron Seigo
On 2009-07-26 15:44:49, Ryan Bitanga wrote: trunk/KDE/kdebase/workspace/plasma/runners/windows/windowsrunner.cpp, line 129 http://reviewboard.kde.org/r/1114/diff/4/?file=9093#file9093line129 One of the reasons I worked on multiple action support for KRunner in 4.2 was so that

Re: panels and popups sliding effect

2009-07-26 Thread Marco Martin
On Sunday 26 July 2009, Aaron J. Seigo wrote: On Sunday 26 July 2009, Marco Martin wrote: i'm really on the fence on where to put this and how to call it. Becasue if we put other stuff like that like the taskbar thumbnails and the glow effect they wouldn't have much to do with animation,

Re: Review Request: Window runner to switch windows and desktops

2009-07-26 Thread Aaron Seigo
--- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: http://reviewboard.kde.org/r/1114/#review1792 --- my only comment is that it would be nice if one could type close kop

Re: containing plasmoid crashes

2009-07-26 Thread David Baron
On Sunday 26 July 2009 21:20:55 Chani wrote: Example of their success: Clicking a link in kmail, for example, will spawn that as a tab in an existing chrome browser if one is running. Caveat--if one died and is still an existing process, one must kill it before chrome will work correctly.

Re: Review Request: Window runner to switch windows and desktops

2009-07-26 Thread Aaron Seigo
--- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: http://reviewboard.kde.org/r/1114/#review1793 --- ok, now the implementation review part of things :) one thing that

Re: containing plasmoid crashes

2009-07-26 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Sunday 26 July 2009, David Baron wrote: A similar problem has seemingly been solved, by Google. Since google's browser is opensource, one might take a look. chrome solves a completely different problem. it displays a completely _different_ canvas (in this case, an html one) in each

Re: containing plasmoid crashes

2009-07-26 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Sunday 26 July 2009, David Baron wrote: Do not the various interperators or VMs need be loaded in memory to service their plasmoids so we need to: * have full ecma script bindings available * promote use of ecma script over other options * use ruby/python only as really needed (e.g access

Re: containing plasmoid crashes

2009-07-26 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Sunday 26 July 2009, Bogdan Bivolaru wrote: [Plasma] Plasmoids as separate processes this will not be implemented. see my other replies in this thread as to why. -- Aaron J. Seigo humru othro a kohnu se GPG Fingerprint: 8B8B 2209 0C6F 7C47 B1EA EE75 D6B7 2EB1 A7F1 DB43 KDE core developer

Re: Review Request: Window runner to switch windows and desktops

2009-07-26 Thread Martin Gräßlin
On 2009-07-26 19:19:43, Aaron Seigo wrote: ok, now the implementation review part of things :) one thing that is useful to observe about this is that it takes a more memory intensive approach, storing the individual icons, window info and winid of all available windows, to make

Plasmate Status

2009-07-26 Thread Shantanu Tushar Jha
So, another 2 weeks, and here comes the Plasmate status report :) As the CHANGELOG says, we have 1. Fixed the problem with the project name not taking input. (KRestrictedLine issue) 2. Plasmate remembers positioning of the docks, and reloads on startup. 3. Options to select the scripting

Re: Prospective costs of the 3rd Plasma meeting (Tokamak3) - part 2

2009-07-26 Thread Sebastian Kügler
On Sunday 26 July 2009 19:06:51 Mario Fux wrote: Am Sonntag, 26. Juli 2009 schrieb Artur Souza (MoRpHeUz): On Thursday 23 July 2009, 15:42 Ivan Čukić wrote: Ana Cecília Martins Barbosa: anaceciliamb at gmail.com Just came to my mind that she'll also need an invitation letter. I don't

Re: containing plasmoid crashes

2009-07-26 Thread Chani
On July 26, 2009 12:10:25 David Baron wrote: On Sunday 26 July 2009 21:20:55 Chani wrote: Example of their success: Clicking a link in kmail, for example, will spawn that as a tab in an existing chrome browser if one is running. Caveat--if one died and is still an existing process, one

Re: containing plasmoid crashes

2009-07-26 Thread Artur Souza (MoRpHeUz)
On Sunday 26 July 2009, 16:24 Aaron J. Seigo wrote: the real solution is to use scripting languages and make sure the c++ plugins are absolutely solid. +1 here. It's the sanest (does this word exist in english :) ?) way to do this stuff. Cheers :)

Re: Review Request: Fix layout problems in the pager applet

2009-07-26 Thread Aaron Seigo
--- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: http://reviewboard.kde.org/r/1124/#review1799 --- Ship it! ok, this looks safe enough .. pls commit this to trunk,

Re: Review Request: Fix layout problems in the pager applet

2009-07-26 Thread Anthony Bryant
On 2009-07-27 00:08:35, Aaron Seigo wrote: ok, this looks safe enough .. pls commit this to trunk, let's test it thoroughly there, and then we can backport it if/when no problems arise. Thanks! I don't actually have an svn account... Could you commit it for me? - Anthony

Re: Review Request: Fix layout problems in the pager applet

2009-07-26 Thread Aaron Seigo
On 2009-07-27 00:08:35, Aaron Seigo wrote: ok, this looks safe enough .. pls commit this to trunk, let's test it thoroughly there, and then we can backport it if/when no problems arise. Anthony Bryant wrote: Thanks! I don't actually have an svn account... Could you commit it for

Re: Plasma::Package::registerPackage stops working?

2009-07-26 Thread Dong Tiger
2009/7/25 Aaron J. Seigo ase...@kde.org On Friday 24 July 2009, Dong Tiger wrote: After removing the line of X-KDE-ParentApp=, it appears in the dialog. aha! and looking at the code in libplasma, the reason for that is fairly obvious. i'll be committing (and backporting) a fix for this

Re: Review Request: Allow runners to do quick prepare and teardown for match sessions

2009-07-26 Thread Artur de Souza (MoRpHeUz)
--- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: http://reviewboard.kde.org/r/1133/#review1803 --- The idea seems pretty nice. I've played a little bit with runners and

Re: Review Request: Fix layout problems in the pager applet

2009-07-26 Thread Anthony Bryant
On 2009-07-27 00:35:33, Aaron Seigo wrote: just found a small problem when doing some more testing before commit: when it's in a non horiz/vert form factor (e.g. planar, aka the desktop) the size of the desktop bits don't scale down consistently to fit the width. you can test this

Re: zui, windows, desktops

2009-07-26 Thread Chani
so, me and aaron discussed this last week, and then I promptly forgot all about writing any of it down. ;) it makes a lot more sense when you see the mockups... I'll try and re-explain it in my own words, hopefully it'll be clearer when seen from 1 POV :) basically, the idea is to replace

Re: Prospective costs of the 3rd Plasma meeting (Tokamak3) - part 2

2009-07-26 Thread Ana Cecília Martins Barbosa
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