Hi all,
kcontrol janitor has found another module to remove: screensaver.
I just had a look at it whether there is anything which could be reused once
we have a new locker without XScreenSaver support. After all there are the
grace timeout settings. But after looking at it, I think it's a
On Friday 18 October 2013 14:29:23 Marco Martin wrote:
On Thursday 17 October 2013 19:51:24 Martin Graesslin wrote:
Hi all,
and another KCM, but for this one I'm not sure whether it still has
something useful: kcontrol/workspaceoptions
It offers the following features:
* switch
On Friday 18 October 2013 17:37:10 Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
On Friday, October 18, 2013 13:03:19 Martin Graesslin wrote:
I just had a look at it whether there is anything which could be reused
once we have a new locker without XScreenSaver support.
we already have a locker which can have
Hi all,
the KCM for smartcards in kcontrol/smartcard got never ported to KDE4. I think
after five years and 12 releases of coma it's time to perform active euthanasia
as I consider it as unlikely that someone will come and revive by porting from
kdelibs3 to frameworks 5 directly.
So same game
Hi all,
and another KCM, but for this one I'm not sure whether it still has something
useful: kcontrol/workspaceoptions
It offers the following features:
* switch between workspace type Desktop and Netbook
* configure dashboard to show Desktop widgets or Show an independent widget
set
*
Hi all,
I hope we all agree that for Plasma2 kscreen is our solution for multiple
monitors. Because of that I intend to delete the old configuration module and
kded found in kcontrol/randr from our master branch.
I will do so by Monday if nobody objects. If someone objects he/she is invited
On Tuesday 24 September 2013 18:04:55 Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
* Qt5 doesn't seem to have the API we need to do our xembed tricks
anymore,
especially QX11EmbedContainer is gone.
it’s missing more than gone; i’ve heard several times that someone or
another was working on it.
which
On Tuesday 24 September 2013 20:48:23 Kevin Krammer wrote:
On Tuesday, 2013-09-24, Sebastian Kügler wrote:
* Qt5 doesn't seem to have the API we need to do our xembed tricks
anymore,
especially QX11EmbedContainer is gone. If we even get it to work under
X11, it seems entirely
On Monday 23 September 2013 19:58:08 Martin Graesslin wrote:
Switch tasks:
* merge the frameworks branch into master
Martin volunteered to do this, planned for next Monday.
blocked by pre-switch task
I just tried to merge master into frameworks-scratch but gave up due to
changes
On Monday 16 September 2013 16:35:58 Sebastian Kügler wrote:
* the CMakeLists.txt needs to output a usefully verbose error message when
it only finds kdelibs 4.x and not kf5.
* we need to test with the latest version of kdesrc-build and make it do
the right thing by choosing the 4.11
On Thursday 12 September 2013 15:51:55 Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
On Thursday, September 12, 2013 15:26:50 Marco Martin wrote:
in general to c++ it's maybe slightly clunkier, since one has to call
model-
data(role) and then try to convert the qvariant.
(perhaps it may have some api to ease
On Tuesday 27 August 2013 19:56:16 Heena Mahour wrote:
but that is also giving following errors :
http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=C5qePwbt
this looks like some includes are missing. KDE_VERSION_STRING is deprecated
AFAIK but still available (used in KWin). Just add:
#include kdeversion.h
On Wednesday 28 August 2013 16:35:39 Heena Mahour wrote:
Hi ,
I am getting Unknown CMake command macro_add_compile_flags. in kioclient
cmake under kf5 .
I found out that it is not to be used under kf5 as
macro_optional_find_package is replaced to find_package in a recent commit
Could you
On Wednesday 21 August 2013 19:36:21 Daniel Nicoletti wrote:
2013/8/21 Sebastian Kügler se...@kde.org:
On Wednesday, August 21, 2013 17:12:10 Daniel Nicoletti wrote:
2013/8/21 Martin Graesslin mgraess...@kde.org:
Yes I noticed that for example you still talk about KDE as software
On Thursday 22 August 2013 14:23:57 Kevin Ottens wrote:
On Thursday 22 August 2013 13:39:39 Ivan Čukić wrote:
Well, I can add one more. They use variadic templates which are not in
the
list of C++11 features which can be used unconditionally in
plasma-framework. Can be spared if you
On Thursday 22 August 2013 20:36:24 Giorgos Tsiapaliokas wrote:
Hello,
On 21 August 2013 12:49, Marco Martin notm...@gmail.com wrote:
My vote would go for Plasma.
+1, just Plasma without KDE.
On 21 August 2013 21:38, Martin Graesslin mgraess...@kde.org wrote:
another idea: let's
On Wednesday 21 August 2013 20:38:05 Martin Graesslin wrote:
On Monday 19 August 2013 21:56:35 Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
Other proposals, ideas, tweaks to the above most welcome, but let’s try to
come to a consensus on this matter before the end of this month.
another idea: let's drop
On Wednesday 21 August 2013 11:29:52 Daniel Nicoletti wrote:
My 2c,
On KDE 4 aka KDE SC 4, plasma was always just plasma,
no user says I'm using the plasma shell (as there isn't another
KDE option).
this might change. Consider Razor/LXDE joining the KDE umbrella. What then?
From one day to
On Wednesday 21 August 2013 13:52:06 Daniel Nicoletti wrote:
2013/8/21 Martin Graesslin mgraess...@kde.org:
On Wednesday 21 August 2013 11:29:52 Daniel Nicoletti wrote:
My 2c,
On KDE 4 aka KDE SC 4, plasma was always just plasma,
no user says I'm using the plasma shell (as there isn't
On Monday 19 August 2013 21:56:35 Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
Other proposals, ideas, tweaks to the above most welcome, but let’s try to
come to a consensus on this matter before the end of this month.
another idea: let's drop the version number completely and only use it
internally (bugtracker,
:39 AM, Martin Graesslin mgraess...@kde.org
wrote:
On Tuesday 20 August 2013 10:21:21 Bhushan Shah wrote:
On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 12:25 AM, Martin Graesslin
mgraess...@kde.org
wrote:
I'm pretty sure that some dev package is missing and that they are
available on Ubuntu otherwise
On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 11:52 AM, Martin Graesslin mgraess...@kde.org
wrote:
On Tuesday 20 August 2013 11:36:58 Bhushan Shah wrote:
Hello,
Even I have tried with complete re installation of KUbuntu and fresh
clone of the kde-workspace, but something is still wrong. Here is what
I do
On Tuesday 20 August 2013 12:23:50 Bhushan Shah wrote:
On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 12:23 PM, Martin Graesslin mgraess...@kde.org
wrote:
wait, did you apply the patch from the review request I posted yesterday?
Because that requires adjustments in kde-workspace, too.
Yes! I have applied patch
On Tuesday 20 August 2013 09:56:59 Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
one tempting idea is to promote “Plasma Active” up as the name used for all
the workspaces ...
I would vote against Plasma Active as that might end up at the users (and
media and they can get it wrong big times) as we drop the desktop
On Monday 19 August 2013 07:40:11 Kevin Ottens wrote:
On Sunday 18 August 2013 09:50:48 Bhushan Shah wrote:
Hello,
On Sat, Aug 17, 2013 at 11:55 PM, Giorgos Tsiapaliokas
terie...@gmail.com wrote:
show us the cmake errors :)
http://paste.kde.org/pd1e6e267/
I have XCB
On Monday 19 August 2013 22:38:09 Bhushan Shah wrote:
Hello,
I am using project-neon5 on KUbuntu 13.04. I have every packages
installed on my computer which is required to build. I can not build
kwin, kstyles and powermanagement data engine so I have to disable it
for building
On Monday 19 August 2013 20:55:49 Martin Graesslin wrote:
On Monday 19 August 2013 22:38:09 Bhushan Shah wrote:
Hello,
I am using project-neon5 on KUbuntu 13.04. I have every packages
installed on my computer which is required to build. I can not build
kwin, kstyles and powermanagement
On Monday 19 August 2013 21:56:35 Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
3. ‘2’ ... why “two” if this is version 5? well, libplasma is actually going
to be version 6 iirc, so it isn’t the library. i also am not a big believer
in branding after version numbers. neither are any of our proprietary
competitors who
On Tuesday 20 August 2013 10:21:21 Bhushan Shah wrote:
On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 12:25 AM, Martin Graesslin mgraess...@kde.org
wrote:
I'm pretty sure that some dev package is missing and that they are
available on Ubuntu otherwise project-neon could not compile 4.11 ;-)
So only thing I am
On Friday 16 August 2013 14:10:46 Bhushan Shah wrote:
Hello,
I have installed the project-neon5-session in my KUbuntu installation and
now want to build frameworks-scratch branch of the kde-workspace.
What are the next steps? Please someone give me guide to build it.
it's not really
On Wednesday 14 August 2013 12:36:18 Bhushan Shah wrote:
Hello,
I want to compile QT 5.2 for compiling kde-framework 5, So want to ask if I
can ignore some submodules to speedup compiling process? Like qt multimedia
package etc?
depending on your distribution there might be daily built
Hi all,
to help me with working on KWindowEffects I decided to write a small qml plugin
which exports all the methods of KWindowEffects to qml.
I just pushed this plugin to a personal scratch repository:
kde:scratch/graesslin/kwindoweffectsplugin [1]
It contains an example.qml which can be
Hi all,
on special request by Eike I looked into porting libtaskmanager to Qt5/KF5.
And after a surprisingly easy port I just pushed to frameworks-scratch branch
a commit which enables building of libtaskmanager again.
As a side effect I also had to port ksysguard/processcore.
Obviously I
On Monday 29 July 2013 08:14:20 Heena Mahour wrote:
I did heena@heena-Aspire-5750:~/plasma-framework$ plasma-shell
plasma-shell: symbol lookup error:
/home/heena/kf5/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libKDE4Support.so.5: undefined symbol:
kde_kiosk_admin
How to exactly test the plasma2 plasmoid (as
On Monday 29 July 2013 01:11:52 Sebastian Kügler wrote:
Hi all,
Let's do our weekly Plasma hangout at 12.00 Europe/Amsterdam (and most of
Europe, except Greece).
If you'd like to join in, show up in #plasma right before, and shout my
name.
Should we start having a public part (on air)
On Friday 19 July 2013 21:50:18 Nowardev-Team wrote:
i mean qdbus org.kde.klipper /klipper
org.kde.klipper.klipper.setClipboardContents text to paste
get the stuff in klipper
qdbus org.kde.klipper /klipper
org.kde.klipper.klipper.getClipboardContents
note: this only works in case
On Saturday 22 June 2013 16:38:56 Ivan Čukić wrote:
Hi all,
Following the previous discussions on k-c-d where it was concluded that the
workspace-related code (as opposed to the libs) can use more modern c++
features as long as those are not introduced after gcc 4.5, I'd like to ask
whether
On Friday 21 June 2013 18:17:19 Àlex Fiestas wrote:
On Friday 21 June 2013 17:41:57 Ivan Čukić wrote:
What I did was:
-Detect if any keyboard was present
-Detect Mouse/touchpad
you have a Qt wrapper of udev in kdelibs/solid.
Great to know, will try it out later. Though
On Wednesday 12 June 2013 10:39:17 Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
i seriously think most people[1] who don't like animations should get over
it. i can't imagine how they survive in the real world where everything is
animated
I completely agree with everything Aaron wrote but just want to point out that
On Tuesday 28 May 2013 14:25:08 Thomas Pfeiffer wrote:
On 28.05.2013 14:17, Luiz Romário Santana Rios wrote:
2013/5/28 Thomas Pfeiffer colo...@autistici.org:
If developers start actively searching for very specific brainstorm
topics,
the whole point of moving there would be moot.
The
On Monday 27 May 2013 13:25:35 Mario Fux KDE ML wrote:
Do you plan as well to remove the option to send bugs with severity
wishlist on bugs.kde.org (and probably just leave it for some brainstorm
moderators). Would be two steps less for wishlist submitters and the above
message just for the
On Monday 27 May 2013 14:48:52 Thomas Pfeiffer wrote:
On 27.05.2013 14:03, Martin Graesslin wrote:
On Monday 27 May 2013 13:25:35 Mario Fux KDE ML wrote:
Do you plan as well to remove the option to send bugs with severity
wishlist on bugs.kde.org (and probably just leave it for some
Hi all,
this is probably a controversial proposal: Let's disable bug reporting for
Plasma until the current situation is improved.
Reason: the bugtracker in it's current state gets flooded by new incoming
reports and we are not able to get the water out of our cellar as long as new
water is
On Sunday 26 May 2013 13:26:45 Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
On Sunday, May 26, 2013 12:05:25 Martin Graesslin wrote:
this is probably a controversial proposal: Let's disable bug reporting for
Plasma until the current situation is improved.
..
Opinions?
I would expect this to piss off users
On Sunday 26 May 2013 18:07:14 Thomas Pfeiffer wrote:
On Sunday 26 May 2013 00:05:56 Marco Martin wrote:
On Saturday 25 May 2013 14:32:29 Martin Graesslin wrote:
And this is clearly the case let's work around something we don't want
to
fix. Switches are a clear improvement over
Hi all,
based on yesterdays discussion with Aaron about the bugtracker I want to
provide a few suggestions on how we can start to clean up the bugtracker and
get it into a workable state again.
My first suggestion is to move from now on all wishes to
brainstorm.forum.kde.org. Bugzilla is
Hi all,
Plasma has many open crash reports for outdated versions [1]. I would suggest
to close them all as:
a) Stack traces most likely do not match any more
b) It's quite likely that it's a duplicate
c) Users can easily reopen if it's still valid with latest version
d) If it's a crash and still
On Saturday 25 May 2013 10:03:16 Luca Beltrame wrote:
That said, voting etc might be useful to do some pre-screening on feature.
Although votes are not a useful metric per se, my last experiment with
scoring Brainstorm ideas put genuinely useful ideas at top.
For me the feature of down voting
On Saturday 25 May 2013 11:13:31 Myriam Schweingruber wrote:
While I salute your idea I fear it will not work, as it needs Plasma
people to actively work on Brainstorm, and that is already not the
case on bugzilla. Moving the wishes elsewhere is just moving the
problem elsewhere.
As long as
On Saturday 25 May 2013 17:40:10 Jekyll Wu wrote:
On 2013年05月25日 15:19, Martin Graesslin wrote:
Hi all,
Plasma has many open crash reports for outdated versions [1]. I would
suggest to close them all as:
a) Stack traces most likely do not match any more
b) It's quite likely that it's
On Saturday 25 May 2013 09:14:03 Daniel Nicoletti wrote:
2013/5/25 Aaron J. Seigo ase...@kde.org:
Switches are not to be used on Desktop. For 4.11 the QML switch component
appears as a checkbox, so you really don't have a choice in the end. The
reasons are:
* consistency
* input
On Saturday 25 May 2013 14:11:57 Myriam Schweingruber wrote:
You don't care for the users? Don't release anything to the public and
keep it to yourselves! But if you release an boast about it, do your
homework, and that means handling the bug database yourself!
I don't think that the blame game
On Saturday 25 May 2013 09:43:26 Daniel Nicoletti wrote:
2013/5/25 Martin Graesslin mgraess...@kde.org:
And I would completely fail to use the switch. I have huge problems
understanding those switches and I have not seen any implementation of the
switch where I got which one is on and which
On Saturday 25 May 2013 14:47:38 Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
what we could do for the plasma ones is schedule an hour a week (or twice a
week?) and take them in batches and see if it is possible to work through
them quickly enough. if not, we can take the Big Hatchet to them all. i
don't want to do
On Saturday 25 May 2013 21:50:25 Jekyll Wu wrote:
On 2013年05月25日 20:59, Martin Graesslin wrote:
My aims are:
* get the number of bugs down without having humans looking at the reports
* reduce the number of bugs coming in
Now that plasma-desktop uses KDE_VERSION_STRING (since 4.10.3
On Saturday 25 May 2013 15:55:50 Luca Beltrame wrote:
In data sabato 25 maggio 2013 11:28:46, Martin Graesslin ha scritto:
Hello,
Of course that can only work if users are willing to participate in
brainstorm to do the voting and the selection of good reports. If that
Since you
On Wednesday 15 May 2013 16:21:28 Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
On Wednesday, May 15, 2013 15:31:16 Ivan ÄukiÄ wrote:
Welcome is nice, but again, not a real activity (link to Welcome and
similar).
If we want a meangingful default name, then I think we have to ask the user
... which brings us
Hi all,
I'm in the unlucky situation that a certain person, let's call him David E.
[1], had the great idea to demonstrate how reliable Plasmoid Sharing over the
network works.
The result:
1. every time I connect to the same network as D's notebook I get several
notifications that a new
On Saturday 04 May 2013 22:34:04 Kevin Kofler wrote:
On Friday 03 May 2013 at 17:04:44, Matthias Klumpp wrote:
@Kevin: I am only remotely following this issue, but as PackageKit
developer, I would of course like to see our project in Plasma
Workspaces as soon as possible. But I don't know
On Friday 15 March 2013 14:38:45 Martin Gräßlin wrote:
* Mageia is shipping an up to date version of Compiz (!), whether it
includes compiz-kde I couldn't figure out [8]
Looked again: it's not included. Summary: no distribution of the top ten on
distrowatch is shipping compiz KDE integration in
On Tuesday 12 March 2013 19:57:53 Ralf Jung wrote:
Hi,
file cleaning up my ~/src, I stumbled upon two .kdev4 files which can be
found in KDE git repositories (current master):
kde-runtime/plasma/kpart/kpart.kdev4
kdelibs/plasma/plasma.kdev4
Were these committed on purpose?
what
Hi all,
back in the QA discussion I proposed that we setup a list of all components of
the Plasma workspaces, find a maintainer for each of it and document all of
that.
I have finally got around to setup a draft page in my wiki namespace [1]. The
list of components is derived from source code
Hi all,
I want to suggest that we invite Razor-Qt developers to our next Workspaces
Sprint in Nuremberg.
*Why?*
At FOSDEM there was a presentation about Razor-Qt and I attended it together
with many other KDE developers. For me the most important information I took
out of that talk was that
On Saturday 16 February 2013 18:55:17 Sebastian Kügler wrote:
All good points. From my side, they're totally welcome. (I'd need to know in
time in order to make space for them during the sprint.) Are you in contact
with the developers already? Maybe in that case, you could ask if they're
On Sunday 17 February 2013 02:08:57 Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
On Saturday, February 16, 2013 16:54:03 Martin Graesslin wrote:
I wouldn't call KDE Plasma lightweight
indeed; those 1Ghz ARM cpus with 512MB of RAM running it are just *beasts*
of the modern age I tell you. ;)
razorqt may
On Saturday 09 February 2013 16:51:16 Mark wrote:
A window manager should in my opinion do just that, manage windows. It
has no business in managing global shortcut keys. Or is my logic
flawed? If so, please do correct me.
In a Wayland world the compositor is responsible for input and there is
On Thursday 07 February 2013 18:51:41 Kevin Ottens wrote:
On Thursday 7 February 2013 14:33:47 Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
this would mean work on our part in the kglobalshortcut code in kdelibs
for
frameworks 5 and would imply that we take full maintainership of this area
of things.
On Monday 21 January 2013 11:27:13 Marco Martin wrote:
so if i understood correctly if two apps register the same area, in case of
triggering both apps will be informed, right?
yes
this looks certainly like an improvement, but maybe not in a specific case..
what about there is a fullscreen
On Monday 21 January 2013 12:52:07 Marco Martin wrote:
On Monday 21 January 2013, Martin Graesslin wrote:
in QML terms, the perfect solution would be an item than knows the
geometry of the thumbnail it will be rendering, and then all of the
above problems go away.
but if that QML
On Monday 21 January 2013 12:53:21 Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
On Monday, January 21, 2013 11:03:53 Martin Gräßlin wrote:
The protocol I would suggest is:
1. Application calls D-Bus function in KWin with the following information
imo this should be a new DBus service name (e.g.
On Monday 21 January 2013 13:48:22 Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
On Monday, January 21, 2013 13:10:36 Martin Graesslin wrote:
* which edge to monitor (left/right/top/bottom)
* offset on edge
* length on edge
screen #?
very unsure as we need to have a consistent screen numbering
On Sunday 13 January 2013 19:48:48 Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
hi ..
side note 1: i've taken to refering to future releases of Plasma Worskpaces
that will use Frameworks 5 with libplasma2, Qt 5.1+ and QtQuick2 as Plasma
Workspaces 2 (PW2) inside my head. if anyone has a better idea, speak up
On Monday 24 December 2012 17:12:22 Weng Xuetian wrote:
I think some action need to be taken before the release, some possible
solutions.
1. Revert the changes of new plasma air theme, so old shadow can be used.
and try to fix all the things in KDE 4.11
Personal opinion: the change should be
On Thursday 13 December 2012 16:41:58 Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
I currently favour the second solution (making Switch a Checkbox on
desktop),
+1
Cheers
Martin
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On Monday 10 December 2012 13:51:02 Alex Fiestas wrote:
Maybe we can get some feedback from the forums ?
we have to be careful about that. From all I have seen over the last years I
think that the toolbox is in the top 3 most hated features all over KDE
software. So if we ask the question in
On Friday 07 December 2012 20:16:39 Marco Martin wrote:
I would like people to try to set up the thing, ie have qt5, build
frameworks and try to build the test app. This makes solving the issues
definitely faster :)
do we have a wiki page with pointers on how to setup all the bits (links to
On Saturday 24 November 2012 20:01:53 you wrote:
Product kscreensaver has a locker component.
with bugs going back to 2010 - that's exactly what I meant with I wouldn't
reuse the existing product/component as it's for the legacy locker which is
still available. I think it should be a dedicated
On Monday 02 July 2012 00:09:00 Michail Vourlakos wrote:
In a month I will upload
a video showing my current use case and from so far I havent noticed any
drawbacks with
Plasma::WindowEffects::showWindowThumbnails. I dont know what are the
issues but I havent
noticed any in my implementation
On Monday 02 July 2012 12:07:08 Michail Vourlakos wrote:
During the day I will upload a video showing the plasmoid in its
current development status
with window previews in the dashboard. If you want I can also upload a
second video
showing the use case you are describing for a proof of
On Monday 02 July 2012 16:02:35 Mark wrote:
On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 9:11 AM, Aaron J. Seigo ase...@kde.org wrote:
can we have this query changed so that it does not post every single day
to
the mailing list but perhaps do it just 1-2 times per week? i'd be happy
with once per week, tbh..
Hi all,
in case this mail appears twice, please excuse. It seems to me like
Akonadi ate my mail :-(
given that master is going to open soon, I have been thinking about
merging the Kickoff-QML branch to master. Most is done only minor
parts are missing except the classic menu.
Due to the fact
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